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kingturnip
Apr 18, 2008
I'll be honest, not a fan of the way Jumping/Natural Fitness swap places between the full Player Attributes screen and the mouse-over preview.
If it was intentional, it's poo poo design, and if it's an error, it's really lazy.

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kingturnip
Apr 18, 2008
I remember having a striker in a version of FM years ago who was completely hot and cold. On a good day, he'd get 12-15 Dribbles and a couple of goals each game. I think his record was something like 21 Dribbles in one game.
When he wasn't playing well, he was utterly hopeless.
Over the course of a season, he got 20-25 goals with an average rating of 7.1 or something.

kingturnip
Apr 18, 2008

Masonity posted:

I always like to train players in the role I expect them to one day fill. The only exception is strikers who I tend to train in poacher while I use the complete forward role. Mostly because I want them involved in play but when it comes to attributes poacher is your bog standard goalscorer. And with only one man up front I need those to be right whatever he's doing on the pitch.

I find training young strikers in the Poacher role means they improve the most important attributes - Finishing, Composure, Pace, Acceleration.
For a good team, if I can get those up to ~13, then I'll start looking at specialising the player further.

kingturnip
Apr 18, 2008

sassassin posted:

Pace doesn't matter, the difference between pace 1 and 20 is tiny. Acceleration, strength and composure are probably combining well for him.

Erm, I've got a guy with 20 Pace and 7 Acceleration and when he gets going, he's the loving Roadrunner.

kingturnip
Apr 18, 2008
Player falls over in training and gets a blood clot. Out for 5 months.
Just as well he was a Bosman, eh?

kingturnip
Apr 18, 2008
That's still probably fair, though. Leicester have done well this season not by having the best players, but by being very tactically organised.
Whereas Liverpool (and Man City, although lol at Raheem Sterling) probably have better technical players man-for-man, but often don't have the faintest idea what each other is doing.

You could argue that FM should reflect that players with better tactical awareness are 'better' overall. Of course, if SI did that, you'd be able to hear the whining from space.

kingturnip
Apr 18, 2008
The Belgian Cup final got postponed a couple of times because some idiot thought that having it during an International week was a good idea.
Anyway, in his press conference before the game, the manager of our opposition decided to comment on how unworthy we were for praise - pure luck, apparently, that we'd got so far. I guess the way we'd already clinched the Belgian League title with half a dozen games remaining was pretty lucky. And the way we'd made our way to the Champions League Quarter-Finals? Also lucky.

Unfortunately, by having the game postponed twice, it meant that my weekend squad - the ones who only lost one league match all season - would NOT be the ones facing his team. Rather, it would be midweek XI that had made it to the Champions League QFs and won at least half of our Cup games, who would be playing the game.

Good try, opposition manager. But you're worse at mind games than Kevin Keegan.

kingturnip
Apr 18, 2008


Yes, that certainly was a game.
For reference, their goals was a dubious penalty when we were 7-0 up.

kingturnip
Apr 18, 2008
My squad has basically two teams - one for midweek, one for weekend. Midweek is for the better guys, for clowning Real Madrid in the CL; weekend is for the youngsters or developing players.
My weekend DR - whose status is Hot Prospect - has come to me twice by mid-November complaining about not playing enough. He's good, but he's not "Yeah, I'll put up with your bitching" good. Off with you, you little poo poo.

kingturnip
Apr 18, 2008
I go 4-4-2, with two W(A), a BWM(S) and an AP(A) and then striker roles that fit the players - usually AF(A)/CF(A) and a CF(S).
Play Attacking, with a Fairly Deep defensive line, looking for overlaps and playing out from the back.

I'm dominating in the league at the moment, so if nothing happens in the first 10 minutes, I max out Width. If nothing in the next 8, I set Closing Down to ALWAYS on the opposition defence (plus Keeper) and if still nothing after 8-9 minutes more, max out Closing Down. If it's all-square at half-time and the referee isn't a massive poo poo, I'll also go for 'Get Stuck In'. That combination usually makes something happen.

The main thing with this is to have a good AP and a fast AF/CF with good movement, so the AP can ping balls over the top for the quick guy to run onto.

kingturnip
Apr 18, 2008
QFs of the Champions League and Barcelosa had a bit of a shocker

kingturnip
Apr 18, 2008


Meet my First Team (as of today)
We're gonna need a bigger Inbox






Also: :fuckoff:

kingturnip
Apr 18, 2008


Good grief.

kingturnip
Apr 18, 2008
We were drawn against Sydney FC in the World Club Championship Final.
The days of sending the kids are long over, since the First Xi players bitch and moan if they're not selected. It wasn't the greatest match ever but it was succesful

kingturnip
Apr 18, 2008
One of my 'rotation' strikers has spent the last 9 months listening to the media saying he should be dropped.



It might only be the Faroe Islands, but I'm fairly sure scoring 7 in a game to make your overall record 21 goals in 18 games makes you close to undroppable.

kingturnip
Apr 18, 2008
You can get away with a 442 if you've got good players. Defend Deep, with Attacking mentality, look for overlaps and hope to hell your Full Backs can get back if you lose possession.
My Wingers score 0.4 goals/game because Back Post defending is still terrible, and my main goalscorers get about 0.8 goals/game, more than that if they're excellent.

kingturnip
Apr 18, 2008

Waroduce posted:

I thought 4-4-2 was basically dead irl

It's all them forren coaches coming over here, stealing our formations.

kingturnip
Apr 18, 2008
tbh, mine works pretty well, too.

kingturnip
Apr 18, 2008
Just had to play a Pro League match despite having 14 first-team players on international duty, including 4 strikers. Great stuff.

kingturnip
Apr 18, 2008
Thought I'd check out how World Cup 2026 was getting on in my game:



lol

kingturnip
Apr 18, 2008
I've got a guy in my team who scores more than 9/10 penalties.
Of course, he's in my Saturday squad, so if I get a penalty during a midweek game, gently caress knows which loser will miss that one. I had a left-back who scored a fair few, mind you.

kingturnip
Apr 18, 2008
Had a look at how the other Belgian teams are doing in Europe and...


