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Tan Dumplord
Mar 9, 2005

by FactsAreUseless

CLAM DOWN posted:

It's a brand new building with brand new appliances with glass tops that literally cannot cause fires on their own. You'd have to, like, move your pot of water and literally put flammable material on the glass top while turned on high. I cannot fathom how you think it's an understandable mistake to set a building on fire like this.

The human body is infallible. Nobody has ever encountered a temporary, permanent, or intermittent condition that inhibits their cognitive or motor skills. All noted facts.

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Tan Dumplord
Mar 9, 2005

by FactsAreUseless
Wow, you got in an avoidable vehicular collision? The only possible explanation is that you, sir, are functionally retarded.

Tan Dumplord
Mar 9, 2005

by FactsAreUseless
Or anyone with any sort of physical impairment, apparently.

Tan Dumplord
Mar 9, 2005

by FactsAreUseless
Yes, that's an accurate read of the conversation. :psyduck: indeed.

vvv --- what's that crazy talk?! Of course very smart and not functionally retarded people are immune to accidents.

Tan Dumplord fucked around with this message at 19:41 on Dec 3, 2015

Tan Dumplord
Mar 9, 2005

by FactsAreUseless
Taxis in Toronto drive like complete assholes and continually violate the rules of the road: using merge lanes to pass traffic, failing to signal, performing unsafe maneuvers, overall driving selfishly at the expense of others.

Them complaining about UberX drivers breaking the rules is laughable. I'll shed a tear the day I see a Taxi driving courteously.

Tan Dumplord
Mar 9, 2005

by FactsAreUseless

PT6A posted:

Remember the taxi driver who basically tried to carjack an Uber and got dragged a ways? Turns out he used to drive for Uber but is now all pissed off at them. The Uber driver should have shook him off and then backed over him, IMO.

No, you see, here in Ontario the correct course of action would be to navigate your vehicle into a stationary object, killing the hanger-on. It's completely legal, at least if you're a former Attorney General.

Tan Dumplord
Mar 9, 2005

by FactsAreUseless

infernal machines posted:

To get the city to enforce its own laws, because not doing so severely disadvantages the people who are actually following them.

The exact same way that when cabbies break traffic laws, it severely disadvantages those who follow them. So boo loving hoo. Decades of their own lovely, illegal behaviour puts them in weak standing.

It's like a serial murderer complaining that someone assaulted them.

Tan Dumplord
Mar 9, 2005

by FactsAreUseless

infernal machines posted:

Yes, it's exactly like that, you ridiculous cretin.

I'm glad we agree, you narrow-minded simpleton.

Seriously though, if cabbies want to retain their stranglehold on the market, they should be exemplary drivers.

Tan Dumplord
Mar 9, 2005

by FactsAreUseless

THC posted:

Those things could just as easily happen with an Uber.

Yes, but if you're dissatisfied with the performance of an Uber driver, you can rate them poorly, leading to real repercussions, including other customers learning of the driver's poor behaviour and boycotting them, or even being fired by Uber.

If a taxi driver drives like poo poo, and I call the company to complain, precisely jack poo poo will happen. When I call a cab I have no way of knowing if the driver is lovely, except that by experience, they all are.

Strangely, Uber regulates the behaviour of the drivers better than our government.

Sure, enforce the Uber ban. At the same time, bring stricter regulations to Taxi drivers. If they want to dominate the market, they should be forced to deliver better service.

Tan Dumplord
Mar 9, 2005

by FactsAreUseless
It doesn't come as a shock that the CRA has been manipulated by the previous government to hamper audits and collection against tax cheats.

The National Post spares no time explaining that it's a :siren: BREACH OF ETHICS :siren: for insiders to disclose this fact.

Tan Dumplord
Mar 9, 2005

by FactsAreUseless
A co-worker remarked that he saw that the refugees were out BUYING FURNITURE with a GOVERNMENT-ISSUED CREDIT CARD and he was very upset by this fact.

I think it's probably a good idea not to disclose which suppliers are providing for refugees.

Tan Dumplord
Mar 9, 2005

by FactsAreUseless

flakeloaf posted:

Your co-worker sounds like an rear end in a top hat and the rest of us have the right to know who's getting this spent tax money.

Do we get full disclosure on, say, what vendors CSIS/CSEC/RCMP use and how much they spend? Do you think it's more or less important that we get this disclosure versus refugee grocery spending?

