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I've never actually listened to a Cheek song but it's some kind of rap targeted at teenage girls right?
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Jan 9, 2016 15:12
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My grandad helped the nazis by fighting the red army. Every dead Russian meant one less to defend glorious Leningrad from nasty Hitler. Much shame. 
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Jan 9, 2016 15:42
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Oinonen is the dude that talked passionately about how gay marriage is moral corruption and will result in people marrying their dogs. So in addition to being a nazi he also hates dogs. Not cool.
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Jan 14, 2016 13:14
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Kemper Boyd posted:Foreign hiring has some huge loving hurdles for non-Schengen people and without Schengen, not loving possible to hire construction workers from Eastern Europe anymore. Border controls for the purpose of controlling movement of non-EU citizens doesn't mean we'd start requiring work permits or visas for EU citizens. Is anyone even calling for that?
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Jan 15, 2016 18:28
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It sucks to be sure, but statistics like this between countries are not always directly comparable. The numbers might be explained more by the way they are gathered rather than the rate at which the incidents actually occur. Like Sweden being the country with the most reported rapes in Europe doesn't actually mean it has the most rapes, they are just reported more often and filed differently.
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Jan 16, 2016 18:15
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Hootering red skull.SnowblindFatal posted:This is such bullshit! The only reason they're asking is because they know the people are on their side. Why don't they apply this kind of "democracy" to other aspects of society as well? Harsher punishments is what we will end up with, and I don't think anyone can find much data which would suggest that it is a good way to reduce crime. More crimes like pahoinpitely or rape getting actual jail time instead of probation is a good thing and if they want to sell it with a bullshit study, fine, go ahead.
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Jan 20, 2016 18:57
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My own personal oikeustaju. Probation is not a real punishment and that's a problem.
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Jan 21, 2016 10:42
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Perhaps imprisonment should be eliminated completely since harsher punishments only make things worse. The more you learn...
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Jan 21, 2016 12:09
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I wonder what the bar for "verkkoartikkeli" is, because there's a lot of bullshit websites out there. Not that it's an issue with Putkonen.
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Jan 22, 2016 19:23
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You look like valkonainen, little Myy, hähähää, soita fobba paikalle tai odinin Ligur kohta partioi sua kovaa lupia kyselemäti.
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Jan 23, 2016 02:50
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Hogge Wild posted:Itsellä on vähän ristitiitainen suhtauminen valtionyhtiöiden myyntiin. Toisaalta poliitikot ovat idiootteja ja yritykset pystyvät toimimaan paremmin ilman heidän holhoustaan. Toisaalta taas edes suomalaiset poliitikot eivät pysty ryssimään kaikkea ja ne firmat tuottavat kohtuullisesti rahaa valtiolle. Holhouksen haitallisuus ei ole peruste myynnille, koska yhtä hyvin voidaan myynnin sijaan päättää olla holhoamatta ja kerätä vain osinkoja. Miksi myydä osakkeita infran tai minkään muunkaan rahoittamiseen kun valtio saa lainaa negatiivisella korolla?
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Jan 26, 2016 15:25
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Geriatric Pirate posted:Let's ignore the unignorable fact that the government is just not as good as the private sector at managing most assets. If you consider the amount of money that's just rotting on zero interest bank accounts, or the disproportionate amount of wealth tied to omistusasunnot, forcing citizens to invest in this manner might not be such a bad idea.
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Jan 26, 2016 18:46
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Why are nazis denying the the holocaust? If jews are evil shouldn't they be like, proud about it.
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Jan 27, 2016 21:14
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Fish of hemp posted:This is something really odd. What made people think that PS was actually a left wing party? Because this was always brought up, even by otherwise smart people. "They have leftist economic policies, you know, they care about the little man, they're actually communists in disguise". Well gently caress no they weren't and aren't. How did that happen? PS is letting Kok and Kepu do whatever they want, so we still haven't seen what Pers economic policy would be.