Top of the group, and qualified with a game to go, while Barcelona have to hope Gent don't lose to Leverkusen in the last match of the group stages.

kingturnip
Apr 18, 2008
I have scored a few goals from the ball rebounding straight off a striker as he closes a GK down. But then, I also often play with specific Opposition instructions to close down GKs, which demonstrably works, so I'm not sure 'Stop Short Distribution' does a lot.

As for tactics and Player Instructions, I don't think any of my players have specific instructions set. Mostly because I play a 4-4-2 and that means that you kind of need players to be roughly in their part of the pitch to give whoever has the ball some options. I think in the past I've tried fiddling with 'Cross Low', but never really noticed the difference on Key highlights, and now I've got strikers who can jump and head the ball, so there's no point.

kingturnip
Apr 18, 2008
One of my guys did. After about 5 years of trying. The moron.

kingturnip
Apr 18, 2008
I just went 4-4-2 and, despite not having any genuine wingers, have won my last three games 3-0, 4-1, 4-0.
I've signed a couple of wingers 'cos why not if I'm going down this rabbithole.

kingturnip
Apr 18, 2008
My team (Rostock) are 2nd in the German Second Division.
Arminia Bielefeld, bottom of the German Second Division, offer me an interview, apropos of nothing.

Erm, gently caress off, losers.

kingturnip
Apr 18, 2008
A scout recommends a Bosnian DL. Says I could get him for £150k - £425k. I stick my Director of Football on the job and he gets the deal done for £61k. Good work, scout.

kingturnip
Apr 18, 2008

eleven extra elephants posted:

I don't think I've ever had my DoF successfully negotiate a transfer, who are you using?

This guy


I've got Fake Players turned on and this is a few seasons in, so he's just a random dude.
It surprised me as well. My transfer budget is woeful and I wasn't convinced I'd be able to negotiate them down enough, which is why I let my DoF go for it. I might delegate more, if he's going to be this useful.

kingturnip
Apr 18, 2008
My best-performing DC was signed on a promise of improving the coaching team, which I ended up not being able to do because the board decided to be intransigent assholes about having 2 coaching vacancies.
So, the DC has a whine about it and I agree to try to sell him. I put him on the transfer list and offer him out. No-one bites. He's still my best DC, so I think "To hell with it" and keep picking him for games.
The end of the season comes around, he's got a year left on his contract and an asking price that isn't exactly generous, while not being steep for a proven second-tier DC (£1.5m in Germany), but still no takers, except on loan. The transfer window ends and he pitches a fit complaining about me not trying to sell him and drags my rear end in a top hat Captain into the argument. The day after I signed another DC.

gently caress off already.

kingturnip
Apr 18, 2008
My team just hit the woodwork 6 times in one match.
Thankfully it was a friendly match. I'm hoping that's the bad luck out of the way for a while.

kingturnip
Apr 18, 2008


Not the most tempting offer I've ever seen.

kingturnip
Apr 18, 2008
There's something very satisfying about watching Bayern poo poo the bed in real-time.
Not least because it stopped them wrecking my title bid:

kingturnip
Apr 18, 2008
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8OCjdBr4O2c

kingturnip
Apr 18, 2008
In fairness to SI, a good portion of their fan base are computer-illiterate and/or play the game on crappy PCs, laptops or tablets.
Do we really think that SI and Creative Assembly, between them, could come up with a way of rendering stadiums to an acceptable degree of simulation that wouldn't drive half their users' computers into the ground every matchday?

I mean, there are still plenty of people who play in 2D, and even a few hardy souls on Commentary-only.

kingturnip
Apr 18, 2008

There was a player with Hamilton Academicals a few years back who was given a Surinam 2nd nationality for some reason (possibly for a joke) in the game.

kingturnip
Apr 18, 2008

Jason Sextro posted:

I can't remember if I've asked this question before, but in FM17 are world-class newgens and regens weighted more towards attacking roles? It seems like sometimes I go years without there being a world-class centre-back coming up anywhere in the entire world.

I think that, because Defenders generally come into their own later than attackers, it's just a case of having to wait longer for them.
And, of course, descriptions of players are heavily weighted by reputation. A 'World Class' defender is probably just a good defender at a club that's had lots of success.

kingturnip
Apr 18, 2008
Also, it'll probably be balanced around top tier leagues and big clubs within those leagues where 'player power' is perhaps more of an issue.

kingturnip
Apr 18, 2008
The guy presenting the videos looks like the kind of person I'd leave a pub to avoid.

If I ever went outside

kingturnip
Apr 18, 2008
I think I might have found the holy grail: a genuine potentially-talented Mongolian player.



My scout gave him 3 stars for Potential, which my Coaches are backing up now that he's signed for us.
For context, 3 stars would be 'Good for German Budesliga'. I'll be ditching this game for FM18 long before he's ready for the First Team, but who cares.

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kingturnip
Apr 18, 2008
I don't know who Joe Tomlinson is, but for FM19, I think I'd rather they go with someone who has no enthusiasm or perceptible interest in the game to present their videos on new features.
Like Jack Dee. Spend some money, SI.

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