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What's funny is the next gen Protege (ironically the very next year after mine) had airbags. I imagine they had everything ready to go but just wanted to wait until the next gen to implement everything because it would have been a giant PITA to put it in the middle of a generation already tooled and being built. Kinda sucks, but is what it is. Reminds me of back in the day when I was in a relationship with this chick that was buying a new car, I turned her on to a new Escort GT which was at the model year end in 94. They only had a few left in limited lovely colors (purple and green), and of course the salesman said they were not getting any more in anytime soon. Well no more than a week after she got the car they had a huge shipment of new GTs in an array of colors without the lovely auto belts and they also implemented the loving air bags! She was pissed and made a huge stink at the dealer but of course they wouldn't do a drat thing for her. The salesman had to know the new model was coming out and probably already had a shipment ordered, but just wanted the sale on that day. gently caress dealers.
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Time to fix shitbox #4! It currently has a massive water pump leak that needs to be fixed, bad brake booster, and has a bad misfire I need to diagnose. Yay for me?  You can see all four shitboxes in this picture. The Camry has developed a bad power steering leak, hooray! This is the only pic I have of the booster replacement, this is the old pile of poo poo. Apparently it's pretty rare for these to fail, the one I replaced it with looks a lot worse than this one, who knows how it happened.  Also had to buy a new battery because this isn't good.  New hotness.  Now before I start tearing the motor down to the water pump, I first have to get out all the STOP LEAK that a certain PO decided to put in the cooling system (Toolshack  ) I tried unsuccessfully flushing with water and decided to bring out the big guns: This poo poo is amazing. It's available on Amazon, just don't get it on your skin it's nasty poo poo......Ask me how I know. After the first drain i was amazed at all the poo poo that came out, because with about five flushed of straight distilled water I was getting barely anything to come out. First drain with the flush agent in it:  Second drain, which is all water flushing from here on after the initial flush:  Third flush, you can see all the flakes of the stop leak still in it, it's like a oily flaky mess.  Fourth flush.  Fifth. Still seeing the loving flakes.  And finally on the sixth it look clean enough, gently caress it.  Moral of the story? DON'T PUT STOP LEAK IN YOUR loving COOLING SYSTEM Applebees Appetizer fucked around with this message at 17:14 on Apr 7, 2016 |
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Seat Safety Switch posted:Looks like chili. Remind me to not eat any chili you make.
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Man, that poo poo is nasty.
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When I took the plug out some of that poo poo got in behind my glove and it started to burn. Washed it off and flushed with cold water for awhile but it continued to feel funny and I freaked out a little bit. With all the carcinogens I've been exposed to over my lifetime (worked with jet fuel in the Air Force) I will not be surprised at all if i end up with cancer.
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Shampoo posted:Remind me to not eat any chili you make. People line up to fellate him after trying his chili.
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leica posted:When I took the plug out some of that poo poo got in behind my glove and it started to burn. Washed it off and flushed with cold water for awhile but it continued to feel funny and I freaked out a little bit. With all the carcinogens I've been exposed to over my lifetime (worked with jet fuel in the Air Force) I will not be surprised at all if i end up with cancer. That might be the most perfect comeback in the history of the forums. Seat Safety Switch fucked around with this message at 18:17 on Apr 7, 2016 |
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Thanks to the rear end in a top hat garbage man for not taking my overloaded can, I get to make a trip to the dump instead of working on the Miata today! I love how home ownership loves to gently caress with your plans on a daily basis.
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That's why I use my neighbors' cans, but admittedly (most of) my neighbors won't try and shoot at me. I miss my old neighbours, they never recycled anything so their recycle bin was always empty and they didn't care if I crammed it full of junk.
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Well I think it's a new garbage guy because it's never been a problem before, either that or they're cracking down on people stuffing cans with landscaping poo poo I dunno. Still took time I wasn't expecting, so once again cars get put on the back burner. The Miata is pretty low on the priority list right now 
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leica posted:Well I think it's a new garbage guy because it's never been a problem before, either that or they're cracking down on people stuffing cans with landscaping poo poo I dunno. Still took time I wasn't expecting, so once again cars get put on the back burner. The Miata is pretty low on the priority list right now In Indiana you have to purchase special refuse bags for any lawn or tree clippings.
