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Laserface
Dec 24, 2004

User experience. It's way cooler having album art and poo poo on a full colour hi res display than text.

I mean iPhone has small icons in a list so I don't know what the gently caress android is doing but it sounds terrible.

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GreatGreen
Jul 3, 2007
That's not what gaslighting means you hyperbolic dipshit.

The General posted:

Why does every smart phone music app insist on showing me giant rear end buttons for all my albums. Why yes, I want to see only 4 albums at a time on my giant rear end phone.

What happened to lists? Did people forget how to read? Do we really need giant rear end retard buttons?

Wave of the future baby!

You don't want lists and actual useability, that's dumb. Here, I'll tell you what you want. You want big flashy colors and cool graphics so you can impress the stranger who might happen to see your phone from over your shoulder while you're dicking around on it at Starbucks!

Cool!

CJacobs
Apr 17, 2011

Reach for the moon!

The General posted:

Why does every smart phone music app insist on showing me giant rear end buttons for all my albums. Why yes, I want to see only 4 albums at a time on my giant rear end phone.

What happened to lists? Did people forget how to read? Do we really need giant rear end retard buttons?

It's because phones got rid of real buttons in place of lovely touch screen technology, and so you have to make every clickable thing really big so humans can easily press it with their fat inaccurate fingers.

edit: but even then it'll only work about 75% of the time or so. My favorite thing about smart phones is when someone taps something on the screen and it doesn't register, so they tap it again but harder while moving their head cock-eyed toward the screen as if to say "uhhh hello??"

CJacobs fucked around with this message at 18:19 on Mar 20, 2016

Uthor
Jul 9, 2006

Gummy Bear Heaven ... It's where I go when the world is too mean.
I like the big album art, but I hate artist photos. I don't know what most artists that I listen to look like, so their images don't help me find anything.

What I hate about Google Play Music is that it prioritizes streaming over your library. I search for an artist and get the artist page and related artists, streaming albums, single tracks, then my library. No, Google, I want MY stuff first.

Marmaduke!
May 19, 2009

Why would it do that!?

CJacobs posted:

It's because phones got rid of real buttons in place of lovely touch screen technology, and so you have to make every clickable thing really big so humans can easily press it with their fat inaccurate fingers.

edit: but even then it'll only work about 75% of the time or so. My favorite thing about smart phones is when someone taps something on the screen and it doesn't register, so they tap it again but harder while moving their head cock-eyed toward the screen as if to say "uhhh hello??"

Like with one of the Android screens on my phone, there's big buttons to turn on/off Wi-fi and Airplane mode next to each other. Which is fine, but if you want to change the Wi-fi setting, like, to choose a new Wi-fi network, there's a tiny additional ... button between the two big buttons which you need to click accurately. I don't have fat fingers at all, but it's probably about a 50-50 chance of hitting the ... or just switching to Airplane mode. An almost anatomical level of trolling from the developers there.

Shadow
Jun 25, 2002

Nutsngum posted:

Everything you just listed are retarded idiot reasons only babies would worry about.

Its okay, Trump will bring back the gold standard and allow you to sign in crayons if you want to.

lol

Shadow
Jun 25, 2002

Uthor posted:

I like the big album art, but I hate artist photos. I don't know what most artists that I listen to look like, so their images don't help me find anything.

What I hate about Google Play Music is that it prioritizes streaming over your library. I search for an artist and get the artist page and related artists, streaming albums, single tracks, then my library. No, Google, I want MY stuff first.

I'll be honest, what I miss most is the album art in general. I miss opening up the new CD (or tape!) and flipping through the album art/lyrics/pictures/poems/whatever that they'd have. Metallica or Nine Inch Nails were the best for this. Also Rob Zombie of course. Tool.

I wish I could see more than the drat cover. :(

Uthor
Jul 9, 2006

Gummy Bear Heaven ... It's where I go when the world is too mean.

Shadow posted:

I'll be honest, what I miss most is the album art in general. I miss opening up the new CD (or tape!) and flipping through the album art/lyrics/pictures/poems/whatever that they'd have. Metallica or Nine Inch Nails were the best for this. Also Rob Zombie of course. Tool.

I wish I could see more than the drat cover. :(

Certain albums come with additional digital booklet PDFs that I look through once before archiving and forgetting about. :)

Not to be an analog music vinyl hipster purist, but that's why I've started buying records for the stuff I'm really excited for. I still listen to most of my music digitally, but sometimes it's nice to handle the physical object.

Ewan
Sep 29, 2008

Ewan is tired of his reputation as a serious Simon. I'm more of a jokester than you people think. My real name isn't even Ewan, that was a joke it's actually MARTIN! LOL fooled you again, it really is Ewan! Look at that monkey with a big nose, Ewan is so random! XD

CJacobs posted:

It's because phones got rid of real buttons in place of lovely touch screen technology, and so you have to make every clickable thing really big so humans can easily press it with their fat inaccurate fingers.

edit: but even then it'll only work about 75% of the time or so. My favorite thing about smart phones is when someone taps something on the screen and it doesn't register, so they tap it again but harder while moving their head cock-eyed toward the screen as if to say "uhhh hello??"
Jesus. Either you have mutant beast fingers or you've used some really lovely phones. I'm using a £75 lovely store-brand Android at the moment and it's totally fine.

