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Sergeant_Crunch posted:This game looks sweet as hell. I'm glad they didn't go with orcs or some sort of zombie stand in, the Skaven seem really unique and they give the game a really cool aesthetic. God I hope I can afford something that can run this when it comes out. Skaven are great because they're one of the few really unique things in Warhammer. Everything else is cribbed at least partially from some other setting, but "insane backstabbing mad scientist rat men who react to uranium like it's PCP and cocaine at the same time" is pretty novel.
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Rorus Raz posted:I'm pretty skeptical since GW's attitude these days seems to be throwing their IP at seemingly random companies. On the one hand you may have something cool like the Total War spinoff, but on the other hand there's a ton of Warhammer Fantasy/40k shovelware out there. They've made a bunch of ok-but-not-incredible games, but in terms of shooters they did make Lead and Gold, which I thought was a pretty cool shooter that really only failed because it came out around the same time that TF2 went F2P. Knightmare posted:I caught a few streamers playing this last week and it looks really good, plus it's $30 so it's hard to say no. I know nothing about Warhammer but hitting rats in the face with a hammer looks fun. Not just rats. Insane mad scientist rats who have invented gatling guns and death rays* in a setting where very few other groups have advanced beyond flintlock pistols.  *note: skaven technology tends to backfire 
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So how long are missions in this, and - related - is there any kind of respawning mechanic? I don't look forward to playing this with pubbies if missions are 15+ minutes long and there's no way to get back people who
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Oct 6, 2015 00:56
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Brackhar posted:As for respawning, if someone dies then they will eventually show up again further along in the map tied up on the ground, similar to L4D rescue closest but without the empty rooms built into the level. Thank christ, that was the thing that always killed my interest in highest-difficulty L4D2 - there'd always be that One Guy who'd commit suicide by placing their head directly into a zombie's mouth and then you're hosed (because on the highest difficulty in L4D2 people don't respawn)
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Oct 6, 2015 01:38
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Tokubetsu posted:
ftfy. Get good at carrying; playing any team-based game is an exercise in dragging your teammates kicking and screaming to victory.
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Oct 6, 2015 02:16
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Tiler Kiwi posted:i like how all the characters hate each other warhammer.txt e: alternately, replace "characters" with "players", online_team_game.txt e2: really this is 100% appropriate, the dev knows their audience 
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Oct 6, 2015 03:20
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It occurs to me that I haven't really seen any representation from clan Pestilens in this. There's four major skaven clans - Eshin (assassins, gutter runners), Moulder (packmasters, rat ogres), Skrye (, guns), but I haven't seen anything from Pestilens, who usually handle A) Biological/chemical warfare, and B) plague monks, who are basically anthropomorphic chainsaws. Are they in this and I just missed them?
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Oct 7, 2015 03:31
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Skandranon posted:I think I saw in one of the Tips it mention the name of the specific clan that is attacking Ubersriek. Don't remember the name, but it wasn't the big 4. They may have created a "Skaven Undivided" type clan to allow for having both rat ogres, globe throwers, and gutter runners all at once. Typically other clans will rent out their services, plus part of the end times is that the skaven leaders finally got their poo poo together and managed to get them working cohesively together instead of their usual relentless squabbling and infighting.
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Oct 7, 2015 03:37
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Tiler Kiwi posted:i was playing the dwarf and chucked a grenade so badly it flew off and hit nothing, and the fire mage told me that took real skill to hit nothing at all.  quote:e: you will also be yelled at for jumping too much  Skandranon posted:The story goes, the Witch Hunter has arrested Bright Wizard and is escorting her somewhere, and has hired Marcus to help. They are in their way through Ubersriek when poo poo hit the fan. Also, there is an elf and dwarf. The dwarf would probably be involved because they loving hate skaven (they both live underground, dwarves love heavy armor and the skaven invented chemical weapons to deal with them). The elf, who loving cares about pansy-rear end elves man
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Oct 7, 2015 21:02
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Tiler Kiwi posted:also stormvermin have got some funny voices They might be the biggest and meanest members of the species, but they're still <5 foot tall rats with squeaky voices.
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Oct 16, 2015 04:44
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Malek posted:Just tried this game and it really feels to me like a skinned over L4D with a less optimized graphics engine and a grindy inventory system. Even more disappointing to hear that the levels don't really do much. Since the whole "Payday 2 CS:GO gun skins transactions" thingy I was hopeful. In addition to what everyone else said, there's also a scaling in-mission difficulty thing where there are hidden items you can grab that take up inventory space and/or debuff your team but which make you get better loot, meaning if you're running into a "difficulty x is too easy, difficulty x+1 is too hard" thing you have access to an intermediary step.
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Oct 17, 2015 21:30
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Demiurge4 posted:What's the trick to taking down rat ogres though? Block and dodge. If you have full stamina (the shields when you're blocking) and are blocking his attacks will take all of your stamina but not hurt you. The dodge will help fill the gap while you're waiting to recharge stamina. President Ark fucked around with this message at 22:35 on Oct 17, 2015 |
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Oct 17, 2015 22:31
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I think the real problem with them is that they'd be much more limited in where they can spawn - you can have a rat ogre or a stormvermin patrol basically anywhere, but the doomwheel wouldn't make much sense anywhere except wide-open areas like the big plaza after the gate event on Horn of Magnus and the bell's even larger.
