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Herman Merman posted:lol @ all the attempts itt at assigning the blame for profiting from colonialism to some narrower segment of the finnish (or better yet, swedish) society. literally everyone living here today indirectly benefits from past slavery, dwi What's the point though? If you want to go far far before Finland even existed for examples of second hand benefits of slavery then you might as well say every single person on the planet earth benefits from slavery through some chain of events you can draw up if you look hard enough. It becomes a meaningless statement. Like during the exact period mentioned in the article there were peasants in (what is now) finland getting beaten by landowners for not being good boys and girls, and they had no legal recourse. They were essentially deprived of most of the rights citizens usually get, so just a little tiny step above slavery. Nurge fucked around with this message at 18:31 on Oct 26, 2018 |
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Cerebral Bore posted:Well, except the slaves. It's not the exact same thing as actual slavery since the nobles didn't literally own the people, but it was effectively fairly similar. They had very few legal rights, and no real options to move elsewhere. Nurge fucked around with this message at 20:26 on Oct 26, 2018 |
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Yeah this isn't really worth arguing over. History is cool, is all.
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SnowblindFatal posted:Countries in a certain situation behave in a certain way. Being proud or ashamed of a nation's actions is like being proud or ashamed of having to take a poo poo or the way sun sets in the evening. I think it's pretty ok to be angry at the country if they practice slavery.
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throw to first drat IT posted:Paavo täytti sen puolestasi "Se on täytetty." --Paavo Väyrynen
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Oct 27, 2018 12:49
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Kossu maitokauppoihin.
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Reminder that Lehti is still the only news source you need. gently caress looking at YLE's garbage.
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No. 1 Callie Fan posted:Election fever is rising: Immigration critic and general public nuisance Marco de Wit is turning his "Finland First" organization into a bona fide political party and running for next year's general elections. They even have enough member cards for it. Vihdoinkin saatiin puolue ketä kehtaa äänestää!
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e: Actually on second thought a giant who cares. Let the greens implode. I wouldn't piss on them to put out the flames.
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Nenonen posted:Li Andersson should go and unite the green lefties under a personal union. If green rules forbid this like with kepu losers, then a young lad with a strikingly high pitched voice and a fake looking beard called Anders Lison might show up. "Hypätkää kyytiin urpot, lähetään agitoimaan." --Notli Notersson This makes way too much sense. It'll never happen.
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Fabulous Knight posted:"maailman suurin Suomen lippu", like how many Finnish flags are there in *the whole world* to begin with and how large can any of them be in order for this to be some sort of record? Meillä on myös maailman Paavoin Paavo.
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doverhog posted:Rich politician marries 20 years younger hair dresser. I don't care about it, but is "whisper campaign" really the right term here lol. My whole issue with the dude is that he's a rich politician. I mean sure whatever I voted him twice for pres. I just don't think he can ever really encapsulate the green vote. e: And yeah yeah he's done a lot of good poo poo. He's probably one of the least lovely people out there working in politics. He just seems like a bourgey gently caress anyway. I can't help it.
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Haha ei jessus mitä mussuttajia. Lisää kohokohtia:quote:Kalliin jättilipputangon turvallisuuden selvittäminen vasta pystyttämisen jälkeen tuntuu erikoiselta järjestykseltä. Haminan kaupunkikehitysjohtajan Matti Filpun mukaan asiassa ei ole mitään erikoista. quote:Tukes puolestaan pyysi Haminan kaupungilta tietoja muun muassa lipputangon CE-merkinnöistä, mutta ei ole vielä saanut pyytämiään tietoja. quote:”Yksikään keppi ei ole kaatunut”, hän sanoo. Näinhän se rakennushommat tehdään, että jos ei ole mitään ennenkään sattunu ni vitut turvastandardeista.
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Darkest Auer posted:Saako omat kakat vähentää verotuksessa? Sipilä tulee sun kotiin joulukuussa ja vetää tortut sun suuhun että ootte sujut.
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No. 1 Callie Fan posted:https://twitter.com/Suostumus2018/status/1062990190380232705 Katsoin pikaisesti läpi ja aika hyvä esitys. Laitoin oman nimeni kanssa pottiin. Nurge fucked around with this message at 12:31 on Nov 15, 2018 |
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En oikein usko että se suostumuksen lisäys tekee käytännön tasolla juuri mitään, mutta jos se menis noin läpi niin se tiukentais kyllä rangaistuksia jonkun verran. Ne on nykysellään ihan liian kevyet seksuaalirikoksista.
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No. 1 Callie Fan posted:https://twitter.com/hennapursi/status/1063338763018006528 Eiköhän tänne porukkaa tule ihan riittämiin jahka ilmastonmuutos alkaa jyrätä kunnolla tuolla etelämpänä elintilaa. Ihan turha se on murehtia jostain 50 vuotta eteenpäin ennusteista kun asiat muuttuu jatkuvasti.
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No. 1 Callie Fan posted:Send them back to Oulu? That would be cruel and unusual jenkkejä lainatakseni.
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Hogge Wylde did nothing wrong!
