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TEAYCHES posted:waiting patiently in texas, hope its sooner rather than later Don't wait, organize!
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Sebadoh Gigante posted:Which reminds me, I can't really recall Bernie making a concerted effort to court latinos the way he has with college students and black voters. For example he doesn't seem to mention immigration in his stump speeches. Latinos are overwhelmingly working class and exploited, his economic message is exactly what matters to Latinos he doesn't need to pander by talking about immigration because most Latino voters care more about their wages than they do about letting in some immigrants
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Commie NedFlanders posted:Latinos are overwhelmingly working class and exploited, his economic message is exactly what matters to Latinos he doesn't need to pander by talking about immigration because most Latino voters care more about their wages than they do about letting in some immigrants Tell us more about what Latinos are like. 
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I too consider the discussion of a vital national issue that directly impacts the lives of more than 11 million people to be "pandering."
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Cartouche posted:Tell us more about what Latinos are like. Trill as gently caress
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The only reason democrats want amnesty for millions of illegal immigrants is simply for their votes.
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Immortan posted:The only reason democrats want amnesty for millions of illegal immigrants is simply for their votes. Bernie will be a better anti christ than Obama https://berniesanders.com/a-fair-and-humane-immigration-policy/
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Commie NedFlanders posted:Pro tip from the future Latinos will turn this nation further socialist Bout drat time. General Bort posted:Also soccer will be a popular sport Also bout drat time. Commie NedFlanders posted:Trill as gently caress   
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When are Latinos going to apologize for colonizing south america, and murdering and enslaving the indigenous peoples? Until they can prove that they are ashamed of their violent past and have become Progressives, we need to keep em out.
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The Saurus posted:When are Latinos going to apologize for colonizing south america, and murdering and enslaving the indigenous peoples? they're mostly mixed race
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latinos shouldve subscribed to a binary definition of race and committed themselves to genocide more completely, then they'd be better progressives
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point of return posted:they're mostly mixed race 
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Angry Birds Suicide posted:Maximum Latino
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Sebadoh Gigante posted:https://www.hillaryclinton.com/feed/8-ways-hillary-clinton-just-your-abuela/ #notmyabuela pfft, probably a bunch of BernardoHermanos.
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point of return posted:they're mostly mixed race The English were beta bitches that couldn't get native sex so they murdered them like Elliot Rodgers. The Spanish were all like Angry Birds Suicide posted:Maximum Latino 
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oops, I thought i was posting in the Bernie thread. I apologize if my posts were not appropriate for this thread.
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Shouldn't this thread be entitled "The Latino y Latina vote"? It seems kind of sexist as is. It's time the romance languages entered the 21st century.
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latin@ don't ask me how to pronounce it. who even talks out loud any more
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NotWearingPants posted:Shouldn't this thread be entitled "The Latino y Latina vote"? El Latino y Latina Votar
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Sebadoh Gigante posted:https://www.hillaryclinton.com/feed/8-ways-hillary-clinton-just-your-abuela/ #notmyabuela its so cool how the latin vote should have been a gimmie considering the alternative Donald "loving" Trump but she still managed to gently caress it all up.
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Sebadoh Gigante posted:https://www.hillaryclinton.com/feed/8-ways-hillary-clinton-just-your-abuela/ #notmyabuela so the url says "8 ways" but the page itself only says "7 things" i guess they couldn't think of another one
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Duckbag posted:so the url says "8 ways" but the page itself only says "7 things" The 8th is Marc Anthony.
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Duckbag posted:so the url says "8 ways" but the page itself only says "7 things" they decided against the speedy gonzalez gif at the last minute
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At least they didn't go with the first draft
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that is actually worse than when i call my chilean coworker a lazy mexican who sleeps in after drinking cervezas
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Latin@s are just crazy about socialism though. I don't care how many dozens of tamales Hilary makes in a single batch, they're going to Bernie for sure.
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they're going to vote against trump
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point of return posted:they're going to vote against trump lol  oh yeah right of course Latinos are just going to line up and jump through whatever hoops that some Wall Street liberals erect because they are so horrified of the nightmare scenario wherein a pompous, rich, white racist man becomes the President of the United States Don't be so drat patronizing, Latinos have been struggling and suffering in this country from the whims of wealthy white men since the very beginning, they aren't going to be scared of one rich white man enough to blindly support a rich white woman who fights for many rich white men Latinos care about sensible economic policies and helping their community more than stupid false dichotomous party politics
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Commie NedFlanders posted:
That's why they'd vote against trump. Also if you're telling people not to be patronizing try not to then make mass generalizations about an entire ethnicity and what they want. For extra irony, don't use the word 'dichotomous' when presenting a false dichotomy.
