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All human interaction is political.
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Oct 27, 2015 02:36
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JawKnee posted:Kafka pls put in the OP that weed is not yet legal, to be updated when weed is in fact legal, so folks need not drift past the OP Check out this guy's insight.
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Oct 27, 2015 06:11
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Sedge and Bee posted:Are we seriously in for 4 years of lamenting the socialist utopia of Mulcairistan that could have been, alternating with bitter cynicism? Oui.
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Oct 27, 2015 06:17
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It's insane to me that people are getting their hackles up about 24 Sussex, even if it's only just the pundits. If the White House fell into disrepair it would be regarded as a source of national embarrassment.
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Oct 27, 2015 23:54
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If we can't trust Justin to keep his house in order how can we trust him to keep Canada in order?
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Oct 28, 2015 02:42
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Holy poo poo all those years I thought all the cat jokes about Harper were only just jokes
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Oct 29, 2015 20:10
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RBC posted:is there an actual argument in here. are you saying you are against a 6% pay cut for doctors fees and think its a good idea that a fake professional union is suing the government under the charter of rights for cutting their fees Ah, a deft maneuver around the point
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Oct 30, 2015 18:25
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Just abolish the Senate.
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Oct 31, 2015 00:46
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JawKnee posted:live well and do not breed Unironically by far the best thing you can do for the future of the planet is to adopt instead of spawn. Plus doesn't it seem vaguely selfish to create an entirely new child when there are so many children out there that need families?
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Oct 31, 2015 04:49
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cowofwar posted:They will join us soon on the bottom. 
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Oct 31, 2015 18:31
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It's still absolutely baffling that Harper actually did away with the goddamn census.
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Nov 3, 2015 06:15
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Pinterest Mom posted:In lieu of a post-election consultation, please participate in this cynical data-mining exercise in which you can tell the NDP which parts of their platform you liked the most. I didn't fill this out because I'm still an American, but holy poo poo if they think they'll get anything substantial out of this survey. Yes all the policies sound good and I like them, the problem is how far they went to support them or how far the policies go (two cents on the dollar??), and the completely embarrassing campaign they ran this year. Pinterest Mom posted:There was a reason I wanted a new thread instead of just moving the old one here~ This is a new thread.
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Nov 4, 2015 04:39
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vyelkin posted:Unsurprising to see that men still take most of the important jobs but at least women get Justice, Trade, Health, Environment, and Science. These five posts seem very important to me, actually among some of the most important positions in the cabinet. What positions do you think are missing?
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Nov 4, 2015 17:09
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Finally tuning in. That giant portrait of the Queen presiding over this is jarring to see as an American. Throw off your shackles, friends.
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Nov 4, 2015 17:18
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Should have had one kid in a green shirt.
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Nov 4, 2015 18:17
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I wish they'd get the interpreter in frame so I could actually understand what JT is saying -- or caption this.Cultural Imperial posted:Is JJ also a gay? He is.
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Nov 4, 2015 19:26
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This whole ceremony has been great to watch. It's like Canada is waking up after a long slumber, with the nightmare named Stephen Harper rapidly fading like a dream in the morning sunlight.
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Nov 4, 2015 19:36
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Having had time to reflect after the end of the ceremony and the speeches/questions, I'm convinced Mulcair wouldn't have done half as well today, not in the cabinet appointments or in interacting with the press and crowd.
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Nov 4, 2015 19:58
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sliderule posted:No, not magic. Did you really cite an incredibly rare medical occurrence as proof that people become obese without overeating?  Quality fatlogic.If you gain weight, it's always because you consumed more energy than you took in. If you lose weight it's always because you burned more energy than you took in. Medical conditions, medication, and other circumstances will change your burn rate, but it still comes down to very basic energy flow. Sarah Hoffman is, most likely, your garden-variety glutton rather than a tragic victim of a medical curiosity, and appointing her Minister of Health is a sad surrender to the obesity epidemic that has been sweeping the West and its subsequent glorification and normalization. vyelkin posted:It's just the honeymoon period, it'll wear off soon enough. I don't mind the enthusiasm. "Back to normal" is still going to be much more interaction with the press and Canada than we've had for the past decade. It's nice to have a PM who tells us what he's going to do before he does it.
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Nov 5, 2015 22:19
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jm20 posted:@justintrudeau Now that I think of it, I wouldn't mind running into the PM at the grocer.