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No. 1 Callie Fan posted:So the current assault on the constitution can be wholly attributed to NC. The civil surveillance law that is clashing violently with the constitution is OK'd for parliamentary process by a previous minister of internal affairs who signed the bill in question. How is this not a conflict of interests? Yhdessä päätetään ja yhteen tullaan niin valoa näkyy jo tunnelin päässä. Pena sen siinä keksi ihan viime metreillä että pistetään lakiesitys ihan vittuillaksemme joka rajoittaa kansalaisten yksityisyyttä että näpäytetään vähän vasemmistoa, mutta läpihän se menee kun saatiin porukka oikeisiin virkoihin.
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No. 1 Callie Fan posted:I guess it's that Sipilä's famous down-to-earth engineer charisma or something. Leave both CP and kokkelit out. Vihervasurihallitus pystyyn. I have no idea if there are even enough seats to pull it off. Maybe with some sort of a semi-rainbow crap. SDP shacking up with CP again would make me really sour though.
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Ataxerxes posted:Accoding to some of the latest gallups SPD+Vas+Vihr+RKP would be around 98 seats, so not quite enought yet. Still some months to go. Väyrynen hallitukseen!
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germlin posted:Any gov, be it any combinaton of SDP, VAS, KePu, RKP, De Greens(fug), KP, PS, Sin(lol), populists, instincts by which higher angels of our conscience are undone, a LITERAL DOUBLE-HITLER, Satan, heat decay of universe and nihilist realization that only goals worth pursuing are the ones you set on your own would get my vote if it would transport NC to a place where we don´t need eyes to see. JAA MUTTA SINIPUNAA PUKKAA, EIPPÄ SIINNÄ! Kokkelit ei todellakaan pääse mihinkään hallitukseen ensi kaudella. Se on lähinnä se pelko että keskusta vittuilee ittensä sisään niinkun aina.
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Andrast posted:SDP/Kok/Vihr tulossa Paskannan Antti Rinteen peruukin alle jos näin tapahtuu.
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Nenonen posted:On a hunting trip even, yep. Ei se mitään pilotti oli täys käsi.
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Someone should create the Aku-Ankka puolue already. Just think of the amount of votes you would get for free!
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Hyvin natsaa!Ornedan posted:
The thing is since we know it and they know it and everyone in the country knows it so does playing things down even matter at that point? I guess it might be slightly inconvenient for some persu politicians, but I'm fairly sure no one who matters even a little bit was even there. Nurge fucked around with this message at 19:02 on Dec 6, 2018 |
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No. 1 Callie Fan posted:
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Sulphagnist posted:What I'd want to see them do is peel off misguided liberals from voting Kokoomus so that it doesn't get into government, well, ever again really. Do these people actually exist? Like I can understand rural liberals voting keskusta because they're dumb and blind and their daddy told them to back in 1975. How can any liberal ever vote Kokkerspanielit?
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Andrast posted:Why wouldn't a liberal vote for Kok? Mainly because the idea of a party where the main goal is stuffing the pockets of big corporations isn't exactly the liberal ideal.
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Andrast posted:Liberals are right wingers That doesn't have anything to do with what I said though.
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Andrast posted:Liberals are FYGM right wingers, obviously they are going to vote for the FYGM right wing party I'll just direct you to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberalism since this is kind of a worthless thing to argue about.
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So you're using a completely different definition than we were in the thread. I mean that's cool and all, but why are we arguing this again?
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Andrast posted:Well it's more that anyone describing themselves as a liberal is more than likely a Kok voting rear end in a top hat I guess we don't frequent the same circles. I've never heard anyone in Finland use the word liberal except in the older sense of the word. If I'm wrong and sulphagnist was actually talking of neoliberalism then I guess I was wrong.
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Andrast posted:The only person I remember championing liberalism in Finland is Stubb and I can't think of a more neoliberal rear end in a top hat than Stubb. I mean poo poo, fair enough. Maybe I'm just way too old and out of it. For the record though I was definitely not talking of neoliberalism when I made that comment.
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HerraS posted:people who like to proclaim they're liberals either go sniff liimaa at the viskipuolue meetings, vote rkp or vote for kokkelikikkeli from my experience The difference is that no one actually proclaims themselves as liberal. If they talk about liberalism they usually mean something to the left in my experience. Am I seriously the only one here with this experience?
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Siivola posted:If you want the poor struggling entrepreneur to pay less fees and be able to fire people they don't like, you're fiscally liberal. If you oppose government spending and tax raises, you're fiscally conservative. It's very easy! I'm just going to loving vote vasurit as always. gently caress these semantics games.
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Darkest Auer posted:Isn't this whole Trafi thing trivially solved by putting the service behind a mandatory strong sign in, like, you know, all the other Trafi services regarding your own cars? I think being able to get people's names by guessing their sotu numbers is kind of problematic anyway? I mean maybe. Isn't it? e: Hallitus vittu teuraaksi ja joulupöytään. Näin suomeksi ettei engelsmannit vittuillessaan reppaa. Suomalaiset voi jos kiinnostaa. Nurge fucked around with this message at 15:42 on Dec 11, 2018 |
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Rappaport posted:
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