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Night Lords players, a friend of mine has used these across his army. They've got a hand on them already so they're ideal for the new plastics.
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Hixson posted:Eh, those are pretty alright. I'm more excited about the special units, Magnus, and rules I love Thousand Sons, and yours are legit as gently caress. I just think those torsos are garbage 
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SRM posted:I beg to differ I mean sculpt quality wise. The Thousand Sons torsos are chapter house level of bad. The Iron Warriors stuff is pretty bland but at least the trim and iconography doesn't look like it was made out of playdough.
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Mango Polo posted:Hirst Arts molds + SketchUp, to plan how to build the ZM board. You make your own tiles and assemble them; in this case I copied the official layouts and made a couple of extra ones since otherwise on a full board you'd have duplicates. Do you have the BOM for this? Like, X of tile Y etc? 
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They call out grenade launchers and twin-linked grenade launchers specifically, so I don't think it being a grenade launcher with one shot flies.
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If I was thinking of starting up a Mechanicum force would I just need this? I picked up the first HH book at Games Day waaay back when it first dropped, before I finally gave up on GW - I'm assuming the base game rules in that are trash and out of date? EDIT: I've just seen the part of the description saying it has all the Age of Darkness rules. Problem solved.
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Nice, I'll grab that then. 
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Ok so I have a plan for a starter 30k army using nothing but Betrayal at Calth tactical squad kits from eBay. By my account I can use six kits to make this: [Tactical Squad] 1x Legion Sergeant 19x Legion Space Marine [Tactical Squad] 1x Legion Sergeant 19x Legion Space Marine [Tactical Support Squad] 1x Legion Sergeant 4x Legion Space Marine w/ plasma gun [Tactical Support Squad] 1x Legion Sergeant 4x Legion Space Marine w/ melta gun or flamer [Heavy Support Squad] 1x Legion Sergeant 4x Legion Space Marine w/ missile launcher [Heavy Support Squad] 1x Legion Sergeant 4x Legion Space Marine w/ heavy bolter Is any of that going to be entirely useless? I know the second support squad are bit meh with flamers or meltas but those are the weapons that come in the box.
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Safety Factor posted:One thing to note: Heavy support squad sergeants also get heavy weapons. I know it doesn't say that in book I, but it got updated later. Ok cool, I'll have six of each heavy and special weapon so I can arm Sgts too. I've already got a Deimos rhino, Sicaran and Xiphon so I can give the support squad a rhino if need be. Maybe I could pickup one of the resin special weapon packs I guess and go for a full ten man plasma squad
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BULBASAUR posted:As a core for your army? Looks great. You can make a lot of lists with those models. Depending on your legion of choice you can run different types of things. Support squads want to be in rhinos, deep struck, out flanked, or drop podded in. Apothecaries and some HQs won't hurt either. Yeah this is just a core to get things rolling really. I'm going to run Imperial Fists. I'm still figuring out what the HQs are, I think I'm going to go with a centurion or something to start with. The 1-3 apothecary unit is a good plan, but I'm wary of spending too many points on the troops blobs.
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Stanyer89 posted:Finishing up the Blood Angels Leviathan Dreadnought. Waiting for the base to get here still... That'll make a hell of a dent
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Stanyer89 posted:Good thing we ham at Hixson's house and not mine. We haven't had any trash talking from your group in this thread for a while. I hope you're saving it up.
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My five calth tactical squads have been posted by the eBay seller. I'm on my way. 
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Safety Factor posted:I am very likely extremely ignorant and talking out of my rear end while making poor decisions. Welcome to wargaming, friend.
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Ah, I thought that book was replacing the LACL book, but it looks like it just updates it? I don't get it. Do you start from the new book and just refer back as needed?
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So, tonight I've started to look at the plastic BAC tactical squads that I picked up. Looking at the instructions, it seems to indicate that torso back B13 can only go with front B11 and B12. Looking at the sprues, they look exactly the same as all the others. Am I missing something?
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Galaspar posted:The difference is very subtle - the segments of the chest hoses are a little bit larger than the others, and it follows on to that back piece. Not sure it was really worth making a different back for them, it's not like you see much of the rear hoses once the backpack is on. Ahhh right, I guess that would be more obvious if I'd taken them off the sprue. That does seem like a lot of effort to go to for two torso designs. Thanks!
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OK so do I just need the two red books to get the complete army lists? I'm going in circles with this  I've got Betrayal but I can't be dealing with £500 of other giant hardbacks.
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Mar 14, 2016 02:28
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Dumb: Not bad:  Awesome: 
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If you're looking for chain glaives for Night Lords, a friend of mine has outfitted all his sergeants with these. If you're outside the UK the postage might be a bit of a downer on the idea though.
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Ville Valo posted:Are there any specific models that absolutely shouldn't be used for a 30K Ultramarines force? I'm trying to keep my new army dual-purpose, so I can play in as many local games as possible. Anyone who gives you poo poo about the armour mks on your mans isn't worth playing. Dreads are dreads, marines are marines and rhinos are rhinos. As others have said avoid aircraft* that can't swap over and you'll be fine. Hopefully. * I'd personally be fine with a Stormtalon standing in for a Xiphon but eh.