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Obdicut posted:That's why they'd vote against trump. Trump will argue that as a successful billionaire job creator, he is the best person to vote for if you want economic growth. He will say Clinton works for Wall Street, not Main Street (where he plans to build a new hotel). What part of Clinton's economic views or policies will be Obviously Better for working class families who earn less than 10% of what white families earn? Trump will use the twisted, co-opted language of class warfare, claiming to be the job creator who Wall Street fears. Clinton entirely avoids class arguments, and plays the " :iamafag: I don't support the working class, I support everyone!! :iamafag: " argument which really is most effective on uneducated white people. Latinos are far more class conscious than working class whites. So tell me, from the perspective of a poor or working class Latino family, what part of Clinton's economic message is obviously more aligned to their interests than Trumps?
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Commie NedFlanders posted:Trump will argue that as a successful billionaire job creator, he is the best person to vote for if you want economic growth. He will say Clinton works for Wall Street, not Main Street (where he plans to build a new hotel). That's not going to fool Latinos, or much of anyone beyond those it already has. quote:What part of Clinton's economic views or policies will be Obviously Better for working class families who earn less than 10% of what white families earn? Better than Trump? Immigration reform, pro-labor appointees, and expanded overtime protection. I mean, those are things that are actually good that Clinton is proposing. Trump doesn't actually have an economic plan to really compare it, he just has a fantasy of massive tax cuts. quote:Clinton entirely avoids class arguments, and plays the " I don't support the working class, I support everyone!! " argument which really is most effective on uneducated white people. Actually, no, Clinton is criticizable because she lauds the middle class above others. quote:Latinos are far more class conscious than working class whites. You know that 'class conscious' doesn't mean the same thing as 'having a class consciousness', right? But anyway, yes, sure, let's grant that, that'd be a reason to vote against trump. quote:So tell me, from the perspective of a poor or working class Latino family, what part of Clinton's economic message is obviously more aligned to their interests than Trumps? The pro-union, expanded overtime protection, immigration reform parts. Commie NedFlanders posted:Latinos are overwhelmingly working class and exploited, his economic message is exactly what matters to Latinos he doesn't need to pander by talking about immigration because most Latino voters care more about their wages than they do about letting in some immigrants Haha holy poo poo I just saw this. First off, while technically true, immigration is still hugely important:  And that's because immigration is not just about 'letting in some immigrants'. It is, in fact, mostly about letting people already in the US, often who have worked and sweated and bled in this country, to stay in the country. It is inescapably tied to economics, and that you don't seem to understand that is goddamn mind-boggling. Obdicut has issued a correction as of 23:43 on Jan 6, 2016 |
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Commie NedFlanders posted:Trump will argue that as a successful billionaire job creator, he is the best person to vote for if you want economic growth. He will say Clinton works for Wall Street, not Main Street (where he plans to build a new hotel). Trump called us rapists and uses us as a punching bag. Hope this helps.
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Obdicut posted:That's not going to fool Latinos, or much of anyone beyond those it already has. Lots of good points here, I can see Clinton locking in the Latino vote vs trump, I only hope the people are sufficiently motivated, either out of support for Clinton's economic and education policies or out of rejection of Trump's racism and clear desire to dominate people to have a high voter turn out. I have feared Trump getting too many independent votes but I can see Clinton carrying the Latino vote against him. I do still worry about low turnout from the young, the left, or the working class. I remember some polls that suggested Clinton could lose a general election against Rubio. While I don't think Latinos will flock to someone with an ethnic name or face, I do think that would disarm a lot of fear. Latinos are far more critical of capitalism and supportive of "socialist" (or at least explicitly pro-working-class ) policies than average, but are also more conservative in terms of values and worldview. I do believe Sanders could energize and mobilize the Latino vote more than Clinton, not to mention independent poor and middle class voters.
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Humboldt Squid posted:Trump called us rapists and uses us as a punching bag. Hope this helps. Are you an illegal immigrant to the United States, Humboldt Squid? Because if you aren't I'm not sure how you're using "we" in that sentence.
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Great great. Do you understand that immigration is not 'letting in some immigrants' and trivializing it like that--and separating it from economic issues--was super-silly of you? quote:Latinos are far more critical of capitalism and supportive of "socialist" (or at least explicitly pro-working-class ) policies than average, but are also more conservative in terms of values and worldview. Please stop talking about what Latinos are or are not, unless you have completely descended into self-parody.
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Obdicut posted:Great great. Do you understand that immigration is not 'letting in some immigrants' and trivializing it like that--and separating it from economic issues--was super-silly of you? Please stop posting
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Humboldt Squid posted:Trump called us rapists and uses us as a punching bag. Hope this helps. I think you might be stupid because thats not what he said.
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Immortan posted:I think you might be stupid because thats not what he said. Sounds like your avatar better describes Donald Trump himself on this matter
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Obdicut posted:Great great. Do you understand that immigration is not 'letting in some immigrants' and trivializing it like that--and separating it from economic issues--was super-silly of you? Claro que si. Yo entiendo ahora, la immagracion no es insignificado. Es mejor que decir "la immigracion no es la solomente problems para los Latinos como los gringos creen" quote:Please stop talking about what Latinos are or are not, unless you have completely descended into self-parody. como la normalmente, estoy algo jugando y tambien serioso peligroso Commie NedFlanders has issued a correction as of 05:01 on Jan 7, 2016 |
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