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Excelsiortothemax posted:The best/worst part of this game is when the pack master grabs your team mate and starts pulling them away, while you have to then slowly wade through the horde of clan rats, cursing yourself for not saving one last goddamn bullet. Or when you're running across rooftops and an ogre & gatling gunner show up at the same time. A perfect storm and flawless victory. gently caress you Skaven.
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New game and all but pubbies are also really bad about basic stuff like sticking together. Because of how the game is focused on melee i don't think people are even trying to wrap their head around the block and push mechanics. Pushing could save your life in L4D but it's even doubly important here.
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Oct 6, 2015 02:13
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Marsh level in particular is just rage inducing with pubbies. It's big and open which means they can't even fight their urge to ignore the basic core gameplay component of sticking and moving with the loving team. Bright wizard is great though they could have explained the venting mechanic better in the tooltips. It hurts you, and I don't see a situation where you would absolutely have to trade health for a chance at more big fireballs.
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Oct 6, 2015 04:05
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2 goons on the mumble server trying to get a game going if anyone is interested
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Oct 7, 2015 00:33
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I've spent the most time playing bright wizard but waywatcher is probably my second favorite class followed by witch hunter. Only cute little banter I've noticed from bright wizard is some stuff with the Witch hunter. Something about being her jailer. So is there a steam grp up already?
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Oct 7, 2015 20:37
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Pierson posted:My one worry is the game won't ship with many levels and we won't see many as paid DLC either. Payday 2 maps are reasonably small, usually a bank or a building of some kind, L4D and Vermintide are long in comparison. It's shipping with 13 levels. Throw difficulty options and loot on top I think we'll be fine until (hopefully?) DLC starts trickling in.
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Oct 7, 2015 22:25
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Pulled the trigger on the pre-order so I'm ready to bathe in skaven blood. 
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Oct 9, 2015 20:45
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Gestalt Intellect posted:To be fair payday has the random cards for weapon mods but that problem has mostly been solved through the daily challenges, and also goonmod. It was loving brutal in those early days. Dropping a hundred hours into the game but only havent parts for 2 guns you use. No idea what items are gonna be like in this though. My only experience was with a BW staff and it sucked compared to the starting one.
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Oct 11, 2015 09:42
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I'm assuming this test is gonna run until the pre-order access starts friday?
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Oct 11, 2015 21:08
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set my matchmaking settings to world and found a game
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Oct 11, 2015 22:10
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Tiler Kiwi posted:Anyways for those that missed the super secret unintentional closed beta, here is all the gameplay stuff I noticed Will agree with a lot of this. The change to the horn assault definitely hurt. All the times I've done that withstand onslaught in previous beta without any problems but this one piled the bodies on for sure. Will say idk about weaker range though, My BW still felt like I was kill mostly trash mobs with one fireball. Didn't feel weaker but I definitely felt like overheat threshold was much higher. That said the bit I played of waywatcher my charged bow shots did feel weaker. One ratling gunner in particular felt like he was taking twice as many charged bows to the head than before. Only encountered one rat ogre and he spawned in that little nook on magnus tower as you cross the rooftops, right before you're inside again. He spawned in the inside as you would drop down. Scary loving sight truss.
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Oct 12, 2015 08:32
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Tiler Kiwi posted:counterpoint: this may dilute the role of the sackrat being the most rewarding and highest priority foe to kill and I will not have that I agree. Rat Ogres are only tough when you're on a roof or your teammates are dummies. Stay Calm & Don't Position Yourself In A Way To Get Thrown Off Roofs =( Tokubetsu fucked around with this message at 00:13 on Oct 13, 2015 |
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Oct 12, 2015 20:50
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Played with the knight/soldier guy for a bit and I might be better with him than bright wizard or waywatcher. Opted for the sword x shield instead of the hammer. I slaughtered all the skaven
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Oct 13, 2015 23:08
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Still haven't even attempted a difficulty above normal. I'll wait for retail and a group of goons first.
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Oct 15, 2015 01:14
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Dr. VooDoo posted:So I've heard rumblings that the Dwarf has like a secret ability to his shield shove that causes what amounts to a taunt for rats hit? Is that true? He does seem like the tank class I don't think it's a secret ability so much as each class/character having some unique utility to them that they don't telegraph in the tool tips.
