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SedanChair posted:Olbermann's comeback begins If the US does find itself under President Trump I think you could have Olbermann right before/after Maddow and Stewart alongside Colbert and still not run out of material.
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quote:It is not clear whether Mrs. Clinton clicked on the malware-infected messages. This is what we're down to? This?! I loving hope someday I'm popular enough that major news outlets are going to sifting through my spam folder pondering whether or not I really did buy that Cialis and Viagra.
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Oct 1, 2015 13:32
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Fried Chicken posted:Biden has announced he will not be participating in the Dem debate. Apparently it is news that a guy not running for president won't be in the presidential debate I think it's because they went through some extreme lengths to be able to allow Biden to join the debate if he wanted to.
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Oct 1, 2015 15:33
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Can I get that in pie chart form?
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Oct 1, 2015 16:27
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Well poo poo this is what people mean when they say that you can't just force the church to take a 180 on its positions overnight.
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Oct 2, 2015 14:19
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DarkCrawler posted:Ok this is the Second Amendment: You're not wrong, but unfortunately the Constitution never really got "updated" past a certain point so the country just stumbles along playing Semantic Hot Potato with the same words over and over and over despite the fact that the context behind the writing of these words is no longer relevant to modern day issues.
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Oct 2, 2015 14:25
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DarkCrawler posted:I've seen Barack Obama mad like three times and even then it was "strong disapproval" type of mad. I just don't think he's a very forceful person. I imagine he's aware that "being mad" would just play into the racist stereotypes that conservatives already have about him and so is trying to downplay that sort of thing as much as possible.
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Oct 2, 2015 14:43
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I don't think the MSF doctors are trained to be able to make a distinction between a bomb, a missile or a mortar. Their hospital got blown the hell up, and if you don't see contrails or other evidence of rocketry and you instead see/hear something that has the properties of a ballistic something (plus however distorted your account is by being in the middle of that chaotic situation), bomb is the descriptor you're probably going to reach for.
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Oct 5, 2015 14:55
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If the Pentagon is now saying that the request to bomb the site went through US command and control and not the Afghans talking to the AC 130 directly, that casts even more aspersions on the competence of the involved parties because that's exactly the sort of process you'd expect would prevent the US literally bombing a literal hospital.
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Oct 6, 2015 18:38
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Epic High Five posted:That new thread title There's your motive.
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Oct 7, 2015 01:00
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We've already gotten past the part where people are claiming that the US military wanted to bomb a hospital and kill doctors and patients because they wanted to. Surely it's an uncontroversial statement to say that "The MSF was not lying when it said it had informed all parties of their location. It is possible that that information did not get passed on to whoever approved of the airstrike, for any number of reasons. There is a measure of fault attributable to the people whose responsibility it was to inform the person who approved of the airstrike. If the person who approved of the airstrike already had that information on hand, but did not use it (also for any number of reasons), then there is a measure of fault attributable to them as well"
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Oct 7, 2015 04:46
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Zeroisanumber posted:Bystander opens fire on a shoplifter in a crowded parking lot in Auburn Hills, MI. Luckily, no one was hurt this time. The Detroit Free Press an exceedingly unfortunate domain name.
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Oct 7, 2015 17:03
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Riosan posted:Granted, I'm not the most educated guy on this subject, but wouldn't that just make it easier for hot lead to be pumped into me? I don't know about you, but I'm taking the opportunity to get the hell out of dodge while you losers try to bumrush the shooter.
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Oct 7, 2015 18:34
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Phone posted:I actually laughed out loud at the "The shooter can only shoot one person at a time, he cannot shoot a group of people" line. Well if it's true that they can only shoot one person at a time it's going to be because they're not using an automatic weapon and their magazines have less bu- ... oh ... OH
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Oct 7, 2015 18:57
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JeffersonClay posted:They think Obama got elected because he was black. Therefore if they run a black candidate, they can't lose. The corollary to this is that the Republicans don't dare impeach Obama either, because then they'd just be, unfairly mind you, called racists. And the logical conclusion to that is
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Oct 8, 2015 17:01
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Three Olives posted:Now the US is confirming that multiple Russian missiles landed in Iran. Christ. Why are we saying "landed"? Is it like that plot from Never Say Never Again?