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Oct 18, 2015 20:44
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It's also fairly trivial to kill hunters once they've landed on someone, whereas gutter runners will disappear only to tackle someone else ten seconds later if you don't do something that kills them instantly. e: there's also no moment more  inducing than being on a ledge, looking down, seeing a gutter runner in the street below you, and writing him off as a non-immediate threat only for him to launch himself at you like a furry ballistic missile.
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Oct 18, 2015 21:15
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In regards to both "how do I get good with sword and board" and "gently caress packmasters  ": The handgun for the dwarf/soldier does a shitload of damage. I'm only up to hard but it's still instakilling everything except armored enemies and rat ogres on bodyshots and instakilling armored enemies on headshots. It's also really accurate.e: Also, just for fun, that isn't just a hook they're getting you with, it's a hook with spikes in the middle so that if you struggle it tears your throat out. It's surprisingly hard to get a good image of those things but this guy is holding one.
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Oct 18, 2015 22:56
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i've never hit 100% (or seen anyone hit 100%) outside of the inn - does that kill you or does it just knock you out/deal a fuckload of damage to you
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Oct 19, 2015 00:18
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DatonKallandor posted:You can look at things with Z. Look at things with Z. Especially the Grimoire. It looks back at you.  Also look at the potions, because they have old-timey ad copy on them. The healing potion says something like "Take this when you're seeing the spirits of the dead".
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Oct 19, 2015 02:40
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Drythe posted:Also if you have a lull low hp and have a healing item. Overheat, kill yourself, and have a teammate get you up. Having someone pick you up sets you at 50% and if you heal after you usually end up at max hp The medkit works like L4D ones and just does 80% of your missing HP. The healing potion, on the other hand, is always 30% of your maximum... except it also converts the grey HP you get after being revived into permanent HP. 
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Oct 19, 2015 03:19
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I'd be down with some more nonhuman characters but they should probably stick to as few of the "evil" races (vampires, orcs, dark elves, etc) as possible to minimize confusion.
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Oct 19, 2015 04:22
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Mordja posted:How does shield-bash aggro work exactly? Does it only affect rats that get hit or is it in an area? I have to imagine it's rats you hit, because otherwise you could hypothetically shieldbash a wall and make a rat next to you get pissed off at you.
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Oct 19, 2015 04:24
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Fans posted:Supply and Demand has Tomes and Grimoires, so you can get better loot rolls from it. Where are they? I've found two tomes (one immediately after the grain silo, the other right before the resupply room before the end - in a nook in the back of the cesspit) but not the third tome and no grimoires.
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Oct 19, 2015 16:26
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Dravs posted:When you start looking at some of the decisions GW has made in general it's not surprising at all. It's like they're allergic to money. They do no market research. This isn't a "I'm a follower of the company and annoyed at their business decisions so I'm gonna make absurd hyperbolic statements about them" thing, they have literally stated that not only do they not do market research, they think they don't need to and that they "tell the market what it wants". They've also stated that they think having multiple different products for the same setting* leads to them "competing against themselves" which is why they're so allergic to spinoffs and video game properties and so on instead of tapping different parts of the market and that video games (or possibly just Pokemon - you know, nintendo's biggest moneymaker) is/are a passing fad. They also have no idea how to run an online presence. Essentially, their leadership is stuck in the 80s. *it's speculated this is precisely why they have so many video game tie-ins coming out for warhammer fantasy right when they decided to nuke the setting - since the setting no longer exists, video games in that setting aren't competing against the tabletop stuff anymore!  Jimbot posted:Kind of wish they'd remove the bits that prevent you from going backwards on the map. More than one occasion we had a member get caught by that one rat guy and pulled away practically as they were moving off that fall or ramp or whatever have you. Since the rest of the team was already off it, they couldn't do anything to save the person. Those two elements don't gel well together. Those were all over the place in Left 4 Dead as well. They serve a couple important purposes - regularly gating the level so that you're not tempted to backtrack and pick up the healthkit at the start of the level, and making sure you're sticking together both in a broad sense and progressing through the level in a group instead of everyone running at their own pace. e: plus in versus (which normally favored the survivors heavily) they act as points that give the enemy team a temporary advantage by making the survivors slow down to make sure they all go together, which gives more time to spawn, and if you play your cards right/the survivors have a guy who lags behind for whatever reason it's an easy kill. President Ark fucked around with this message at 17:47 on Oct 19, 2015 |
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I kinda figured that there was something in the lumbermill just because it was this side area with what appeared to be half of a jumping puzzle we could see; we were just never able to figure out how to proceed on it. Never had any idea about the other grimoire but looking at the video there's these obvious walkway planks so now that I know that those are used I know to look for them when secret hunting in the future.