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Oct 15, 2015 01:33
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DreamShipWrecked posted:I was referring to people doing that in the old beta that ended yesterday, that I believe they explicitly said would not carry over. This new preorder beta I have no idea, I guess it does carry over They've said, barring some catastrophic bug that needs to be fixed with a wipe, progress from this beta will carry over.
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Oct 16, 2015 20:32
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terrorist ambulance posted:Anyone got a cliffs notes on how this is different from L4D / what to do / where to go for someone who's just playing the beta for the first time Always stick with your group. If you're familiar with L4D you should already know this but given how this more of a melee centered game, it's a can be a lot more difficult to regroup/get saved if you separate. Block! Even blocking the rat ogre's swing! Pushing is super effective as well but know that it draws aggro. Unless you're playing a board and sword char (Dwarf or sgt) try to save it for when you need some breathing room only. Aim for head especially on specials If you play bright wizard you can cool down your overcharge by hitting the reload key but you will take damage. Depending on what FoV you set your game to, the range of your melee swings might be a little longer than you think Dodge! spacebar + direction
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Oct 16, 2015 20:49
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Bussamove posted:The inn rooms for each hero actually have a lot of cool little details in them. The dwarf appears to be slowly replacing the boards covering his windows with bricks. Good, solid dwarven engineering. Yeah I noticed the touches too. Wizard jas scorch marks all over hers and the waywatcher prefers to sleep on the floor and put up flowers on the ceiling. terrorist ambulance posted:Bright wizards are pretty fun. As far as I can tell, you build up charge with each spell, and vent it with R. The small area in the middle of the meter is "free" charge; once you hit the notches on the overcharge, you take damage while venting. If you max out your charge, it vents automatically and you take lots of damage. IIRC, some goon said the higher or highest difficulty has friendly fire
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Oct 16, 2015 23:47
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The AoE fire summon on the BW is amazing. I am incredibly effecient at lighting everything on fire now.
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Oct 17, 2015 01:59
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Drakenel posted:Really? We were having trouble with Supply and Demand until we treated it like Payday 2 and kept tossing the bags along and fighting instead of trying to escort somebody. Yeah Magnus Tower is a cake walk for every grp I've been in (pubs included) compared to Supply & Demand. Not too surprised though because it's massive and sorta open. Something similar was happening on that forest map from the last beta. Ppl just seem to have a hard time not wandering off and sticking together on those bigger arenas. Side Note: Did hard for the first time tonight and it's mostly fine save a ratogre fight with pubbies that felt like it took ten minutes.
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Oct 17, 2015 06:34
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Just having a hard time picturing nightmare+ with pubs seeing as how I still have drops and derp wanderings on hard and normal.
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Oct 17, 2015 09:21
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Hardest part about Supply & Demand is that it feels much longer than it really is. By time you hit the sacks it feels like you've already killed an entire continent's worth of skaven.
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Oct 17, 2015 23:05
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Dezztroy posted:Waywatchers that only use their bow are bad players. Same with Wizards that only use their staff. When you're killing trash with one hit kills and do great AoE why wouldn't you use the staff 85% of the time? I only switch off when I'm in overcharge and theres still too many dudes on screen. Which usually means its a horde and I can safely chokepoint murder with heavy sword swings.
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Oct 18, 2015 01:07
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Conflagration staff and fire sword I never want to play anything but bright wizard.
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Oct 18, 2015 22:13
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How do i get gud with waywatcher? My bow doesnt 1 hit slaves on hard =( BW is so much easier...
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Oct 19, 2015 04:26
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Junkie Disease posted:So at release is it going to look better then a hl2 mod? When was the last time you played or saw Half Life 2?
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Oct 19, 2015 06:38
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Dezztroy posted:Packmasters are pretty easy to hear as their skulls or whatever make a distinct jingle (jangle) when they're running. They're a bit harder to notice though since compared to the other tells it's a lot more subtle. Couple that with how they tend to come during hordes means they're easily the most deadly special at the moment when you play on higher difficulties. Best way to deal if they catch someone mid massive horde is...just let him lynch your buddy. If the 3 of you can survive then cool but trying to force your way through the tide is just gonna put your team in a worst position. Vermintide: Hooker got your buddy 'round a corner? gently caress it
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Oct 19, 2015 07:57
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The way to win with pubs is conflagration staff with flame sword.
