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Silver Nitrate
Oct 17, 2005

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Am I reading this wrong or did Fish and Wildlife get funding and authority to operate internationally?

https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-congress/house-bill/2494/text

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Silver Nitrate
Oct 17, 2005

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So a thing happened in north Minneapolis in Minnesota. Police shot a man that at least a couple of witnesses say was handcuffed. Right now there are a bunch of people setting up tents to camp out at the precinct until they release the video of what happened.

Silver Nitrate
Oct 17, 2005

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Wally Joyner posted:

North Minneapolis has been plagued for years by severe inequality, and this isn't the first time charges of brutality or racism were made toward the MPD. I believe Harteau made the push for body-cameras (against the Police union) and increasing the relationship with the community, so it will be interesting to see how the investigation is handled.

Yeah I'm watching this closely too. North Minneapolis is one of the worst neighborhoods and MPD is seriously nasty.

When my friend was homeless, he said that several times when MPD would show up to clear people out of an alley they did it by walking up to them and hitting the sleeping people with batons.

Silver Nitrate
Oct 17, 2005

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Swan Oat posted:

Paul Ryan is an evil motherfucker, and a reptile.

Reptiles lack the part of the brain that does evil, they act on instinct alone. You're thinking of a human or maybe a porpoise. They're nasty fuckers.

Silver Nitrate
Oct 17, 2005

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So far all of the positively identified attackers were European, correct?

Silver Nitrate
Oct 17, 2005

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Your Dunkle Sans posted:

Wild baseless speculation, but what would happen if state authorities went "no, gently caress YOU dad!" and tried to forcefully prevent refugees from settling in their states a la George Wallace blocking the doors of the University of Alabama in 1963?

I would loving cry.

Silver Nitrate
Oct 17, 2005

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In Minneapolis news: Police attempted to clear protesters from the precinct and succeeded in having three times as many people show up. At some point there was pepper spray and rubber bullets but the police backed off.

While being interviewed by a livestreamer, one of the local news reporters was pepper sprayed by police through a chain link fence. MPD immediately put out a tweet saying that the protesters are pepper spraying themselves.

Seems to be at a really tense stalemate.

Edit: now the police are poking protesters with a stick through the chain link fence.

Silver Nitrate
Oct 17, 2005

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Police cleared the area in front of the contested chain link fence and now there are a bunch of bicycle cops with their bikes making a wall. Probably a good de-escalation move because bring out out the riot gear would not go well.

Edit: just kidding the riot gear guys snuck out being them.

Silver Nitrate
Oct 17, 2005

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My Imaginary GF posted:

Is this in Minneapolis?

Yeah, the riot gear guys went back inside. Guess they didn't like how the crowd reacted to them. Still pretty tense.

Silver Nitrate
Oct 17, 2005

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MPD has started using tear gas. It's probably going to end poorly now.

Silver Nitrate
Oct 17, 2005

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I think that the RNC riot is a big part of why they haven't cracked down hardcore yet.

Silver Nitrate
Oct 17, 2005

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Epic High Five posted:

Freedom of assembly comes to mind, had the crowd done anything illegal that would warrant being gassed?

Did a video of the shooting ever come out?

They've been blockading the police station all day. Nothing violent (sans a few rocks thrown at unoccupied, parked police cars) though.

The whole reason for the protest is to have the video released. From what the authorities say, it isn't conclusive. Also, the investigators are trying to figure out if he was cuffed or if the handcuffs on the ground fell out of someone's pocket. It's kind of a cluster gently caress.

Edit: It seems to have calmed down for the night, thankfully. There were a few really tense moments.

Silver Nitrate
Oct 17, 2005

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For anyone who is interested: BLM Minneapolis is planning a protest at the precinct for 5pm today and national some NAACP people will be attending. Probably going to get some good speeches.

Silver Nitrate
Oct 17, 2005

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Got back from protests in Minneapolis a little while ago. Everyone was very nice, people were going around with extra cold weather gear and hand warmers. I also got to see a US Congressman.

Apparently the idiot anarchists are back in town and caused some problems last night.

Silver Nitrate
Oct 17, 2005

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LiterallyTheWurst posted:

I have to ask, did they wear skinny jeans and scream about fasicts the entire time? There was a group of them in ND for the Leith neo-nazi protests not long ago. They kept trying to egg people on until the swat team came right between the protestors and the nazis.

Nah they just threw some molotovs over the fence into the parking lot last night. Only saw one guy with a stupid mask today and one guy holding a "NO NWO" sign so I don't think there are a lot of em.

Silver Nitrate
Oct 17, 2005

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Meg From Family Guy posted:

Do you really think that US intervention in Libya did anyone except militant groups any good? If so, you and I just have different views on what is and isn't acceptable intervention consequences.

He was about send his army door-to-door to kill a metric fuckload of people.

Silver Nitrate
Oct 17, 2005

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What is the thread title from?

Silver Nitrate
Oct 17, 2005

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Oh my god those poor people :( I don't know what is going to happen now, but this will be a turning point.

Edit to add more info:

According to protesters white supremacists showed up, started causing problems. They were made to leave and people followed them to make sure they were leaving. Two people shot, one in the leg, one in the stomach. Police looking for the shooters, think they might be wearing bullet proof vests.

Silver Nitrate fucked around with this message at 06:41 on Nov 24, 2015

Silver Nitrate
Oct 17, 2005

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I live in the Twin Cities, this will definitely be a turning point in race relations here. Minnesota has so much racial inequality and bullshit and we just pretend it doesn't exist. Can't do that anymore.

Silver Nitrate
Oct 17, 2005

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According to some article I read, one person from the group of dickheads that shot at the BLM people is in custody.