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Oct 8, 2015 19:47
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Fojar38 posted:The Tea Party found out about his pegging fetish and blackmailed him with it. His what?
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Oct 9, 2015 03:50
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I feel like there's a contradiction between "we need guns to fight government tyranny, or else we're going to get genocided like the people in Germany" and "we need to throw out all of the illegal immigrants" I mean, wouldn't the immigrants think that was government tyranny, and shouldn't they be entitled to fight off the government with guns?
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Oct 9, 2015 10:48
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computer parts posted:So he's cribbing at least half of that from House of Cards. I actually binged on House of Cards season 3 a couple of weeks ago and it just felt so dated, what with LGBT rights still being a thing in its canon (I'm sorry if this sounds glib) and taking itself completely seriously compared to the insanity that is the Republican primaries.
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Oct 9, 2015 13:35
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I wonder what Reince Priebus must be feeling right now
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Oct 9, 2015 19:39
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meristem posted:Hmm? He could evolve. He's already evolved on BLM, didn't he? He could, but as far as I've ever heard from these parts, evolving is absolutely worse than having the correct opinion at the very outset.
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Oct 11, 2015 15:19
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ComradeCosmobot posted:You know who else had raw and sustained contempt for the press? Nixon was a good President, and I'm sure Hillary will also be.
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Oct 12, 2015 04:25
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greatn posted:I think with gun control laws people just need to get a handle on the fact that an inconvenience isn't a curtailing of your rights. I'm not really sure I'm comfortable with that statement in the context of what was done to abortion clinics in Texas. They just made it really inconvenient, to the tune of a couple hundred miles of driving, to get an abortion, but it's technically still legal to get one.
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Oct 12, 2015 15:31
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Lessig isn't making it to the Dem debates, is he?
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Oct 13, 2015 15:16
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Trabisnikof is implying that he's "mansplaining" to his women friends.
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Oct 14, 2015 12:04
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FAUXTON posted:Right, but that didn't stop anyone from pointing at those numbers as proof of Clinton being on the verge of collapse. I didn't get to watch the debate, but holy poo poo Jim Webb killed a guy?!
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Oct 14, 2015 14:12
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http://www.foia.cia.gov/collection/PDBs The CIA has released a collection of 2500 Presidential Briefing Products, starting from the very first one given to JFK on June 17 1961, all the way to 1969 under the Johnson administration.
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Oct 16, 2015 15:21
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Zeroisanumber posted:Stopping SSI payments would be a nasty surprise for the crusty olds who keep pulling the lever for Tea Party assholes because they think it'll hurt other people. Except they're not going to see it that way. The Republicans are already promising to spare everything EXCEPT Obamacare/Planned Parenthood/etc, but those thrice-damned Democrats are still being intransigent even after the GOP has already caved in by agreeing to fund 99% of the government. Their stubborn refusal just for that pithy 1% is proof of their inability to govern, and now it's hurting me personally by affecting my SSI payments, and they must be stopped.
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Oct 16, 2015 16:26
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Meatball posted:So what does that mean? Since that seems to be the situation were entering, are we in for some sort of major rearrangement of our government in the next few years? It's probably not going to change in the sense that the US will start calling itself something else or you'll have a Prime Minister now or something, but the current procedural rules in the legislature are going to have to give or die trying.