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Apeshit Sixfingers posted:Just finished up a normal horn run, and I don't know what the hell just happened. Me (dwarf) and the mage were carrying grimoires, along with tomes, and we were on the rooftops by the first house on the left that you can enter. All of a sudden the mage goes flying off screen and dies instantly, which was surprising since he was inside the house... Cheesing on normal. Everyone sees your shame.
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Oct 19, 2015 09:26
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Pubbies can't even do Supply & Demand on normal it's amazing. Even when you take a second to explain what needs to happen at the final part they still find amazing ways to poo poo the bed and not stick together.
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Oct 19, 2015 21:29
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Doing horn legit by holding the staircase is fun and awesome. It's sad so many ppl didn't get to experience skaven corpses piled dwarf high as your shield bro pushes and swings madly.
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Lassitude posted:I'd like to see other enemy types as mini-events. So, like, randomly off to the side maybe you'll see a vampire with some zombies (or a necromancer, or whatever) fighting some skaven. You can ignore them, or beat their rear end for some loot. Or maybe some maps have a greenskin raiding party that shows up and attacks you/the skaven. Or maybe there are some Chaos cultists in the sewers one time. Either way there are a lot of ways they can throw in some new enemies without making a totally new game. But yeah, I'd love to see it expanded to have different enemy types with different behaviours. They could do it classic Killing Floor style where during holidays and steam sales you have some changes. Halloween? Special map with vampires and special loot. Christmas? New map and orcs etc.
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Oct 20, 2015 23:25
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BombiTheZombie posted:This is something that i keep getting annoyed at. A Bright Wizard is an officially trained and schooled spellcaster from the Bright College in Altdorf, she has the regalia of a battle wizard. Saltzpyre shouldnt have any problems with her and has no right or jurisdiction to keep her from her business. Unless Saltzpyre is a curmudgeonly fart that hates all magic. Which he is. She has been accused of burning a mill with some lord's son inside which is why he arrested her.
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Dr. VooDoo posted:Given how badly the idea of a cage freaks the elf out I'm guessing she's had a run in with Dark Elfs I figured that was just a wood elf thing but her backstory definitely lacking right now compared to the other characters.
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frajaq posted:So just started playing this and i'm enjoying playing the Soldier with sword+shield. What are other good starter choices and what weapons/class should I avoid? Anyone but waywatcher
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ToiletDuckie posted:Sometimes, random groups are confusing. I join Wizard's Tower for the first time with some people higher level than I am. My first thought is "Man, they know what they're doing. Grouped together, moving quick, leaving me behind almost! This is great!". We even wipe out a Rat Ogre with practically no damage taken. My only source of suspicion is that it's on Normal and they're all half life or less when I joined mid-match. I've kinda encountered similar groups today too. Pros when it comes to specials but let some horde scragglers flank them, or say 2 stormvermin show up and it's a wipe. I've had more resets today on normal magus tower than anything I've done on hard so far.
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Oct 22, 2015 02:26
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Only thing guaranteed to tank performance for me right now is the witch hunters pistol. If I end up right next to one while he's firing its guaranteed single digit. Disappears as soon as I turn around or look in another direction.
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Oct 22, 2015 06:18
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gently caress the elf, etc but daggers aren't that bad, you just have to be decent with the dodge and quick blocking. Stick and move. Really good for stormvermin and getting stuff that gets through your shieldbros during a horde. Helps that my daggers have 10% chance to heal and like 40% chance for push to not cost stamina. Like everything save the swiftbow and hagbow just  gently caress the elf
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Rayjenkins posted:Yeah, if I'm playing with a coordinated group, I'm usually leaps and bounds ahead on a lot of damage metrics. It probably helps that I have a blue Beam Staff with regrowth and knockback as well as a blue flaming sword with regrowth and berserking though. I just tried nightmare for the first time and this changes once you have to worry about friendly fire. Too scared of killin my bros I couldn't really let everything burn.
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TacMan posted:learn to aim, use your sword more, and use the conflagaration staff; it causes no team damage with the alt fire. gently caress yes the conflag staff is my favorite anyway
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