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Dazh posted:Why even do the sewer ever much less grind it? No tomes, no grimoires, no thank you. I've had a good handful of competent pub groups by doing hard mode horn level runs. It's faster and has less chances to gently caress up than the other two maps. Sure each completion might give you lower-quality loot, but you might be looking at 2-3x as many completions with a solid group or way more if you factor in wipes and resets.
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Al Borland posted:Picking this up, Not yet, but they've stated that not all of the specials are in beta, so it's possible they're in the main game. Of course, having played this, I do not look forward to having to deal with rats with flamethrowers. e: or sniper rifles, black hole grenades, cyborg rat ogres, death ray cannons, or any of the other insane poo poo they have President Ark fucked around with this message at 02:22 on Oct 20, 2015 |
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Metrohunter posted:Does the dwarf ever eventually get the same rifle that the soldier gets? It's literally the only thing keeping me from playing dwarf 24/7 right now. if you mean the single-shot long-range handgun, yes, he gets that
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give the orc and dwarf a special revive animation where instead of picking them up they kick them until they stand back up
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Oct 21, 2015 05:42
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Al Borland posted:skaven were great. DId they ruin skaven too? They ruined all the old armies. But on the plus side, Skaven have an unavoidable, unpreventable turn 1 win!
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Improbable Lobster posted:Rebellious Teen Skaven as playable hero more like "rebellious skaven toddler"; most skaven are really, really young and are lucky to live to 20. queek head-taker, one of the skaven unique characters and a really bloothirsty warlord type, is four.
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Oct 21, 2015 20:58
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sirtommygunn posted:You gotta stab them in their face or shoot them in the head. Anything else bounces off. power attacks also work
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BombiTheZombie posted:Right, the spawning issue has gone way too far. Just did a Supply and Demand mission where we get a Rat Ogre, a stormvermin patrol and two packmasters along with a horde before we even make it to the apothecary. On the retry, we get a rat ogre and a globadier/gunner combo and a horde. We beat em just barely and proceed to the grain carrying part when another rat ogre spawns along with a packmaster, horde and assassin. I have literally never seen the poo poo you're describing, let alone at the start of levels. What the gently caress difficulty are you playing on, cataclysm? 
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DeadFatDuckFat posted:Anyone know if there's a maximum amount of stamina you can have on a weapon? Like if I get a shield with a +2 stamina trait, will it actually only add 1? each shield icon is two points of stamina, a "half point" is a cracked shield
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Musluk posted:There REALLY should be a button that makes your character say "Shut up elf". 
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Musluk posted:There REALLY should be a button that makes your character say "Shut up elf". thinking about it more, that should be a button in literally every game with elves in them, tbh
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Stringbean posted:One of my favorite things in this game is the Inn rooms. The dwarf has food and empty steins all over the place, the elf has dried herbs hanging from the ceiling, bright wizard has scorch marks all over her room, witch hunter has marks and writs all over his wall. They're all neat. also the dwarf has pulled off some of the planks on his window and is replacing them with bricks
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SlyFrog posted:How robust is this? I'm basically wondering about replayability, and whether it will be a game with legs. Each character has ~5 distinct items per slot and the base stats on them are always the same (but scale with rarity, i.e. a blue item is flat-out better baseline than a green item). They each have 1-3 properties which are semirandom (each weapon/character has a pool it can choose from) but they're mostly special buffs like "5% chance to heal when you hit with this"'; there are very few "this item just has 10% more damage"-type enchants.
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Perestroika posted:Goddamn, the axe for the witch hunter sure feels like hot garbage. Too bad I accidentally forged away any alternatives, so now I'm stuck with that+crossbow until I happen upon something better It's armor piercing.  Also has a tendency to make skaven's heads pop off like champagne corks on power attacks. vvv Bolt staffs are good if you get an enchant that procs on hit because it fires so dang fast. President Ark fucked around with this message at 18:26 on Oct 25, 2015 |
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victrix posted:Does crouch serve any purpose? Slightly tightens accuracy on your ranged weapons, which is mostly relevant if you're trying to be accurate with something you can't aim with (mostly Saltzpyre's brace of pistols) ChickenHeart posted:Preview of the upcoming DLC where Kruber attempts to stop the destruction of the world by taking the fight to the chaos moon itself Hang on, fixing this. Here we go, much better. President Ark fucked around with this message at 04:21 on Oct 26, 2015 |
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Demiurge4 posted:I have been having some really bad lag issues with the game. My FPS and performance is fine but I get teleporting rats all over the place. I suspect this has something to do with me being in Iceland and playing with US Goons but I feel like it should not be this bad. It seems to happen in waves too, I get a few second of perfect performance, then I apparently desync and mobs fly all over the place. Any ways to mitigate this? Host games and see if it stops. Yes: You're probably hosed unless they do some netcode optimization. No: There's something wrong with your computer. quote:1) A lot of folks say Witch Hunters are very good at deal with swarms. What weapon combinations allow them to pull this off? Unloading with the brace of pistols is a great "oh poo poo" button.
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