Tan Dumplord
Mar 9, 2005

by FactsAreUseless

flakeloaf posted:

Yes, that's generally how transparency is supposed to work, and I think you're ridiculous for believing that the racist morons who would boycott and protest businesses for having the temerity to help people wouldn't be immediately shouted down by the much larger percentage of the population who aren't jerks. Placating them is stupid and should not be a priority.

We should stop placating criminals and disclose police movements. The larger percentage of the population that isn't criminal will openly rebuke the criminals, and that's good enough.

It doesn't matter that many people decry the firebombing of a mosque. It still happened. Likewise, the retribution that occurs towards those who help refugees will still happen. Isn't limiting harm a good thing?

I mean, we already know that the Liberal spending practices are corrupt as gently caress, but there's sweet gently caress all we can do about it. What's the point of forcing them to be open about it where there is a risk of real harm in revealing the information?

Tan Dumplord
Mar 9, 2005

by FactsAreUseless

flakeloaf posted:

"She was asking for it".

Okay, so full disclosure of everything all the time even when it might harm someone? You would be okay demanding that the police document undercover operations in real time?

I mean, those undercover cops don't need the protection of secrecy. We should just let them get killed and then prosecute the murderers.

Tan Dumplord
Mar 9, 2005

by FactsAreUseless

flakeloaf posted:

The notion that disclosing where we buy mittens Qur'ans will probably harm someone is absurd.

Tan Dumplord
Mar 9, 2005

by FactsAreUseless
This would be a valid concern if there were anything at all that could be done about government corruption.

Tan Dumplord
Mar 9, 2005

by FactsAreUseless
Oh no, the government is single-sourcing this item at a ridiculous cost! Just you wait, in 4 years I'll vote against those bastards and surely the new ruling party will not do this thing or anything else reprehensible. Oh, but if they do, just you wait another 4 years and I'll show THOSE bastards, too!

Tan Dumplord
Mar 9, 2005

by FactsAreUseless

infernal machines posted:

WTF does this even mean?

It means that there are no mechanisms in our political system by which we can correct corruption in a meaningful way.

The federal conservatives were corrupt. They went on being as corrupt as they pleased until the day they were voted out. There will be no repercussion for the vast, vast majority of their corrupt action (if there is any at all). We can't go undo the damage caused by the corruption retroactively, and there's nothing stopping another majority from doing it again.

Look at all the corruption already exposed about the OLP. Even in the sunlight, there will be no consequence for the guilty.

Tan Dumplord
Mar 9, 2005

by FactsAreUseless
I'm saying that in this case, where there is a potential benefit in nondisclosure (that there will not be vitriol and violence directed at the supplier of the goods, expanding anti-refugee sentiment to more targets and resonating that sentiment through common enemies) and zero benefit in disclosure that maybe nondisclosure is not awful.

I'm all for summary execution of the corrupt, but that's just not the way our system works (the way it works is that there is no disincentive or penalty for corruption).

Tan Dumplord
Mar 9, 2005

by FactsAreUseless

infernal machines posted:

:psypop:

"Corruption exists, it's better if we don't see it when seeing it can cause harm and produce no benefit",

FTFY

quote:

"This could maybe look bad, so it's better if we don't know"

Not sure who's saying that.

Tan Dumplord
Mar 9, 2005

by FactsAreUseless

Baronjutter posted:

Right but roundup makes bee's GMO.

I'm trying to make sense of this. Is the apostrophe a typo?

Tan Dumplord
Mar 9, 2005

by FactsAreUseless
Who's the Minister of Moral Accounting again?

Tan Dumplord
Mar 9, 2005

by FactsAreUseless

Picnic Princess posted:

Hugging is actually pretty awesome and more people should do it. Bring me your trees and your thugs, I'll hug them. I'll hug them all.

Oxytocin addict spotted. Get'im boys!

Tan Dumplord
Mar 9, 2005

by FactsAreUseless

pointers posted:

wtf kind of "rural area" are you talking about that cycling is feasible.

I encounter cyclists riding on rural roads with broken, potholed pavement and a gravel shoulder, marked at 80Km/h all the time. I guess there just aren't any better places to ride a skinny-tired road bike in spandex.

Sometimes there's a group of them, and they want to keep a conversation, so they ride in double file as they crest the blind hill, never reverting to single file for traffic to pass.

York Region sucks.