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Jan 28, 2016 21:22
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Indeed. Extreme0, you are an Englishman? What draws you to hither bog? Seeking a sympathetic thread where you can talk about the inherent virtues of Syrians and Kurds vs the loathsome Iraqis while ligur watches in approval? Shame.
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Jan 29, 2016 23:09
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Extreme0 posted:Would you rather have no refugees at all? This is kind of the point where europe will be going where Syrians and Kurds will be put in the same group as Iraqis and Somalis who have the highest crime rate compared to other asylum seekers (And it's already happening) and will be deported back. Alba gu bràth. Refugee status is determined based on whether the person is in mortal danger if returned home, and if they are suojelun tarpeessa (in need of protection) according to the UN treaty of 1951. Crime statistics, that you gave no source for btw, are not a factor. The EU has been loving the whole thing up in many ways and Finland is affected too, we are in agreement there.
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Jan 30, 2016 00:19
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Gotta say letters of marque are a pretty great idea. Liberials aren't wrong about everything...
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Jan 30, 2016 21:56
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That means you must start your own party. Watch out guys hillo 2019 will blow this thing wide open.
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Feb 2, 2016 14:48
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"Onko meillä lainsäädännössä jotain tehtävissä ulkomaille kotiutettavan voiton suhteen? Sipilä kyseli." Keneltä se kyselee?
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Feb 2, 2016 18:55
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Where do you internet?
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Feb 3, 2016 16:03
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Pussy Noise posted:Did the government have cash flow issues at the time? I'm really struggling to understand who benefits and how on the seller/Finland side. Kok benefits because their ideology requires them to sell and privatize everything they can. The Free Market granted Katainen +3 blessings for the deal.
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Feb 4, 2016 11:23
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I might just vote for pikemminkin Kekkonen. He has promised to save mankind with ihmiskuntapolitiikka and is now revolutionizing the party system.  The cult of personality is too strong, send help.
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Feb 5, 2016 11:02
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Did you look for us there, disappointed? Sorry, LOLdiers were expected to assault the place so it was moved to your moms bedroom.
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Feb 6, 2016 01:51
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The problem with TTIP is that it gives corporations the power to sue states if they pass laws that are inconvenient. Overall passing it still might be better than not passing it. It's really funny how Hallo-Aho, who rose into power off the back of his blog, is recommending people don't read "verkkomedia".
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Feb 6, 2016 14:24
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Ok that makes more sense.
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Feb 6, 2016 14:36
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Triple A posted:Sosiaaliturvareformi on välttämätön Doesn't sound libertarian to me. doverhog fucked around with this message at 18:20 on Feb 10, 2016 |
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Feb 10, 2016 18:17
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DarkCrawler posted:Besides arguments all that this thread does anymore is to compete about who is more jaded and oh boy do you guys got that covered without me or what? I pledge to only serious post if any in this thread until the start of June. Any resident ligurs and others too should check out http://www.soininvaara.fi/2016/02/06/turvapaikkapolitiikkaa-pitaisi-jarkevoittaa/ http://www.soininvaara.fi/2016/02/07/ajatuksia-uudesta-pakolaissopimuksesta/
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Feb 11, 2016 00:33
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The UN doesn't have taxation rights, so they obviously can't pay for poo poo either. I've never heard of this "popular gimmick" before and am pretty sure you are either straight making it up or found it on MV or equivalent.
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Feb 16, 2016 21:24
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A book, eh. Convenient.Ligur posted:This is a good example, this gently caress thinks I just "made up" stuff on the fly and didn't even consider there might be something behind it, because it goes against his grain to disagree with everything and anything a "persu" or "right-winger" might say, even though what I said was actually true and did happen and does happen. In this case it's more because it's you specifically, not a persu in general. What are you saying anyway? What's the significance of this popular gimmick and what should we do about it? You only brought it up together with some confused rambling about how the UN should pay immigration costs, or something like that it wasn't really clear.