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Nov 5, 2015 22:23
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Helsing posted:My go to meal is quinoa and beans and one of my favorite past times is chilling out to an audiobook while going on a long run. Then again even when I spent years being physically inactive and eating junkfood I never had any problems with my weight so honestly I mostly assume my fitness is a function of genetics. Either way you're going to have to find a different angle for why we apparently disagree on the causes of obesity. It is never genetics. As someone who also tends towards being "naturally" thin, the much more likely cause is that you were seriously underestimating how much you were eating even when you were sedentary and eating junk. Helsing posted:And if obesity is just an issue of personal morality then what exactly happened in the 1980s? Millions of people simultaneously just lost all their self control? You don't think there's any evidence here of some underlying social or medical factors that go beyond some trite condemnation of other people's moral problems. Actually, yeah, you're not too far off there. Companies have been getting much, much better at designing processed foods that are difficult to stop eating. "Once you pop, you can't stop", right? The other thing here is you're conflating population-level issues with personal-level issues. The solution to solve a population-wide problem is very rarely going to be the same solution to solve personal problems. Telling all of North America to suck it up, eat less, and move more isn't going to solve poo poo, but it will absolutely work for an individual as long as that individual is honest with themselves and honest in their effort to change.
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Nov 5, 2015 22:39
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Twiin posted:This is dumb. Two people don't absorb the same amount of calories from eating the same food. Some people produce more enzymes of one type than another, meaning any given food might have a higher or lower caloric availability. Some people's intestines are six feet longer than some other people's. People with mild lactose deficiencies get far fewer calories out of drinking milk. Then, different people expend different amounts of energy to actually process those different kinds of food. Some foods trigger a mild immune response during digestion due to pathogens, which costs more calories. There so many variables in play all the time. Okay, neat. Eat less (or different foods) if you're that much more efficient at getting energy out of your food, or more if you want to gain weight and your body sucks at processing food. Pay attention to your body and how it responds. The sort of physiological differences you're describing here don't typically amount to much more than a 200 calorie difference between individual BMRs, you know, and usually less than that.
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Nov 5, 2015 22:57
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vyelkin posted:Brannock you're not necessarily wrong about some of what you're saying but you're discounting a hell of a lot of genetic factors that kick in once a person does become significantly overweight (obese) that make it incredibly difficult to return to a normal weight, and virtually impossible to return to a normal weight permanently. Those of us with good genes or who have never been overweight often try to make a connection between "I put on 20 pounds once and then worked it off by eating healthier and working out, so why can't 300 pound people do the same thing on a larger scale?" but it's really not that simple. To be honest I can think of quite a few other societal problems typically left up to individuals to fix that require a similar source-focused approach -- energy conservation, reduction in waste and pollution, and so on. But yes, you're right and I'll concede that once people cross that threshold of obesity the game changes entirely, sadly. All the better reason to discourage it from happening in the first place. vyelkin posted:"it will absolutely work for an individual as long as that individual is honest with themselves and honest in their effort to change" is not exactly true though. There are a lot of intersecting factors that go on when someone is trying to lose weight - not least the sabotage and rejection from their peers. And even aside from that people are very practiced at deceiving themselves. You might be familiar with the show "Secret Eaters", or with the fad diet industry? A 2% success rate across all obese people who have tried to lose weight doesn't mean that someone tackling the problem with genuine effort and real diet and lifestyle changes has a 2% chance of succeeding. I don't have much more to say on the topic. Thanks for the responses, vyelkin and Helsing, I appreciated them. edit: Baronjutter posted:Destroy car culture, massive investment in bike and pedestrian infrastructure, mandatory high school cooking classes. Save massive amounts of money on health care costs while also saving people money and making them happier. A man after my heart!
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Nov 5, 2015 23:31
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Junk food isn't cheaper than real food.* Junk food requires a lot of processing which is added "value" and their prices reflect that. It's perceived as cheaper because Westerners are incredibly incapable of cooking for themselves, or else too lazy to. This makes the price issue a lot more complicated. It is, however, much cheaper to drink water than it is to drink soda, and it is much cheaper to eat full meals than snacking on Doritos and Pringles. *: http://drhyman.com/blog/2010/08/13/why-eating-quick-cheap-food-is-actually-more-expensive/ *: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/12/05/eating-healthy-vs-unhealthy_n_4383633.html (I'd find more on this but the conversation is incredibly muddled, to say the least) Twiin posted:Obesity (along with smoking and alcohol) actually lower healthcare costs because people die sooner. The cost of treating obesity-related diseases is less than the cost of ongoing healthcare and treating non-obesity diseases that will come up and eventually kill people in those extra years they live. This is a garbage fat-acceptance argument. Part of why obese people are cheaper and why they die earlier (other than the severe health issues they incur by being obese, of course) is because medicine has taken a while to catch up to handling the sudden explosion in fats. Not only are more people than ever obese, they're also more severely obese than they have ever been in history. Many hospitals and clinics just simply were not equipped to handle the behemoths that waddle through their doors or onto their operating tables. We have been actually unable to help save those people from themselves, so they've died early. Now, much like how many diseases have had significantly improved life prognoses compared to a century ago ... Medicine, being a profession where you try to help people regardless of what they've done to themselves, have made significant strides in treating the obese. They will live longer and longer now that we're better at keeping them alive, and they will cost colossally more than normal healthy people. Further, even if people were dying younger and earlier thanks to obesity and this made them cheaper, the fact that obesity is exploding across all demographics means that there are that many more dead young people who can't work and can't provide the necessary manpower and economic productivity to keep a nationalized healthcare system sustainable and solvent. If you look at countries suffering demographic crises you can see what happens when there isn't a sufficiently large cohort of young workers to prop up their healthcare and welfare systems. Finally, the claim that obese people cost less in the healthcare system doesn't take in account all the other incurred costs and losses to society in sick days, overconsumption, reduced productivity, and increased stress over their lifetimes. Also, vyelkin posted:Suicide is also a net benefit to healthcare spending, that doesn't mean we shouldn't have suicide prevention efforts. Brannock fucked around with this message at 02:49 on Nov 6, 2015 |
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Nov 6, 2015 02:47
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Also, at least in America, healthcare costs for normal healthy people are exorbitant because we try to keep the geriatrics alive for as long as possible even when it means a vastly reduced quality-of-life experience. Keeping your nonagenarian grandma alive another 8 months but bedridden and in severe pain costs gargantuan amounts of cash (as well as familial stress and anguish) compared to letting her pass peacefully. This, as you can imagine, skews the numbers pretty wildly when you start talking about total-cost-to-the-health-system numbers for smokers and the obese and such. The Western attitude towards death and dying is really hosed up, to the point that many doctors have resolved to let themselves pass on instead of subjecting themselves to the near-torture Western medicine puts people through. Fortunately this seems to be going through the beginnings of a cultural shift the last few years, with the increased acceptance of euthanasia.