Tan Dumplord
Mar 9, 2005

by FactsAreUseless

THC posted:

:qq: I have to share the road with slower moving road users :qq:

More like :qq: People risk their lives and the lives of others so they can ride a bike for exercise when stationary bikes have existed for loving years :qq:

These people aren't commuting. They're biking from point A to point A, risking their lives in the process. The roads I'm talking about are not maintained well enough for those skinny-rear end road tires. The cyclists must continually swerve around broken pavement. It's a dumb place to ride a bike.

Tan Dumplord
Mar 9, 2005

by FactsAreUseless

THC posted:

People cycle on remote roads because it's fun. Cycling is fun. Stationary bikes are not.

Doing something which is fun is good even if it endangers one's self and others, got it.

Tan Dumplord
Mar 9, 2005

by FactsAreUseless
Don't mind me, just burning this big pile of leaves on a windy day for fun. No harm, no foul, right?

Tan Dumplord
Mar 9, 2005

by FactsAreUseless
Listen, I've driven without winter tires my whole life and haven't killed anyone yet. Why should I make my vehicle safer if I'm obviously a very talented driver. I am completely in control and can ignore unforeseen circumstances.

Tan Dumplord
Mar 9, 2005

by FactsAreUseless
We should extend the dragnet to include children. I hear many of them don't even understand the concept of murder. How monstrous, lock 'em up!

Tan Dumplord
Mar 9, 2005

by FactsAreUseless

PT6A posted:

if you fail to understand that murder and terrorism are wrong, you cannot be permitted full participation in society.

Says the guy who's okay with bombing civilians.

Tan Dumplord
Mar 9, 2005

by FactsAreUseless

PT6A posted:

if you aren't capable of understanding the difference between right and wrong, you cannot be allowed to participate in society to the extent of a normal, functional adult.

Which restrictions should we place on them? Should they be allowed to breed?

How should we test people to determine if they can determine between Objectively Right and Objectively Wrong? Do they get a free prep course? Can they retake the test?

Tan Dumplord
Mar 9, 2005

by FactsAreUseless
We shouldn't be too hard on people who make society a more dangerous place with their selfish decisions -- think about the people who depend on those people!

Tan Dumplord
Mar 9, 2005

by FactsAreUseless
So what if I fired a few rounds in a crowded area? Nobody got hurt.

Think about what this conviction will do to my family that depends on me, and you'll see that punishing me only hurts them. What kind of sadist are you that you'd intentionally harm my poor family?

Tan Dumplord
Mar 9, 2005

by FactsAreUseless

The Gunslinger posted:

Can't keep sticking our hands in the sand

What, to prevent ourselves from detecting the texture of the government?

Tan Dumplord
Mar 9, 2005

by FactsAreUseless
CPC in power: "No, we won't do [a thing]. What are you, a terrorist / child pornographer?"
CPC in opposition: "You should hurry up and do [a thing]. Think of the children you're actively hurting with your delay!"

Tan Dumplord
Mar 9, 2005

by FactsAreUseless

flakeloaf posted:

The first part I get, but my motivation for moving out was not having to endure the crash of rhinos endlessly penetrating all six sides of my living space. That six feet of air between me and the other guy is worth a few hours of shoveling and yard work.

What type of apartment building has apartments with no external wall? There should only ever be rhinos on 5 sides of you.

Tan Dumplord
Mar 9, 2005

by FactsAreUseless

PT6A posted:

If the government of Calgary had the ability to block the sale of your app to most people, and was intent on doing so out of sheer petulance, you might have a good point.

Also if the app brought Alberta 0 benefit with significant risk of environmental contamination.

Tan Dumplord
Mar 9, 2005

by FactsAreUseless
Honourable job creator: Stop being petulant and let me dump this toxic waste near your city!

Selfish tree-hugging hippie politician installed by the stupid evil job-hating communist conspiracy: No! Also I am bad.

Tan Dumplord
Mar 9, 2005

by FactsAreUseless

flakeloaf posted:

Here's an idea: Instead of buying pink poo poo you don't need, how about just sending money so the charities can do their thing?

It's harder to fetishize a tax receipt than a thing that you can show off.

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Tan Dumplord
Mar 9, 2005

by FactsAreUseless

PT6A posted:

Jesus, people in this thread are so negative. Perhaps y'all should get checked out for depression. It's okay! #BellLetsTalk

Then, when the mental health professional has nothing to rebut your claim that human existence is hollow and meaningless, kill yourself! Or don't, it really doesn't matter. #BellLetsTalk

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