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Quinton posted:Coincidentally, two days ago I *finally* sat down and read KSBD and cannot believe I have been missing out on such an amazing thing for so long now. Good timing that you read it just after the polish up and insertion of more exposition into the early chapters. It used to be a bit more confusing and overwhelming.
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Guitar_Hero posted:Oh wait, did that actually get done? Time to go and re-read! It certainly got started - there's new pages in there and old pages changed. I assume it's completed.
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Woah, so she doesn't have Earth's key, she has the loving skeleton key. This is way more disruptive than we thought. Also, so he massacred the prime angels in the void after he broke their bodies? Does that mean they're dead-dead? What about 2-Michael, wasn't he a prime? Was he the only survivor? ...was he a coward? Did he run? MikeJF fucked around with this message at 06:11 on Oct 10, 2015 |
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Roland Jones posted:At the least, he's trying to get the key to Zaid (despite possibly being the one who killed Zoss when he was handing the key over; as others have said, the Thorn Knight that struck Zoss down does look a lot like him, though it also had the wrong sort of steed), and he probably has a reason for that. Huh, went back and read that bit. I reckon they followed Zoss because they knew he'd be going to the successor and they assumed it was Zaid just because of pronouns. Maybe they were trying to force the succession prophecy to accelerate. I wonder how they got through to Earth? Can they follow through Zoss's gate? Or did they have the alliance of whichever of the Seven has the Earth key? Muttom, right? Okay probably not then. MikeJF fucked around with this message at 10:46 on Oct 12, 2015 |
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Oxxidation posted:Mathangi Maya Mantra Murder the Gods and Topple Their Thrones. I dunno, 82 White Chain Born Into Emptiness Returns To Subdue Evil fits pretty well.  That lead me on to nutting out a bit of geography. So the void manifests itself as basically a broken, eroded copy of the real world, right?  This scene was in the void, was it? Because Allison is there in black skin mode. So the demiurges enter the void fully for their meetings? For security? So is it the top of this tower here:  And we just don't see the rest of the red city around them because of the void's eroded incomplete effect? Also, back to the mandala showing the universe:  So you've got throne in the middle, obviously, and the four orders of angels. Then the worlds surrounding come in pairs; of each pair, one has a sun and is presumably man's world, the real, and the other has either angels or devils, alternatingly. So I guess that's the void below each world? And for some reason angels and devils alternate. That seem a reasonable interpretation? And throne's void doesn't get shown because, well, art. (Or maybe it does; there's a faint ring around the red city that might be meant to separate it from where the angels are). Or possibly there's just one contiguous void under all worlds, and the alternating angels-demons is just artistic. I have no idea if the placement of the flames have meanings. Also, Mottom's palace is show in the map of Throne (on the ground) but it's totally different from the palace Allison was shown floating above her in the Void. Does she have one on Throne and one in the Void? MikeJF fucked around with this message at 16:13 on Oct 12, 2015 |
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What're the sins again? Mottom's Greed, Jadis is Sloth, Jagganoth is Wrath, Mammon is Greed, Wormface is Envy, Solomon is Pride and Incubus is Lust? I wouldn't be surprised if she ends up making a deal with one of them (and being quickly betrayed). Solomon seems the most reasonable and relatable so far, not to mention visibly the least horrifying, so I could see her getting fooled into that before he ends up being just as awful as the others. MikeJF fucked around with this message at 18:27 on Oct 12, 2015 |
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Cryophage posted:Wasn't there only three orders of angels? (Roots, Petals, Thorns) Oh yeah, I was getting mixed up with the four orders of knights.
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paranoid randroid posted:well, it was kind of a bushwhack. I think he's dead but if you have enough will you can hold yourself together in the void for a while after you die.
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Spiderdrake posted:I think that Michael as the only reincarnated prime hints at some deeper issue within the angels, and your guess is good, but who knows. I like my theory that Michael, once in the Void, fled, while the other primes stood their ground. And as the only surviving prime he's been a really lovely leader.
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Oct 22, 2015 16:15
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Roland Jones posted:He's definitely not meant to inspire affection or admiration in the readers, and seems like a real rear end in a top hat overall. To be fair, this describes most angels besides White Chain. Except 10 Vigilant Gaze. I like him. I hope we see more of him. He's a cool bro.
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Roland Jones posted:I don't know; Juggernaut Star's armor (that's him striking off Zoss's head) matches his form in the Void rather well. Extremely well, really; I think it's meant to be pretty clear that his body is shaped to fit inside of his armor. Which raises the question of what's going on with all these other Thorn Knights because none of the ones we've seen the armor of were missing their heads. They're not 100% uniform (one even has a floating ring where its head would be), either. It's strange, to say the least. Is Juggernaut Star unique amongst the Thorn Knights, or is there something special/weird about these headless guys? Perhaps they've shaped themselves into headlessness as part of becoming fanatic royal guards in particular.
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Begemot posted:Or because she's a college student. She may be a college student, but she's a total nerd.
