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Somehow, miraculously, we’ve survived the end of September with a government that is still, somehow, managing to function. But the ride of US politics never stops, and all signs point to it only being the calm before the storm later this year… Government shutdowns, GOP shenanigans, and, of course, Trump, all are sure to make it worth coming back to the USPOL thread. 114th Congress Bingo Card As ever in American politics, September came in like a lamb and went out like a lion, but only the 114th Congress could deliver the month that passed…
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Related threads "US Politics" is an incredibly broad topic, as A) the country is freaking huge and B) given our role in international events pretty much everything impacts us. So there are other subthreads 2016 Presidential Primary 2016 US Senate Elections SCOTUS thread Right Wing Media There are also regional subthreads that are usually pretty slow, but sometimes cross-pollinate with this thread when something important is happening. Pacific Northwest Illinois Texas California Lifted the rest of the above from FriedChicken. As before post suggestions for adding to the above and I'll edit them in if I see them. And remember folks, drink chat goes in D&D chat thread. Drink responsibly. Your liver will thank you. ComradeCosmobot fucked around with this message at 16:49 on Oct 1, 2015 |
# ¿ Oct 1, 2015 08:00 |
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# ¿ May 9, 2024 21:54 |
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fade5 posted:The next debate cuts off at 3%, and assuming polls stay consistent, those 6 are the only ones above 3%. So say hi to your top 6 Republican candidates: Trump, Carson, Fiorina, Cruz, Jeb!, and Rubio. CNBC said they'd round 2.5% up to 3, so you might as well call the criteria 2.5%. That would add Kasich and maybe Christie. Paul and Huckabee are on the bubble though.
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# ¿ Oct 1, 2015 17:29 |
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Can mods reopen the Gunthread and make talking about guns in any other thread a bannable offense? Asking for a friend.
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# ¿ Oct 1, 2015 20:56 |
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A Bag of Milk posted:Significant in what way? Significant in making it impossible to talk about anything else in this thread for several days. No room here to talk about Trump declaring he'll kill off NAFTA for example.
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# ¿ Oct 1, 2015 21:01 |
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Bob Ojeda posted:Okay, so what coherent, gun-knowledgeable ways are there to make it harder for people to murder 15 community college students Obligatory Onion link.
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# ¿ Oct 1, 2015 21:08 |
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zoux posted:Yeah but it feels like it's true. Truthiness is making a comeback, I'm telling you! Monkey Fracas posted:But if we ban them only criminals will have them and as a conceal carry proponent I *wet juicy fart* Speaking of concealed carry, there's a very interesting study on that that came out recently.
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# ¿ Oct 1, 2015 22:16 |
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We have 35 days.
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# ¿ Oct 1, 2015 23:17 |
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FourLeaf posted:Obama asking news organizations to make list of Americans who have died from terrorist attacks and then compare it to a list of Americans who have died from gun violence, so that it won't be seen as biased information coming from him. Instead it will be seen as biased information coming from the left-wing media!
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# ¿ Oct 1, 2015 23:32 |
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hhhat posted:Thread topic now less accurate I expected the title wouldn't last the month because something would happen. I just didn't expect it to happen in under 12 hours. Don't worry, we've still got the debt ceiling (Nov 5) and a proper omnibus budget (Dec 11) and two presidential nominee debates and House leadership elections this month, so it's still technically true!
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# ¿ Oct 2, 2015 00:25 |
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Stereotype posted:So can we stop talking about guns and instead discuss who is going to be the next House Majority Leader? No. Can't let things like the fact that the debt ceiling was moved up to Nov. 4 distract us from the real issues.
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# ¿ Oct 2, 2015 03:38 |
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Seattle plans to push for comprehensive public financing of local elections. Of course keeping private money out will be impossible thanks to Citizens United, but it could be interesting.
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# ¿ Oct 2, 2015 04:31 |
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From a few pages back, but it wouldn't surprise me. I didn't consider the details but things like the odd "religious liberty" question and phrasing it as a matter of "conscientious objection" sure seemed oddly timed and strangely misinformed about the whole Davis situation that I have been wondering if it was a setup by someone or other for political aims.
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# ¿ Oct 2, 2015 16:12 |
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hhhat posted:Here's where the comparison breaks down Didn't you know? If any measure taken to stop shootings that involves taking away gun rights isn't 100% successful, we must dismiss it as a bad idea.
