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Blowdryer posted:... I mean, that looks legit - coming from a position of near-ignorance as to reliable authorities on climate change, that is. Mind you, perhaps the implications are meaningless in the long run given the degree of change and its causes, so they haven't exactly published a beacon of hope anyway.
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Rime posted:Wasting time responding to Arkane is a fools errand, just put him on ignore and move along. I seem to remember reading about something like this years ago. That chemistry of the oceans or atmosphere could get all hosed up cause of climate change. Not sure how you could adapt to that one on any level.
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What exactly is this apocalypse supposed to look like? People keep loosing their poo poo in this thread and you wonder if they're invisaging zombies or locusts or 25/7/365 rain but there's never anything specific. I've read stuff from weather and climate getting more extreme and sea levels rising so farming and living in the same places gets harder to someone saying the composition of the atmosphere could suddenly change and we'll all suffocate. Can someone go over what the various results of the worst case scenario are likely to be, if there's any certainty?
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Hello Sailor posted:Yeah, I think he's off the mark. The NSIDC graphs for arctic and antarctic sea ice don't match his at all. So the graph Beck posted is of dubious veracity? Why are people still panicking about it ITT
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brakeless posted:Because area and extent are two different measurements, lookie here: Okay thanks, so the area the ice is occupying is normalish but it's suddenly full of holes. That does suck
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Blorange posted:We knew this was going to happen, satellites measuring the area of the ice just leaves estimates of the overall volume of sea ice. It was melting over the past 20 years, it's just now that we've run out of ice beneath the waves and get this crazy falloff. The scary part is we don't really know how the higher surface water temperatures will affect climate, and how the lower albedo of sea water will feedback into more warming. I was kind of wondering how come 1/4-1/3 of the ice being measured turned to mush in 3 months. Guess it's impossible to actually monitor all the ice in detail all the time.
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Conspiratiorist posted:Well, that's pretty clear, then. Any measure that means intentional reduction in quality of life (as opposed to natural Can you describe how you envisage people behaving in your idea of what should happen?
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Car Hater posted:Tbh I don't comprehend your insistince that real solutions be bounded by human desires (particularly those of a globetrotting elite consumer class) and not "whatever is necessary to keep the seasons stable and crops maturing." How do you propose to get people to work against their desires? What propaganda do you imagine persuading people to materially harm themselves? How do you stop it being countered? How does your effort deal with capitalism organising against you? Why isn't this being done already given how easy it is to point out the problems of capitalism? None of that is apparent when you describe your ideas. It is very easy to point out that capitalism is bad then name solutions without even describing how they work. There is a history of this.
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StabbinHobo posted:oh come on its 2018 and we're still doing the "here's some article i read about hydrogen with nothing but vague quotes" thing Batteries aren't really good enough though quite yet. Still not cheap enough, and not terribly green to produce I've heard. It's taking long enough for cheap everyday electric cars to appear that if hydrogen vehicles are cheap enough to produce there could be an opportunity, right?
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Rime posted:That stems from a fundamental lack of understanding in the supply chain complexity for something as simple as a steam engine or lubricated bearings. I'm glad you put a smiley in there to lessen the blow! Good for you for supporting discussion like that
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