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Seat Safety Switch
May 27, 2008

MY RELIGION IS THE SMALL BLOCK V8 AND COMMANDMENTS ONE THROUGH TEN ARE NEVER LIFT.

Pillbug
Get bronze bushings from McMaster.

http://hooniverse.com/2015/08/17/justy-little-project-car-shifter-tips-for-everyone-sweet-new-wheels-for-me/

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Applebees Appetizer
Jan 23, 2006

Has it been confirmed that those are the correct size bushings and bolts that will fit a BG?

everdave
Nov 14, 2005

leica posted:

I'm REALLY tempted to grab a Kia BP/G series because there are lots of them in the yards. Gotta take baby steps though, once I get this thing buttoned up I have to get to work on my Miata, I've been neglecting it for far too long.

Drove the protege to work today and man it sounds like poo poo, the exhaust is swiss cheese at this point. I imagine it should run a bit better too with a little back pressure once I get the new exhaust on. Also decided to get a windshield through insurance, by FL law if you have comprehensive coverage the insurance company has to pay for it. Doing both the protege and Camry, and if my rates go up I'm jumping ship.

Good deal, did this on my last old car when prepping it for sale. I have maxed out comprehensive on two 15+ year old vehicles with a $50 deductible because: I have no car payments, and $90 a month is good piece of mind.

Applebees Appetizer
Jan 23, 2006

Having surging idle issues again, down low to under 100 rpm almost stalling, then back up to around 800 rpm at normal idle, over and over until I get moving. It starts to happen after the motor warms up.

After the tune up it seemed to disappear but has returned, I doubt it's the IAC because the rpm's usually go up in that scenario.

clam ache
Sep 6, 2009
Does it kinda have a hissing sound from the motor. Like a vacuum leak. Maybe all the new stuff you put on caused some old rubber to blow out. Or it could just he old rubber doing what old rubber does and cracking

Applebees Appetizer
Jan 23, 2006

It was doing it a lot worse before I did the tune up, it would flat out die. Now it's just loping down and up. I haven't noticed any hissing, but I'll have to pay more attention next time.

I've read on CP that it's probably a good idea to replace the vacuum lines, so I think I'm gonna do that soon and see what happens. It the only remaining thing I can think of besides maybe a bad ground, but I cleaned those up already.

randomidiot
May 12, 2006

by Fluffdaddy

(and can't post for 11 years!)

leica posted:

But honestly, comprehensive is so cheap, I always add it on to my cars by default. Probably is overkill for this car though.

[e] If it catches on fire and burns to the ground I'd probably get more than what I paid for it :v:

I keep comprehensive and uninsured/underinsured motorist on every car I've owned since a shitbox got stolen.

In TX, UM/UIM also covers hit and runs, whether driving or parked, and it's not much more expensive than comprehensive. It's paid for itself several times over from having two cars get hit while parked.

As for your surging idle, I know Hondas do exactly the same thing when they have a decent vacuum leak. Wouldn't surprise me if Mazda ECUs did the same.

(a cracked PCV valve or loose oil filler cap/dipstick can also cause weird idle issues)

randomidiot fucked around with this message at 07:36 on Oct 31, 2015

bandman
Mar 17, 2008
My old BG would surge and die at idle when the intake boot cracked down in those little folds. The constant heat from being understood kinda bakes them.

Seat Safety Switch
May 27, 2008

MY RELIGION IS THE SMALL BLOCK V8 AND COMMANDMENTS ONE THROUGH TEN ARE NEVER LIFT.

Pillbug
Subarus also get little post-MAF leaks from little tears between the ribs of the intake piping. Seriously sucks to track down since they're hard to see, especially the underside which is closest to the engine heat soak.

The last one I found was only after I pulled the hose for an unrelated fix and decided to clean the inside of the hose on a lark.

Applebees Appetizer
Jan 23, 2006

some texas redneck posted:

(a cracked PCV valve or loose oil filler cap/dipstick can also cause weird idle issues)

Hmm, I just noticed recently that there is a bit of a leak from the filler cap, maybe it's time for a new one.

I'm thinking the engine is going to run a lot different (better) once I get the new exhaust on it, so once that's done I'll start trying to track down the source of the problem (throw more parts at it :v:)

everdave
Nov 14, 2005
Surging like that I would consider vacuum lines first, but also things like plug wires...I am assuming you have put new ones on there but I'd check...

Applebees Appetizer
Jan 23, 2006

Yep new NGK wires and plugs, cap and rotor. Considering a new coil as well since they're pretty cheap.

Got the exhaust today :woop:


clam ache
Sep 6, 2009
Yeah the exhaust will definitely help the idle a good chunk. It will also be easier to diagnosis a vacuum leak with a quiet exhaust.