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I figure this is as good a place as any to come clean. Hello, I am ionn, and I am a destroyer of Mazda BG's. Me and some friends race in the Swedish equivalent of 24hrs of Lemons, called Skrotbilsrejset. One of the quirks with that is that you have to sign the car over to the arranger before the start of the race, and afterwards every single car competing gets scrapped. Even if you broke something stupid during qualifying/practice and can't even start, car is gone. Next race, a new car. That race is held twice a year (around last weekends of March and October) and since 2010 we have participated in 8 races with 9 cars. Of those 9 cars, 5 have been Mazda 323 BG's (1989-1992), exclusively red hatchbacks, and 4 of those have been with the 1.8DOHC engine (130-ish hp, almost exactly the same one found in 1.8 Miatas). We have two more cars lined up (one red hatchback, and one "spare" black 323F) so we'll be ruining a couple more of these beautiful cars, probably as long as we can buy them. These cars are actually getting a bit rare in Sweden. The 1.8 DOHC was not too common to begin with (most are SOHC, usually 1.6 for the hatchback and 1.8 for the 323F), and every race 4-5 or so get destroyed (it's a popular car in that race) which is almost the entire second hand market turnover of these things. I like to think that these are near the end of their life (inevitably being rustbuckets, often requiring a lot of fixing) and that we are sending them off to a worthy end with this race, but we are still causing them a possibly premature early death. I often have had these things as regular-use beater cars before they get raced, and love them. I've had our black 323F as a winter car while the Miata was parked over winter and thoroughly enjoyed it. Are we doing the right thing or is this evil? Random pics of our race cars now crushed into metal cubes:   
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Good poo poo man, post more pics! As for the Miata I'm kinda pissed right now....   gently caress this bullshit, no way this poo poo is going to be eradicated from the cooling system. I was going to keep the car but now I'm really tempted to get rid of it once I fix it. I can't seem to own a Miata without some kind of loving issue.
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Rad is out. At this point if I was going to keep it It would be a toy/autoX car so I'm tempted to rip out the a/c since it doesn't work anyway. But I'm kinda torn on what to do, on the other hand I'd like a Jeep Wrangler for a toy so I dunno. Anyone know if whats left of the stop leak will cause issues down the road?
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It probably won't. I've seen some really horrifyingly gross cooling systems that still never overheated. That being said, that residue is obviously oily. So I would try, say, a quart of purple power degreaser/floor cleaner added to a cooling system full of clean tap water (you're going to reflush after, so who cares if you use tap water for a few days) and run it. Hopefully it'll emulsify that bullshit better than the cooling system cleaner did, which was probably designed to eat calcium and rust deposits, an entirely different task from removing oily stopleak buildup. This of course might uncover whatever hole they managed to barely plug with the stopleak, so proceed at your own risk.
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leica posted:I'd like a Jeep Wrangler for a toy Have I got a deal for you
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kastein posted:It probably won't. I've seen some really horrifyingly gross cooling systems that still never overheated. That being said, that residue is obviously oily. So I would try, say, a quart of purple power degreaser/floor cleaner added to a cooling system full of clean tap water (you're going to reflush after, so who cares if you use tap water for a few days) and run it. Hopefully it'll emulsify that bullshit better than the cooling system cleaner did, which was probably designed to eat calcium and rust deposits, an entirely different task from removing oily stopleak buildup. Well that poo poo I got says "Removes grease, oil and sludge" that's why I got it, but it obviously didn't do that great of a job. Maybe I'll try a degreaser, but i wish i would have known that before i put a ton of new cooling parts on it.......Which that alone may get rid of most of it, I have all new hoses and a water pump, I can clean out the thermostat housing and any coolant pipes I can get to by hand, most that would be left was inside the motor. Also I'm pretty sure the poo poo was put in to try and stop a radiator leak, because right before I picked it up Toolshack had a new rad put in for me because he was worried it wouldn't hold up on my drive back. He might have put it in way before the leak got bad to the point of needing a replacement, I dunno, but maybe if he reads the thread he can chime in if he remembers. I don't really blame him, but I'm gonna bust his balls for it if he indeed put the evil poo poo in there Bucephalus posted:Have I got a deal for you Do tell 
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leica posted:I was going to keep the car but now I'm really tempted to get rid of it once I fix it. I can't seem to own a Miata without some kind of loving issue. Join the club.
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leica posted:Do tell Ohio
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I need to make a decision here soon on what I'm gonna do with the car before I start tearing into it, I keep going back and forth about what I want to do. Go figure, automotive add. On one hand Miatas are great fun, but the roads around here are not so it ends up being a top down cruiser which is fine, but I feel like a Wrangler would do a better job of that with more seats for the three of us, and more utility for going to the beach and what not. Plus I can take the doors off a Wrangler  On the other hand I could autoX the Miata but I don't know if I'd actually have the time to make it a worthwhile thing and reason to keep the Miata around. If I lived in Tennessee or someplace with a bunch of fun back roads it would be a no brainer, but around here in urban sprawl flatland Florida it seems like such a waste to own a Miata anymore I should add that I'll be driving the Camry for a DD and will be getting the wife a better, lower mileage car for her long daily commute. The Protege is going to get sold as soon as I get the Miata running.