ANIME IS BLOOD
Sep 4, 2008

by zen death robot

Uthor posted:

I like the big album art, but I hate artist photos. I don't know what most artists that I listen to look like, so their images don't help me find anything.

What I hate about Google Play Music is that it prioritizes streaming over your library. I search for an artist and get the artist page and related artists, streaming albums, single tracks, then my library. No, Google, I want MY stuff first.

that's mean of you, how will they gather more data on your tastes to target ads at you then? :(

RideTheSpiral
Sep 18, 2005
College Slice
goodluck anyone that wants to rewind a podcast by a minute on an iphone. cracking piece of design.

spiky butthole
May 5, 2014
Spotify let's you do lists and whatnot as I tend to not really pay attention to album art.

Riot Bimbo
Dec 28, 2006


Laserface posted:

I have 3 cards, with my most frequently used one in the front sleeve. it takes .5 of a second to remove it.

I guess the bad design that makes me furious is dumb loving americans?

Try propagating new technology that requires people to learn how to do a thing differently, that takes longer than the less secure swipe and sign/enter pin method.

To 300,000,000 people.

You get this thing called backlash, and it makes even sensible things difficult. People poo poo their loving pants when facebook slightly changes their layout you think they're gonna be 100% chill with being issued new cards that have new procedures that require you to stare at the ugly cashier for too many more seconds than used to be necessary?

Andrast
Apr 21, 2010


hemophilia posted:

Try propagating new technology that requires people to learn how to do a thing differently, that takes longer than the less secure swipe and sign/enter pin method.

To 300,000,000 people.

You get this thing called backlash, and it makes even sensible things difficult. People poo poo their loving pants when facebook slightly changes their layout you think they're gonna be 100% chill with being issued new cards that have new procedures that require you to stare at the ugly cashier for too many more seconds than used to be necessary?

Europeans managed to do it just fine.

Riot Bimbo
Dec 28, 2006


Andrast posted:

Europeans managed to do it just fine.

You may not have noticed this but americans are... not very much like europeans.

MrQwerty
Apr 15, 2003

Kuato posted:

Hate women who are fat and ugly, why couldn't all women look like porn stars??? Why?!?!?!

Sometimes porn stars are both ugly and fat hth

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Apr 22, 2013

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Andrast posted:

Europeans managed to do it just fine.

Individual countries far smaller did, on an irregular schedule.

The EU, about the size/population of America, can't accomplish poo poo - except putting Roma beggars at every Nordic train station.

thathonkey
Jul 17, 2012
it's called schema folks. it's a good thing to respect when designing updates to existing products.

boom boom boom
Jun 28, 2012

by Shine

Andrast posted:

Europeans managed to do it just fine.

Europeans will put up with a lot of stupid terrible bullshit. Half you guys got absorbed by the Nazi empire.

RideTheSpiral
Sep 18, 2005
College Slice

boom boom boom posted:

Europeans will put up with a lot of stupid terrible bullshit. Half you guys got absorbed by the Nazi empire.

never heard of them

OXBALLS DOT COM
Sep 11, 2005

by FactsAreUseless
Young Orc

CJacobs posted:

It's because phones got rid of real buttons in place of lovely touch screen technology, and so you have to make every clickable thing really big so humans can easily press it with their fat inaccurate fingers.

edit: but even then it'll only work about 75% of the time or so. My favorite thing about smart phones is when someone taps something on the screen and it doesn't register, so they tap it again but harder while moving their head cock-eyed toward the screen as if to say "uhhh hello??"

Theres also the opposite where some tiny imperceptible brush from a finger or even on the edge from the hand just holding the phone (because there's no bezel) makes it freak out and switch away or do random poo poo

One reason buttons are superior to touch most of the time is that you can locate and correct your finger via touch without actually pressing the button.

I know there's pressure sensitive touchscreens now but retarded ui designers have decided that this is a great opportunity to make even more hidden unintuitive menus by making it a right-click menu instead of fixing the most annoying thing about capacitive touch.

The General
Mar 4, 2007


RideTheSpiral posted:

goodluck anyone that wants to rewind a podcast by a minute on an iphone. cracking piece of design.

Get a decent podcatcher. Most of them have a rewind by a bunch of seconds buttons. My current one is 10 seconds. Whatever I had on my iPhone was 30 seconds.

RideTheSpiral
Sep 18, 2005
College Slice

The General posted:

Get a decent podcatcher. Most of them have a rewind by a bunch of seconds buttons. My current one is 10 seconds. Whatever I had on my iPhone was 30 seconds.

yeah but im sick of have a million apps on my phone. why can't they just design their thing to do the only thing it does

boom boom boom
Jun 28, 2012

by Shine
oh yeah, on my Samsung phone, in the music player, if you press the icon that shows two intertwining arrows, that turns shuffle off. Pressing the icon with two intertwining arrows crossed out turns shuffle on.