Ardemia
Jan 2, 2004

IT IS MY RIGHT TO GET BEHIND THE WHEEL WHEN I'VE PUT BACK SIX SHIRLEY TEMPLES OK

:patriot:
Random thought on the idle hunt/surge: make sure the spark plug boot ends are looking good on the new plugs. On my 97 Accord I had a little bit on an idle surge left after an ignition tuneup to address the issue, and one of my spark plug boots was a bit off on the #4 cylinder (tip was a bit sideways in the boot). Did well after that. I still get a random small stumble, but nothing too bad at all.

Applebees Appetizer
Jan 23, 2006

Aaaaand it died on me today trying to take it to work. I noticed that it was struggling a bit to crank yesterday, and today got a couple of weak turnovers then nothing. Didn't have time to check the battery, but it has a 12/12 date on it so it's only about three years old. I just hope there's not a draw on it or something, can't imagine a car with no options other than a/c draining the battery.

steady
Feb 28, 2011
Pillbug

leica posted:

Aaaaand it died on me today trying to take it to work. I noticed that it was struggling a bit to crank yesterday, and today got a couple of weak turnovers then nothing. Didn't have time to check the battery, but it has a 12/12 date on it so it's only about three years old. I just hope there's not a draw on it or something, can't imagine a car with no options other than a/c draining the battery.

Probably a minor electrical short. Had a similar issue with my parents Corolla. If left idle for 2 days, battery went flat. We resolved the issue by a chance when we replaced the starter which decided to munch on itself.

Applebees Appetizer
Jan 23, 2006

Took it to Advance auto and they tested it on the car. No drain on it and it was barely alive, they suggested maybe the alternator but it was recently replaced and the car wouldn't start to test it so I just said gently caress it and got a new battery rather than wait around for them to charge it and have it die again to tell me yeah it's the battery.

Made an appointment to get the windshield replaced tomorrow, and it's still too loving hot for me to put it on jackstands and start loving with the exhaust, besides I got the exhaust but no gaskets yet and I ordered them at the same time wtf. I'm really hoping I'm not going to have to dump much more money and time into this thing, I just need to drive it so I can get to work on the Miata.

Gonna have to make a trip to the JY and try to find a new hood and hinges as well as other bits.

ionn
Jan 23, 2004

Din morsa.
Grimey Drawer
I just want to whine and moan a bit over the fact that my winter beater shitbox 323F just turned up a busted brake line (left rear, at the axle fairly close to the brake hose). On all the old BG's I've ever done brake stuff on, I have never been able to get the brake line fittings out of that "distribution block" that sits on top of the rear axle (because 20+ years worth of Swedish winter gunk and subsequent corrosion), and often not at the hose end either. So I'll probably have to cut the brake line and fiddle with putting fittings on the steel line and it's going to leak and I'll be cold and miserable when doing it and get a facial of brake fluid and oh god I hate steel brake lines and who the gently caress really needs brakes anyway.

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!
Awesome car! Great thread! I almost bought an old Protege before you guys talked me into a Miata. So I got curious and of course I find several decent cars within driving distance but I have to buy a loving house so no more cars for me.

Applebees Appetizer
Jan 23, 2006

Thanks dude bro.

Just checked the tracking on my package from Tommychu, it's in Orlando now, hopefully I'll get it in the morning, or at least by Monday! :woop:

Then the car is going on jackstands and I'll really be ripping it apart this time, while I'm doing the auto to manual belt swap I'm going to take out the carpet and give it a good power washin'. Then I'm also gonna tackle the exhaust, shifter bushings, brakes and anything else that comes up which probably will :v:

Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012

Neat thread to follow! I really like the BG platform cars. The first car I owned was a beat-up 1994 MX-3 (ok, technically not BG but damned close) that I wish I'd known more about wrenching while owning. Learned to drive on an Escort wagon, still one of the best cars ever made IMO. Currently DD a nice strippo ZX2. Looking forward to seeing where this goes.

Applebees Appetizer
Jan 23, 2006

Windshield replaced.



Painted the muffler, cowl, and wiper arms.



Fabricated a battery bracket :v:



Then i changed the oil and found this in the drain pan.



Should I be worried? :ohdear:

Seat Safety Switch
May 27, 2008

MY RELIGION IS THE SMALL BLOCK V8 AND COMMANDMENTS ONE THROUGH TEN ARE NEVER LIFT.

Pillbug
I'm impressed you even bothered to check. What is it? It doesn't look metallic. Maybe time for a Blackstone job?

What paint did you use on the muffler? That poo poo is shiny.