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# ¿ Oct 2, 2015 18:05 |
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We didn't get to see Vester Flanagan's manifesto. Why would we get to see this one?
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# ¿ Oct 2, 2015 18:51 |
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Rhesus Pieces posted:Some journalists on Twitter are arguing that the "stuff happens" quote is being taken out of context and that everyone is freaking out that he equivocated shootings as just "stuff." Bullshit. Bush's context is that massacres happen and will continue to happen, and the government should just accept it if doing anything about it involves any sort of new regulations. More to the point, he doubled down on the quote later. If it was out of context, he should have clarified, not doubled down.
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# ¿ Oct 2, 2015 22:06 |
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DeusExMachinima posted:Where's the party that takes the (100% correct) "poo poo happens" attitude on guns, 18+ drinking, terrorism, drugs, police sobriety checkpoints, etc etc? I want to vote for that guy. Welcome to the Libertarian Party!
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# ¿ Oct 2, 2015 22:26 |
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MaxxBot posted:I used to consider myself a libertarian because I support that stuff but then I found out that 99% of libertarians don't give a gently caress about those issues, they just want low taxes and no business regulations. The problem is that government regulations are good when it comes to actually keeping us safe from predatory business practices and negative economic externalities. Libertarians refuse to acknowledge this distinction.
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# ¿ Oct 2, 2015 22:30 |
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Meat Recital posted:She said something like "at this point what difference does it make?" during a Benghazi hearing, and they trotted that line out for years trying to make her seem callous and indifferent. As recently as July 2: Rorus Raz posted:Mike Lester would like to take the time to remind you to vote for Bernie Sanders
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# ¿ Oct 2, 2015 23:07 |
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JehovahsWetness posted:Jeb, the might have a bit more punch *if you hadn't signed a pool fence bill as gov* (sponsored by DWS!): Please tell me that DWS will make a statement about this. If she does it might almost, almost justify her being DNC chair.
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# ¿ Oct 3, 2015 01:09 |
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Now that Walker's out, get ready to see a LOT more of Carly.
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# ¿ Oct 5, 2015 00:10 |
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Fojar38 posted:I find "US bombed a hospital for the hell of it" way harder to believe personally. The US bombed a wedding for the hell of it. Why not a hospital? Could be terrorists inside. You don't know! There are a lot of Afghans going in and out of that hospital, after all... Better bomb it to be sure! EDIT: In short, the US will give some reason like the one they gave that doesn't really hold up to scrutiny. But hey, it's an explanation!
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# ¿ Oct 5, 2015 07:31 |
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Hollismason posted:Is there anyway that the Democrats can mess with the Republicans over the Speaker vote on the 29th. This is mainly a question for Joementum In principle they could cast their votes for any Republican nominated if no one has a majority on the first ballot and force a winner, but if it's like the initial vote, it's a roll call vote, so Republicans would catch on pretty quickly and any Republican with a last name after, say, D, could change their vote before getting called on to prevent that from happening. In practice they'll let the Republicans stew and all vote for Pelosi except for a few Blue Dog holdouts (Dan Lipinski, a Blue Dog, is one of the usual suspects, and fellow Dogs Kyrsten Sinema, Gwen Graham and Jim Cooper also defected at the beginning of the 114th) ComradeCosmobot fucked around with this message at 23:54 on Oct 5, 2015 |
# ¿ Oct 5, 2015 23:52 |
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In which a major presidential candidate for a party that regularly bashes "useless" liberal arts degrees campaigns on the fact that they have a BA in Medieval History.
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# ¿ Oct 6, 2015 02:13 |
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FlamingLiberal posted:I see Jindal apparently has lots of free time to write his scorching hot takes about bad parenting. Well it's not like his donors are returning his calls at this point.
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# ¿ Oct 6, 2015 21:25 |
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Wouldn't Kissinger bombing Le Duc Tho count? Or does that not count because Nixon?
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# ¿ Oct 7, 2015 01:29 |
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GreyjoyBastard posted:Doctor Henry Kissinger Pbuh was not in the chain of command. If you're okay with bombing future Nobel prize winners, you could count Begin bombing the PLO (and, by proxy, Arafat) during the Lebanon War.