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Nov 6, 2015 02:53
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http://www.theglobeandmail.com/sports/more-sports/pan-am-games-within-24-billion-budget-ontario-government-says/article27128619/quote:In total, the province estimates the Games cost $2.423 billion and brought in $175 million, including $36 million in ticket sales. Please stop hosting athletic boondoggles, Canada.
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Nov 6, 2015 06:19
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$2.4 billion directly spent on infrastructure and transit would have brought in far more than $175 million dollars.
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Nov 6, 2015 07:46
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cowofwar posted:Everyone knows that the CPC and LPC are on the same page when it comes to business, industry and finance. LPC just gives more lip service and foreplay before pegging. What grade are you in?
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Nov 6, 2015 18:03
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Canada's PM to be nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize It's not who you think! quote:B’nai Brith Canada has announced that it will nominate Canada’s Prime Minister, Stephen Harper, for the Nobel Peace prize.
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Nov 6, 2015 18:57
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My friend is slowly losing the vision in his eye and Canadian healthcare doesn't cover the surgery needed to correct it. It'll run him something above five thousand dollars to pay for the procedure. He can't afford it for a while yet so has to live with decaying and double/triple vision, among other things. If Canadian healthcare can cover it for refugees why not for Canadian citizens?
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Nov 8, 2015 18:15
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I really wonder how these people formulate their worldviews. It's just so completely backwards from how we generally see it. Where are they getting their info? Even conservative media were calling for Harper to step down by the end of the election.
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Nov 11, 2015 01:34
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Is there any disciplinary or punitive processes in place for terrible judges like these, aside from the Judicial Council tut-tutting at them?Cultural Imperial posted:lol if you think Blind Sally posted:lol if you think Sedge and Bee posted:lol if you think Baloogan posted:lol if u think Don't make me go and dig through the previous thread to find more instances of this 
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Nov 11, 2015 20:17
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CLAM DOWN posted:http://news.nationalpost.com/full-comment/robyn-urback-justin-trudeaus-pdas-are-making-things-uncomfortable-for-some-of-us Are they running out of ammo already for JT?
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Nov 12, 2015 22:01
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vyelkin posted:The sheer irony of a Liberal named Trudeau sweeping to power and undoing everything Harper did is somehow so delicious that it makes up for the fact that the Libs will eventually Lib. While I'm familiar with the history of the Liberals, I'm curious what (or whether) you see in those letters that suggest to you that the Libs are gonna Lib this time around.
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Nov 13, 2015 21:59
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I was asking specifically about the letters since that was what people were immediately reacting to when I had posted, but I do appreciate the breakdown of the monied interests in the Liberal party, Helsing. I didn't realize that it went that deep. Thank you.
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Nov 13, 2015 22:47
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bunnyofdoom posted:Well guys if you need a little faith I did get an email from someone begging us to stay the course with the refugees because they are fleeing this violence not the ones perpetrating it. France has taken in 500 only partly because refugees are avoiding France in favor of other EU nations. I'd love to see Canada take in as many Syrian refugees as they reasonably can while keeping the process stable. Take them in, show them the wonders of a secular nation and Western living, disperse them evenly throughout the cities and don't let them coalesce into ghettos, turn them into good and loyal Canadian citizens.
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Nov 14, 2015 19:02
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Liberals perform exactly as we all expected them to. We were right not to trust them!
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Nov 17, 2015 04:28
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Is this prosecutable in any way?
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Nov 20, 2015 18:21
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Cultural appropriation is a garbage idea and so are these people who shut down the program for progressive cred.
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Nov 21, 2015 18:36
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