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DarkCrawler posted:Total nerds still drink in college. Oh yeah, I've met engineers.
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Roland Jones posted:I'm not sure, but it also raises another question: Why is Cio so much bigger than every other "imp"? They're all pretty small, while she, though not big, is human-sized. Maybe they can control their upgrades and she likes being a big blue rather than a small red.
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Nov 1, 2015 01:28
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You can just hear them roaring that last big group verse especially.
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Yeah, I guess she might've been knocked down deliberately as punishment. Although you'd think they'd just kill her.
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Thesaurasaurus posted:...uh-oh. Now everyone there knows Allison has a Key of Kings and not a leystone She's about to either lose it or get an Ebon devil as an escort, I dunno it matters.
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I vote for juvenile and humiliating. Buttface McGee.
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nimby posted:So I'm guessing Princess is now too weak and degraded to actually do what Allison needed in the first place. Guess Cio gets her training montage wish before they confront all the big players. i was wondering about that, if it might've been better to leave him (is it still him?) at green or something I wonder if alison could promote cio easily too MikeJF fucked around with this message at 09:46 on Nov 28, 2015 |
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A.o.D. posted:Okay, so here's what that page tells me in the way of new info: Cio was a black, and probably gained a bunch of names in the process of stealing a key of kings. Or maybe to hide afterwards.
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Phy posted:Needs accent aigues to make it pop, but you're right. Ciocié Cioellé. Holy o'gently caress. Wait, where'd that come from. She says it's Cio Cioelle. Estrella von Maximus The Third?
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The Mentalizer posted:Or perhaps she doesn't necessarily want the power Oh narratively I think there's no way she's after the key out of greed like the others.
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paranoid randroid posted:Solomon David is my favorite demiurge b/c all the others we have seen are these grotesque weirdos — and lets be real, theres no way a guy called "Incubus" isnt also going to be mondo grody — and David is just this haughty guy in a chair. Solomon David is going to turn out to be the mondo grodiest of all in every way except his looks, just you wait. And he'll keep his looks by wearing the skin of virgins or something too.
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I wonder how... did the gate we saw in Throne lead to the Void, rather than one of the worlds? Do people normally have to go through the void to move from Throne to a Universe? Allison's zapped directly from Earth to Throne and back again without landing voidwise before.
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The Mentalizer posted:Don't forget the bus that White Chain and Allison took to Hell 71 was just a giant reanimated corpse. I wonder about the big flying ship we saw gating out in Throne.
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Incubus still thinks that she's going to give the key to Zaid, though.
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Doesn't look like the fruit grow there any more. Surprised she hasn't dropped this world and started going to one she hasn't ruined yet instead. If there are any.
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A Wizard of Goatse posted:yeah the impression I get is everything's all medieval-style not because they're super backwards compared to us but because they use magic and slaves to do everything we do with machines better so why bother True, though it always bugs me when you have a setting that claims this but then their rich and powerful don't actually seem to have better things and creature comforts than us in lots of smaller areas. Does Mottom's bed have magical memory foam? We'll see.
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Ixjuvin posted:I like that one of those Angels is just a floating hedron with a halo. Who can even be bothered to manifest anymore And his name is just '12 Questioning Fate'. He's clearly just generally meh about existence in general. MikeJF fucked around with this message at 08:13 on Jan 27, 2016 |
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So everyone's going to be calling White Chain crazy now, right?IUG posted:191162 Add UserID to Ignore List Everyone else keeps responding to him whichever thread he starts making GBS threads in, though. He's like some kind of horrible nerdier Irish Joe.
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December Octopodes posted:Her body didn't crack though, so I think the thorn knights are maybe the closest they've come to madness before. The question here is if her soul is going to resist the thorny impulses that are at the very least on her mind. I meant more crazy at her claim that Metatron lives. I assume they'll all shake their heads and disbelieve.
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Tollymain posted:it's interesting to me that despite hating the usurping inhabitants of throne and their kinds in general, the thorns we've seen so far all look a lot more like humans and servants than the average angel Mmm, but their leader Metatron is totally beautifically humanlike.
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Captain Redbeard posted:I like Comrade Gorbash's idea about names, and it would imply that Michael was never slain in the void, which might explain why he was able to reincarnate sooner. Because he ran away like a wuss. 
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Renaissance Robot posted:I should point out I'm not actually arguing that, or the other thing. I'm trying to wrap my head around Michael's point of view, because what even is sexism when you don't have sex? Idolising UN over YIS is all I can think of. I think in this case it's that they decided to use 'he' as their neutral term in English. For White Chain to have a desire to use something else implies actual gender, which he is very grumpy about.
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Guessing White Chain is about to become a petal knight, albeit for a different reason than most.
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I hope she's going to say yes but has no plans to actually do what they want in the end.
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I think I visited there once.
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wiegieman posted:Notice how all the soldiery look like 18th century colonial powers and not the weird medieval mishmash of Throne. And the architecture is straight-up Mughal India; Throne tilts that way very heavily, but this is basically direct.
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