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Oh, ignore me then. I misunderstood where you were coming from somewhere between reading and posting. 
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I'm using MKIV army wide because Betrayal at Calth tactical squads are cheap as dirt compared to anything from FW. I painted up a very quick test marine tonight to test my yellow recipe and I'm not convinced.  There are three yellows on there, but they're faaar too similar. I need to head more towards brown on the base.
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krursk posted:Your marine looks really nice to me. Are you using an airbrush? I was originally using brown to do my shading but it was too easy to mess up the tone. I switched to orange and it works well. That yellow is beautiful! Woah. The scheme I tried tonight was: Airbrush: Prime grey Vallejo surface primer. Base VMA yellow ochre (71.033) Zenithal highlight of VMA Yellow RLM04 (71.078) VMA Gloss varnish Brush: VGC Sepia Shade wash with some flow improver into the panel edges Glaze consistency highlight of VMA medium yellow (71.002) on the upper edges of panels. Chest eagle in VGA black with VMA black grey highlight just so I wasn't looking at a solid slab of yellow. (An aside rant about the VMA paint naming scheme.Yellow is yellow and "medium yellow" is nuclear neon. Come on! )I think I need to either tone the base coat waaaay down to an orange as you say, or go for a full zenithal black/grey/white prime and put very thin mid-yellow over it. I worry that might end up way too bright though. I guess Mr Errant is going back in the biostip for some more experimentation tomorrow. That's a pretty full workbench you have. I've got ten Betrayal at Calth tactical squads sat here waiting to be assembled into a yellow tide and that is bad enough.
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Seconding the red guns. Those chequered shoulder pads are awesome.
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The rules update PDF clarified that dreads must immediately disembark. I think.
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Ahh cool. I need to get all that update stuff straight in my brain.
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I've had those inserts in the last two vehicles I picked up at WW and they were still awful.
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Lord Twisted posted:Does anyone have a saved copy of the leviathan PDF that was online before the new book came out? Don't want to have to spend £70 on a book for one model... It's the first result on google last time I looked.
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Lord Twisted posted:That's the 40k version from what I can see! Ah yeah, sorry Best I can find is these shots from the weekender, but things may have changed since then. http://allies-of-convenience.blogspot.co.uk/2015/10/leviathan-dreadnought-rules.html
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JackMack posted:Dumb question, presumably this would work for deredeo ammo feeds as well? Yes, anything resin.
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I just saw a 1k pt 12 model 30k Mechanicum army completely destroy a 1k pt 40k Space Wolves army so completely that it was hard to watch. Photon thrusters and the lorica thallax are some real poo poo.
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Those are all absolutely incredible, the Deredeo and tanks especially get me going. I'd go for the iron warriors head in the dread. Wow.
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Does anyone bothing paying for the extra close combat weapon on tactical blobs? I'm running Imperial Fists so I don't really want them in combat anyway. 260pts for a 20man squad with a vexilla, the extra attack boosts them to a round 300. 
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BULBASAUR posted:If they're going to see combat then it's worth it. If I take big blobs that are in the mid field I almost always give them the extra CC I'm not really sure what to do with my tacticals in 30k so I guess they will see midfield and combat.  I feel like if I'd never play 40k I'd adjust to 30k easier.
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Recoome posted:I am putting CCWs on my Tacticals because it suits the EC play style. Not every legion probably should do it though, like I'm not sure about Imperial Fists because they already have great bolter rules and maaaaybe you don't want to be in CC. This is the thing, I do not want to be in combat at all but for 40pts a squad is the extra 20 attacks a deterrent? I need to play more games and work out how to use the army properly. I also need lots of artillery.
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Recoome posted:I think the deterrent should be eating a whole bunch of super-accurate bolter shots. Ok, cool. That makes sense, I was thinking about objectives and such and not allowing them to get tied up. I just need to throw more bodies on the field.
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I've borrowed book 3 from a friend, so I was working on the assumption that the latest fists rules are the ones on p266-273 in that. What changed in book 6? I'll have to grab that too. Trying to work out what the latest rules are for stuff in 30k is absolutely maddening. My entire army is based off a big pile of BaC tactical kits right now. My model pool is: 2x 20 man tactical squads, all armed identically with bolters 1x 5 man heavy support squad w/ heavy bolters 1x 5 man heavy support squad w/ missile launchers 1x 5 man tactical support squad w/ magnetised wrists so they can take plasma/melta/flamer but I've only ever run plasmas. 1x deimos rhino for the tactical support squad 1x sicaran 1x xiphon I've only played pure 30k against a small mechanicum force based around mostly thallax cohorts with some bigger robits in support, otherwise it's been against 40k marine forces. I've struggled to hold enough objectives in 40k because I've got two giant blobs instead of four tactical squads. Tank hunters on the heavy supports has been really, really good to me.
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