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Enourmo posted:get a wrangler I could autoX the (automatic) Camry
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Rhyno posted:In Indiana you have to purchase special refuse bags for any lawn or tree clippings. It's a city by city thing here, but yeah, generally lawn stuff goes into giant paper bags and set out next to the garbage. They'll pick it up (in my city anyway) if it's in the garbage can, but they leave a nasty note on the bin (and if you do it often they stop collecting trash until you talk to them or something.. or maybe add a fine to your water bill? I forget...) It's a whole other can of worms if it's bulky stuff, particularly after a nasty storm (which usually sees a lot of tree parts/whole trees and fence panels tossed out)
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All that time and effort into the Protege just to sell it?
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I swear I never put that poo poo in, I only had the car for like a year before selling it to you. I just always added water to the thing before driving it when the leaking started from the radiator. My Dad always used to do coolest flushes with Ajax, run it for a few days with that in it then dump it out.
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kastein posted:airbag engineering
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Honda did those weird door-mounted belts too, but only on coupes. My 88 Accord coupe had them. The buckle had an "EMERGENCY RELEASE" sticker on it. But actually getting in and out of the thing with those things attached was impossible for me - and I was a twig at the time (~130-140 lbs).
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When you go to sell the miata just tell them you were running dex cool Honestly I think that's a stupid reason to sell a car. (The terrible roads and such, sure I get that) Just flush it a little more often if it really bothers you, I don't think it's going to hurt anything since you probably got most of that poo poo out of it already. Why are you selling the other shitbox? You're probably like me in the fact that you like the idea of owning such cars more than actually owning them. I bought a wagon because wagons are sweet but I have a truck. Why the gently caress would I need cargo space and another vehicle that handles like a goddamn boat? 
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Throw some evaporust in the cooling system. That poo poo worked miracles in old trucks I've seen. If it doesn't work you're selling it anyway.
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Rhyno posted:All that time and effort into the Protege just to sell it? That was the plan all along, you thought about buying it remember? Lol I need to find our conversation and quote it. [e] found it leica posted:I was hoping I'd get more mileage out of the sex on the floor title, what the gently caress Rhyno posted:I might seriously take you up on that, cash permitting. My original plan from the beginning was to drive the Protege while I fixed the Miata, then sell them both so i could get a Mazda 2. Then my wife got her job with a long commute across the bay, and it was apparent that she needed a better car because the commute started taking a toll on the 200k mile Camry. So we decided that we would get her a new car (hence my Lexus thread, we'll be getting an LS430) and I'll take the Camry and keep the Miata for a toy or sell it and get a Wrangler. Well that's the plan so far, it's subject to change at a moment's notice TooLShack posted:I swear I never put that poo poo in, I only had the car for like a year before selling it to you. I just always added water to the thing before driving it when the leaking started from the radiator. My Dad always used to do coolest flushes with Ajax, run it for a few days with that in it then dump it out. Haha well that's good. I could have sworn you had the car longer than that. Also I've been adding water to it this entire time as well, I think the water pump was the main issue all along, adding a new rad just slowed it down a bit. Left Ventricle posted:b) if the door flies open in a crash, what exactly are you being protected by? Holy poo poo I never even thought of that. Auto belts were the worst idea ever. Applebees Appetizer fucked around with this message at 16:43 on Apr 8, 2016 |
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Larrymer posted:Honestly I think that's a stupid reason to sell a car. (The terrible roads and such, sure I get that) Just flush it a little more often if it really bothers you, I don't think it's going to hurt anything since you probably got most of that poo poo out of it already. Why are you selling the other shitbox? I wouldn't have sold it just because of the stop leak, I was just pissed off at the moment about it. I just think as a third "fun" vehicle a Wrangler will be better suited for me and the family, we can't all fit in the Miata obviously, and I feel like Miatas are just relegated to cruisers around here and it's kinda sad because they need to be on twisty roads being the happy roadster that they are. If I did keep it I would have to make a conscious effort to track it and/or autoX it just to get it to it's potential and to feel like I'm not wasting it just cruising around if that makes any sense. Also we live on the beach, spend lots of time going to the beach, and a Wrangler is just a better beach vehicle. Applebees Appetizer fucked around with this message at 16:46 on Apr 8, 2016 |
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No I just expected you to keep it longer!
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I never really intended to keep it for a long time, was gonna be a flip more or less once I had no use for it. I mainly got it because the Miata was laid up, I was sick of riding a scooter to work and I saw an opportunity for a cheap BG so I jumped on it. It's been a great get to work beater for sure and will serve someone else well now that I've buttoned it up.
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