DoctorTristan
Mar 11, 2006

I would look up into your lifeless eyes and wave, like this. Can you and your associates arrange that for me, Mr. Morden?

The General posted:

Get a decent podcatcher. Most of them have a rewind by a bunch of seconds buttons. My current one is 10 seconds. Whatever I had on my iPhone was 30 seconds.

The default podcast app has those too, as does the control panel that appears if you swipe up from the bottom of the screen...

criscodisco
Feb 18, 2004

do it

boom boom boom posted:

oh yeah, on my Samsung phone, in the music player, if you press the icon that shows two intertwining arrows, that turns shuffle off. Pressing the icon with two intertwining arrows crossed out turns shuffle on.

How is this wrong? Also, it says what function it's in right underneath the arrows, as in "shuffle on" or "shuffle off".

Burt Sexual
Jan 26, 2006

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Switchblade Switcharoo
Let me tell you about my toaster. I.....just..can't right now.

Olympic Mathlete
Feb 25, 2011

:h:


Y'know I've never fully understood the word 'podcast' it makes no sense.

boom boom boom
Jun 28, 2012

by Shine

criscodisco posted:

How is this wrong? Also, it says what function it's in right underneath the arrows, as in "shuffle on" or "shuffle off".

it doesn't say poo poo. just arrows

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



Soiled Meat

88h88 posted:

Y'know I've never fully understood the word 'podcast' it makes no sense.

It comes from the phrase "like two peas in a pod"

OXBALLS DOT COM
Sep 11, 2005

by FactsAreUseless
Young Orc

boom boom boom posted:

oh yeah, on my Samsung phone, in the music player, if you press the icon that shows two intertwining arrows, that turns shuffle off. Pressing the icon with two intertwining arrows crossed out turns shuffle on.

This is actually a real problem "flat" design has - it's hard to distinguish between things you interact with and things that just display information because buttons look the same as info panels

Uthor
Jul 9, 2006

Gummy Bear Heaven ... It's where I go when the world is too mean.

88h88 posted:

Y'know I've never fully understood the word 'podcast' it makes no sense.

From Wikipedia:

quote:

The word is a portmanteau of "(i)Pod" and "broadcast."

Learn something new!

Marmaduke!
May 19, 2009

Why would it do that!?

Mange Mite posted:

This is actually a real problem "flat" design has - it's hard to distinguish between things you interact with and things that just display information because buttons look the same as info panels

I sometimes get confused between the reply button on Twitter and the back button from my phone. I'd think I'm a bit stupid but I really don't see how so many posters here confuse quote and edit.

Burt Sexual
Jan 26, 2006

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Switchblade Switcharoo

Squalitude posted:

I sometimes get confused between the reply button on Twitter and the back button from my phone. I'd think I'm a bit stupid but I really don't see how so many posters here confuse quote and edit.

Yeah

Burt Sexual
Jan 26, 2006

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Switchblade Switcharoo

Squalitude posted:

I sometimes get confused between the reply button on Twitter and the back button from my phone. I'd think I'm a bit stupid but I really don't see how so many posters here confuse quote and edit.

Yeah

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



Soiled Meat

Uthor posted:

From Wikipedia:


Learn something new!

that seems very dubious, never trust wikipedia without researching the stuff independently

Shadow
Jun 25, 2002

Mange Mite posted:

This is actually a real problem "flat" design has - it's hard to distinguish between things you interact with and things that just display information because buttons look the same as info panels

Same with off and on button behavior. Does off mean turn it off or it's currently off? Status or trigger? A common UI issue.

For idiot bitchmade product designer who should be killed for even going with such a dumb concept.

Burt Sexual
Jan 26, 2006

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Switchblade Switcharoo

Shadow posted:

Same with off and on button behavior. Does off mean turn it off or it's currently off? Status or trigger? A common UI issue.

For idiot bitchmade product designer who should be killed for even going with such a dumb concept.

When my light switch is in the off position, I get confused.

Laserface
Dec 24, 2004

Phone cradles for cars that have those massive wings on either side of the device.

Like every single major phone on the market is less than 10mm thick. Having 30mm of rubber padding on the side is pointless as gently caress and as an added bonus, the cheaper ones tend to put the pads right next to the keyboard, meaning you cant easily get your finger to the edge of the screen.


For example:


Although this one is OK because it has an adjustable foot height, so you can make the wings sit above the keyboard by dropping the foot to its lowest point.

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D C
Jun 20, 2004

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Laserface posted:

Phone cradles for cars that have those massive wings on either side of the device.

Like every single major phone on the market is less than 10mm thick. Having 30mm of rubber padding on the side is pointless as gently caress and as an added bonus, the cheaper ones tend to put the pads right next to the keyboard, meaning you cant easily get your finger to the edge of the screen.


For example:


Although this one is OK because it has an adjustable foot height, so you can make the wings sit above the keyboard by dropping the foot to its lowest point.

Maybe dont use your phones keyboard while driving the car that the phone is mounted to?

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