Applebees Appetizer
Jan 23, 2006

You can see the little shards in the pan too, I think it's aluminum because it's really soft.....Maybe from the threads in the oil pan? Main bearings aren't that soft are they? I did run a little bit of seafoam in the crankcase for 50 miles, I don't think that would have hurt anything though.

The paint is some sort of rustoleum for car trim poo poo, it is kinda shinny, I may just go over it with a coat of flat.

Applebees Appetizer fucked around with this message at 00:35 on Nov 8, 2015

sharkytm
Oct 9, 2003

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Sharkytm doot doo do doot do doo


Fallen Rib

leica posted:

You can see the little shards in the pan too, I think it's aluminum because it's really soft.....Maybe from the threads in the oil pan? Main bearings aren't that soft are they? I did run a little bit of seafoam in the crankcase for 50 miles, I don't think that would have hurt anything though.

The paint is some sort of rustoleum for car trim poo poo, it is kinda shinny, I may just go over it with a coat of flat.

Automotive bearings are very soft on the inside layer, but they usually are flexible, not rigid. There's a steel shell, then bronze, and then babbit.

Tony quidprano
Jan 19, 2014
IM SO BAD AT ACTUALLY TALKING ABOUT F1 IN ANY MEANINGFUL WAY SOME DUDE WITH TOO MUCH FREE MONEY WILL KEEP CHANGING IT UNTIL I SHUT THE FUCK UP OR ACTUALLY POST SOMETHING THAT ISNT SPEWING HATE/SLURS/TELLING PEOPLE TO KILL THEMSELVES
Hard to tell but my first guess would be oil filter material.

Applebees Appetizer
Jan 23, 2006

Hot drat I think you're right because I had to break out the filter wrench to get it off and it was a bitch, it's probably shavings from me scraping the gently caress out of the filter to get it off falling into the pan. Phew!

Phone
Jul 30, 2005

親子丼をほしい。
You might have been out of a whole hundred of dollars for a new BP. :P

Applebees Appetizer
Jan 23, 2006

Haha gently caress that, no desire to do a swap in this car I'm just gonna drive it until I can save up for a Mazda 2 :)

Applebees Appetizer
Jan 23, 2006

Got the belts! :woop:



Thanks tommychu!

Does anyone know how to "unlock" seatbelts? They don't want to come out from the reel :(

Queen_Combat
Jan 15, 2011
On old VW seatbelts you soak them in a bucket with dawn soap for an hour or two, give them a shake around, and they unlock. Had to do that to three used sets of seatbelts I got from ebay.

Turbo Fondant
Oct 25, 2010

You have to hold them more-or-less exactly vertical, the way they'd sit in the car. That hosed me up too.

Queen_Combat
Jan 15, 2011
And yeah, of course, that. Mine is for if they still won't come unstuck and are jammed.

Applebees Appetizer
Jan 23, 2006

Well thanks for that tip anyway, the right rear passenger belt is jammed so i'll try the soap soak method for that one.

SUSE Creamcheese
Apr 11, 2007
Wouldn't that rust the hell out of the seatbelt mechanism and/or strip all the grease out of it?

blindjoe
Jan 10, 2001
Its probably the ball bearing needs to be shaken out of its lock position.

I always think that seatbelts are broken when they are out of the car, you just need to get the right combo of tilted and shaken.

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!

blindjoe posted:

you just need to get the right combo of tilted and shaken.


Some real James Bond poo poo in here.

Applebees Appetizer
Jan 23, 2006

Up and ready for the exhaust/shifter bushings and a gearbox fluid change.



I tried using the back yard on the grass but it was way to unstable, so in the carport it is. A bit cramped in here but it's good enough and I don't have to worry about the car falling on my head :)



Been driving around with this poo poo for two weeks, good loving riddance.



Studs coming off the cat aren't looking so hot, I'm assuming these will work with a little finesse putting the nut back on :ohdear:





Hey at least the cat looks good, I was expecting it to be all black and clogged up!



OH poo poo PAGING 14 INCH FUUUUUUCK



Yes those are black widow eggs god dammit.

Applebees Appetizer fucked around with this message at 21:06 on Nov 12, 2015

Seat Safety Switch
May 27, 2008

MY RELIGION IS THE SMALL BLOCK V8 AND COMMANDMENTS ONE THROUGH TEN ARE NEVER LIFT.

Pillbug
Holy poo poo is that what used exhaust studs look like??

Dan get in here, look holy poo poo it's threads.

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clam ache
Sep 6, 2009
That's my thought exactly. I just today pulled and exhaust of an Exploder that was basically held together by rust. Those threads look decent.

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