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Feb 16, 2016 22:26
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Using that 80%, that you didn't give a source for, is misleading. The current crisis only began last year and that figure is for the last five years. http://www.kaleva.fi/uutiset/kotima...lteinen/716351/ In this article, from last December, the number currently getting myönteinen päätös is said to be around 25%.
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Feb 18, 2016 09:16
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If everyone who knew they were going to get a kielteinen päätös withdrew their application before it was finished processing the acceptance rate would be at 100% and still only around 25% of those who applied would be staying. Which figure is misleading again?
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Feb 18, 2016 09:38
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Triple A posted:voitais ainakin napata viipuri takasin kaaoksessa Sadly it's not worth anything anymore. We have too much lande already adding bits of Russia is moving in the wrong direction. Consolidate, optimize and plan for a Finland only inhabited along the main train routes.
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Feb 18, 2016 21:35
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Good points in that article. We must work hard to integrate those who stay here and avoid the creation of slums and ghettos.
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Feb 19, 2016 09:55
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Naton ainoa merkityksellinen hyöty on Jenkkien suojelukseen pääseminen. Ukrainalle ei olisi käynyt köpelösti jos se olisi ollut Obaman kotkansiipien varjeluksessa. Eri asia sitten on tarvitsemmeko moista turvaa, onhan meillä hyvät kahdenväliset naapurisuhteet ja viranomaisyhteistyö ja niin edelleen. Putinkin joskus juttelee Saulille (kai). 
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Feb 19, 2016 14:10
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DarkCrawler posted:It's like this government is trapped into some Sisyphean nightmare where nothing they attempt can be completed. The ghosts of Perustuslaki, Inability to Not Lie in Front of Eduskunta Constantly and apparently Inability to Consult Your Fellow Elected loving Government Party (or your own, assuming Sipilä knew about the thing, entirely not possible) topple every single thing of theirs before it has even a chance to begin. The 1999 perustuslaki is a failure. Kuntien itsemääräämisoikeus therein apparently prevents any meaningful healthcare or most other reforms. They should scrap the loving thing but that is essentially impossible so guess we are just hosed.
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Feb 19, 2016 17:47
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What kind of loving moron enshrined municipal rights in the constitution? Oh right it was Kepu. Carry on...
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Feb 19, 2016 17:48
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DarkCrawler posted:Why don't they know or research that though? Why attempt something that can't be done before you scrap the 1999 law? The law has to be interpreted each time, by perustuslakilautakunta. Can't know beforehand what is legal.
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Feb 19, 2016 22:40
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Parties choose their representatives, and the number of seats a party has is derived from how many seats in parliament they have. No one really knows how politicized the decisions they make are, however they do appear to try to follow the letter of the law, and actually listen to legal scholars. Who decides who these perustuslaki asiantuntijas are is more opaque, I dunno how it's done really. Anyway, the problem appears to be mainly with the text itself. 121 § Kunnallinen ja muu alueellinen itsehallinto Suomi jakaantuu kuntiin, joiden hallinnon tulee perustua kunnan asukkaiden itsehallintoon. Kuntien hallinnon yleisistä perusteista ja kunnille annettavista tehtävistä säädetään lailla. Kunnilla on verotusoikeus. Lailla säädetään verovelvollisuuden ja veron määräytymisen perusteista sekä verovelvollisen oikeusturvasta. Itsehallinnosta kuntia suuremmilla hallintoalueilla säädetään lailla. Saamelaisilla on saamelaisten kotiseutualueella kieltään ja kulttuuriaan koskeva itsehallinto sen mukaan kuin lailla säädetään. That right there is the bit that has hosed up every sote attempt so far.
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Nato doesn't have to defend anything, like with actual tanks or whatever. It's function is to mark members as being under the protection of the US military industrial complex, nukes and all the rest of it. That's enough, no troops or weapons have to be physically placed anywhere. If that idea loses its power NATO becomes useless, but that hasn't happened yet.
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