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# ¿ Oct 7, 2015 05:14 |
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Following the success of the House Permanent Select Committee on Benghazi, the House Permanent Select Committee on Planned Parenthood Atrocities should be authorized today.
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# ¿ Oct 7, 2015 18:14 |
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Your evening news roundup: Rupert Murdoch thinks it's time America elect a REAL black president. Looks like these shootings are good news... For gun dealers! And the Senate is moving to fast track a bill which would punish sanctuary cities by terminating all federal funding to such cities.
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# ¿ Oct 8, 2015 03:54 |
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Now that Walker is back in Wisconsin for good, Republicans there are looking to make sure he and other Republicans don't get recalled again by dismantling the non-partisan board responsible for calling the recall elections and investigating possible coordination between Walker's campaign and outside groups.
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# ¿ Oct 8, 2015 08:59 |
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An insight into the mind of @dick_nixon.
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# ¿ Oct 8, 2015 16:07 |
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Fifteen of Many posted:Jake Sherman just tweeted that McCarthy has dropped out of the speaker race. Given some of the recent rumblings I heard, it seems like there might have been some dirt that the Freedom Caucus or some other group was going to drop on him to ruin his chances anyway.
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# ¿ Oct 8, 2015 17:41 |
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Republicans might unravel Obama's Iran deal with this one weird trick! Ben Carson shows that even presidential candidates obey Godwin's Law. EDIT: Beaten on that second link.
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# ¿ Oct 9, 2015 04:02 |
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Monkey Fracas posted:Equitable redrawing of congressional districts following the census? This would help at least put a party willing to compromise in power. But given that I haven't heard anyone talking about a Democratic plan to retake the 15(!) states' legislatures (14 upper houses, 16 lower houses) that they've lost since Nov. 2010 I don't think this is happening until 2030 at the earliest. So hang on, because we probably have another 15 years of this shitshow (with almost certainly at least one Republican president in power) ahead of us. ComradeCosmobot fucked around with this message at 16:17 on Oct 9, 2015 |
# ¿ Oct 9, 2015 16:15 |
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Hollismason posted:Couldn't the House or is it the Senate redraw districts. i thought I had read somewhere that one of the powers of congress was to draw up districting maps. Nope! That power belongs to the states, and right now 31 states have fully Republican legislatures, so good luck pushing the needle. 27 were Democratic before the 2010 elections.
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# ¿ Oct 9, 2015 16:41 |
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evilweasel posted:These posts are sort of right but not really: Ah yes. I'd forgotten that old chestnut which came up during the Arizona redistributing case last term. Of course getting Congress to actually pass legislation relating to that is another matter entirely.
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# ¿ Oct 9, 2015 16:51 |
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Shifty Pony posted:It would take an absolutely insane situation for Congress to step in and override a state's redistricting. I don't even think a state abandoning popular voting for House members and having the state legislature selecting their reps would be enough to trigger it. That actually WOULD be unconstitutional, under Article I, Section 2: quote:The House of Representatives shall be composed of Members chosen every second Year by the People of the several States, and the Electors in each State shall have the Qualifications requisite for Electors of the most numerous Branch of the State Legislature. In other news: The ACLU intends to start doing something about the gently caress barrel, starting in Benton County, Washington. Rick Snyder's emergency managers are really helping the children of Flint!
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# ¿ Oct 9, 2015 17:27 |
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"Well..., you're going to have to get over [cuts to your Social Security benefits]." —John Kasich
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# ¿ Oct 9, 2015 21:30 |
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euphronius posted:How close are we to USAian and Russian troops shooting at each other. It feels like it's getting closer. Slate's lead article at the moment is about exactly this topic.
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# ¿ Oct 10, 2015 00:41 |
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Mother Jones just won a lawsuit defending against defamation charges stemming from a GOP bundler who wanted to hide his history of homophobia.
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# ¿ Oct 10, 2015 03:49 |
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Khisanth Magus posted:Not sure if this was posted, but the GOP committee on Planned Parenthood found no evidence of wrongdoing! Which is why, just like with Benghazi, they've opened a new committee to investigate the issue from scratch. One of these days, they'll crack that case open! It just FEELS like they're doing something illegal (they are liberals after all and liberals are always doing something illegal), so they'll just have to keep looking until they find out what that thing is!
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# ¿ Oct 10, 2015 18:00 |