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Oct 16, 2015 16:50
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pathetic little tramp posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfkYfPNckIM "9/11? It was sometime in the 2000-something-or-other, quit asking me, sheesh" - Jeb Bush, probably, soon This loving election 
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Oct 16, 2015 19:43
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Khisanth Magus posted:I've never really understood the point of "force politician to the left/right", because all you are accomplishing is getting them to say certain things during their campaign, it doesn't actually change anything they believe or care about, so I don't really see Bernie "forcing Hillary to the left" as accomplishing jack or poo poo when she can(and probably will) just ignore the left once she is in office, no matter how much Bernie "forces her to the left" while campaigning. I mean, hell, Hillary becoming president will even more defang the actual liberals in this country, because it will prove that an actual liberal candidate cannot win the nomination against an establishment candidate and also prove that despite that fact we will be willing to vote for the establishment neo-liberal in the general. Not mine, but: Well, Edwards himself was an empty suit with a nice head of hair, but some of the words they put in his mouth were good. He was pretty good about actually talking about economic issues and rarely succumbed to the hyperbolic "we must be vigilant" hawktalk that plagues American foreign policy. His aides probably thought they were doing a good thing by shifting the debate a little to the left, whether or not he actually won. Rhetoric influences policy. If people see a Democrat talking like a liberal and getting votes, it changes what is considered politically possible. For decades, people were saying that Kennedy-style liberalism was dead, but Edwards proved that, despite all his real shortcomings as a candidate, the message he laid out still resonated with a lot of people. That's a lesson we can apply to Obama as well. Set aside for a moment all the things he has (or hasn't) actually accomplished as president and consider all the things he's said over the years. How many politicians could have given a speech like we saw [at Clementa Pinckney's funeral]? Effortlessly yet full-throatedly tying together numerous policy issues into a single narrative based on American tradition, liberal values, and Christian compassion? Some credit surely goes to his speechwriters, but in many ways this is a speech he's been giving for years, and it's hard to imagine it coming from anyone else. People in political circles tend to get lost in the talking points and wedge issues of the Washington news cycle and forget that, for most people, that's all just background noise. Even here in DnD, I'm regularly (and naively) surprised by how many people are utterly ignorant of current events and pressing political issues, and we're supposed to be the people who care about this stuff. If even we can't be relied upon to know, say, why people are opposing the Keystone pipeline, what "net neutrality" means, who the hell ISIL are, or what the Affordable Care Act actually does; if half of us are still parroting talking points from three (or thirty) years ago as if nothing has changed, then imagine how confused and disengaged the truly uninformed are. Anyone who can cut through the poisonous cloud of cynicism and disaffection that keeps so many people from meaningfully engaging in political life and actually gets them to think and care about their neighbors, their country, and their world, even for a moment, is a goddamn hero. If the message is timely, inspirational, and progressive, so much the better. And that's why our goddamn socialist, muslim, warmonger, terrorist-loving, sellout, lame duck, feckless, fascist president is a national treasure.
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Tatum Girlparts posted:Yea but there's a literal 'office of the first lady' that's a part of white house functions that's actually moderately important, so he'd have to alter that somehow regardless since you can't have 'office of the president' and 'office of the president'. He's called President Clinton but 'first lady' is an actual title with implications, so he's also...first gentleman I assume? Other Presidential Democracies that have had women presidents have used First Gentleman, but I don't see a reason why they couldn't buck that trend if they really wanted to.
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Oct 17, 2015 15:44
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ComradeCosmobot posted:Larry Lessig wants you to know that he's decided to be a bit more realistic about his run for the presidency. He is no longer campaigning on resigning after passing his agenda. What a sellout. How much more is he going to pander just to get that 1% polling eligibilty?
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Oct 18, 2015 01:38
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Jim Webb as Speaker. He was even a former Republican, so there's crossover appeal.
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Oct 19, 2015 03:57
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Isn't it the case that gerrymandering is a significant barrier to winning state-level offices even if the Democrats wanted to? Also, I'd question the utility of having more Democrats win downticket races if they're just there to fill the seat with a D.
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Oct 19, 2015 16:44
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Maarek posted:Some congressman and MSNBC are saying Biden is going to announce within the next 48 hours. Surely would make the primary more interesting. Any day now!!!
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Oct 19, 2015 16:47
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The Rebels actually do have guns, and they use them to fight against the tyranny of the Galactic Empire, but the conservative defenders of the 2nd Amendment are represented by the Imperial because
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Oct 20, 2015 17:43
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Cythereal posted:I had the WoW subforum open in another tab so I first read this post as talking about Hellfire Citadel's involvement with US politics. To be honest, that would probably be an improvement over the current state of affairs. Speaker Saurfang would not stand for the HFC's bullshit.
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Oct 21, 2015 10:50
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Were there signs that Biden had changed his mind about running for POTUS even before Beau passed? I mean, I get that people still keep saying he's going to run any day now well past the point of sensibility is because they need that horserace narrative, but that idea comes from the idea that Biden has wanted to become POTUS for a long time now and this is the closest he's gotten.
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Monkey Fracas posted:I'm starting to think that weirdo who suggested Dick Cheney for Speaker may have been on to something. Blood Runs Down House Of Representatives Walls As Chamber Itself Selects New Speaker
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