Silver Nitrate
Oct 17, 2005

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Zeroisanumber posted:

MPD tweeted out that they picked one of them up in Bloomington and are looking for the others. 23-year old white male so he's about to become /pol/'s newest hero.

Second suspect picked up.

"2nd suspect in shooting near 4th PCT arrested in S Mpls at 1205pm. 32y/o Hispanic male. Search for addl' suspects continues."

Silver Nitrate
Oct 17, 2005

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Livestream of BLM march in Minneapolis. Just started at 2.

http://livestream.com/unicornriot/events/4512162

Silver Nitrate
Oct 17, 2005

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BetterToRuleInHell posted:

Are the building a giant bonfire?

Nah, that's just wood for the fire pits to keep the protesters warm. It's cold here.

Silver Nitrate
Oct 17, 2005

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Fried Chicken posted:

NAACP alleges cops 'behind' last night's shooting in Minnesota, says they have video of undercover cops leaving scene

Prediction: truth or not all this amounts to is a line used by conservatives to dismiss the incident

The video they're referencing was from a few days ago and it looks sketchy as gently caress. Guy comes in, causes problems, is calmly escorted out and gets into the car with someone who looks to be wearing a police uniform. Granted he could be a dog catcher or a really dressed up plumber or something but the video is not exactly inconsistent with that. :/

It wouldn't surprise me if the video shows a cop's buddy going to be a dick to the protesters.

Silver Nitrate
Oct 17, 2005

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Nonsense posted:

Why are you talking about network television shows? It's like hearing people anticipating a Shyamalan flick.

Amazon is a network?

Silver Nitrate
Oct 17, 2005

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pathetic little tramp posted:

Or it was the 4channers who posted themselves talking about /pol/, brandishing a gun, and saying they were going to go to the protest:

https://www.facebook.com/BlackLivesMatterMinneapolis/videos/1010885932288533/?theater

They actually went and sketched people out a few days ago. Interviewed one of the live streamers talking about how the fire was starting and they wanted to watch the flames or something.

Edit: One of the guys is around the 14 minute mark
http://livestream.com/accounts/12767816/events/4512162/videos/105011019/player

Silver Nitrate
Oct 17, 2005

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Evil Fluffy posted:

Isn't the head of the police union in a(n alleged) white supremacist motorcycle club, or was that another city?

Yeah that's Minneapolis.

Silver Nitrate
Oct 17, 2005

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Torpor posted:

That may just hand the white supremacists a get out of jail free card; it would also explain the "you asked for it" comment. Not that a cop saying "you asked for it" in that situation was professional or anything, but "rushing" and punching repeatedly some guys doing nothing but standing there video taping and then chasing them down is a good way to get shot.

In Minnesota you can't pick a fight and then shoot the person you picked a fight with. Duty to retreat and all.

Much less fire wildly at a group of people.

Silver Nitrate
Oct 17, 2005

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My Imaginary GF posted:

Sounds like they did retreat, were being pummeled on, and ended up cornered in an alleyway. What more could those three individuals have done?

Also thank you to the posters earlier who recommended some places to eat in Duluth. I may give a tripreport to chatthread this month on how it goes.

They were not cornered in an alley. It happened on a residential street. O.o

Silver Nitrate
Oct 17, 2005

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Just heard "one victim near the _____________________, not viable" announced on the scanner. :(

Silver Nitrate
Oct 17, 2005

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eHarmony: for when you're worried about a terrorist attack but also lonely.

Silver Nitrate
Oct 17, 2005

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TFW you get a sick BearCat from DHS to fight terrorism and have to use it against your own citizens.

Silver Nitrate
Oct 17, 2005

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CommieGIR posted:

Well, he's white, so he's a lone wolf or someone with a mental illness.

At what point does extreme right wing conservatism become a mental illness instead of a political ideology.

When you pick up a gun and start shooting people :v:

Silver Nitrate
Oct 17, 2005

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According to the scanner, this guy has an AK. :/

Silver Nitrate
Oct 17, 2005

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Is this a PP that does abortion? Because some of those have secure entries with metal detectors and stuff. Or is this just a regular PP and he's a loving shitbag who doesn't know the difference?

Silver Nitrate
Oct 17, 2005

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Two dead, including one cop. :(


http://m.nydailynews.com/news/crime...n=NYDailyNewsTw

Silver Nitrate
Oct 17, 2005

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Geokinesis posted:

I mean like family planning/sexual health stuff, contraceptives/smears/sti tests etc, are there clinics attached to hospitals that cover these too? As I saw that the majority of PP is in fact stuff like that.

A lot of general doctors cover them, but PP will do it for free/very cheap if you don't have money or insurance.

Silver Nitrate
Oct 17, 2005

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Kobayashi posted:

I don't know, I thought Fiorina tying the shooter to Black Lives Matter was a pretty impressive feat of false equivalency.

I want to see this, link please?

Silver Nitrate
Oct 17, 2005

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This baby parts selling talking point is such bullshit. It costs me $50+ dollars to shop a snake cross country and none of the packaging needs to be medically sterile or as carefully temperature controlled.

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Silver Nitrate
Oct 17, 2005

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Luigi Thirty posted:

The Hennepin County PD announced that the four white supremacists who shot into the crowd are each being charged with "rioting with a deadly weapon" while the triggerman netted an additional three counts of felony assault with bodily harm.

Five counts of assault. Everything is second degree too.

Federal hate crime charges could be coming still but I'm not holding my breath.

http://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2015/11/30/charges-possible-against-4-men-in-4th-precinct-protest-shooting/

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