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The latest episode of Vice on HBO is a look at Geoengineering and hooo-boy is the sulfates scientist the most somber, depressed looking guy around.
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Admiral Ray posted:What a time
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Sep 27, 2018 15:44
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Current 20 year olds are hosed. I'm in my early 30s and should be dying just in time to see the beginning of the Bad Times. Weep for the actual children.
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Sep 28, 2018 18:48
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StabbinHobo posted:we are in the bad times *right now*. thats what the collapsing/failed-states around the tropic of cancer are. thats whats driving the refugree crisis from the ME to EU and from central to north america. that in turn is whats driving the reactionary/hard-right turn both places. There's gonna have to be at least a dozen failed states in the tropics before I'll feel comfortable saying we live in the Bad Times 
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Sep 29, 2018 20:51
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The human brain just ain't built to care about 50 years into the future, much less 100, 200, 300. It's the loving Great Filter, friends. Accept it, it's OK, it's what happens to virtually every sentient form of life in the universe. This is normal, nothing is wrong.
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Oct 4, 2018 17:37
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StabbinHobo posted:very little is going to become unlivable, like yes the population distribution will shift north, and inshallah florida will be taken by the sea, but most of forced migrations will be about moving inland from flooding not north from temperatures Dude, that's extremely wrong. e: like, just google "climate change uninhabitable" you fuckin moron. huge swaths of the planet are going to be uninhabitable for significant chunks of the year by the end of the century. Forced migration due to sea level rise will pale in comparison. How are u fucked around with this message at 19:32 on Oct 5, 2018 |
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Oct 5, 2018 18:33
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Ooof, 2040 is rough. That definitely seals the deal on kids for me and my partner. Not that we were leaning towards them anyway, but hell no I'm not bringing a child into this world that will turn 20 years old just in time to see the worst start. Fuckin  It's gonna be a wild ride, interesting times ahead.
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Oct 8, 2018 17:13
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Saxophone posted:So, as a 35 year old male living in St Louis, what can I do to 1) help mitigate these things for my immediate loved ones and 2) help mitigate locally and/or globally? Vote Democrats into office. That's the most immediate and impactful thing an American can do right now.
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Oct 8, 2018 21:16
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Owlofcreamcheese posted:Who the heck are you fantasizing you could murder that would do anything? It's not a video game where you kill the head of a coal plant and the plant just collapses and is gone. Obviously, duh. You'll have to murder a gently caress lot more than one guy.
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Oct 9, 2018 20:39
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I just got home from a long weekend vacation to western europe (you can get some killer ticket deals these days!), and I'm going to Mexico in a few weeks, so thank you Stabbin Hobo and friends for riding bikes, ditching beef, and generally namaste-ing it up to offset my flights.  I'll 100% vote for a government that, like, forbids international air travel on pain of death or makes beef eating illegal, but until that day I'm gonna enjoy what's left of this world because your individual carbon cutting means jack. poo poo.
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Oct 17, 2018 01:17
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Flowers For Algeria posted:Liar.  Don't hate the player, friend. Climate Change is the all-consuming bugaboo of my life, much like the rest of us sad sacks here. I just recognize that, apart from not having a kid (done) and voting for people who accept reality and acknowledge that government must do something, anything else I try to do is a mouse fart in the middle of a hurricane. You can tut-tut all you want, but that's just how it is, and I'm honest enough to admit that I'm not going to give up extremely enjoyable and fulfilling opportunities for nothing.
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Oct 17, 2018 15:30
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Lampsacus posted:Kids entering school now will be at university in 2036-2040. So that's when stuff will definitely be going down right? Surely parents today can see that, if they won't make it until climate change affects everybody badly, their kids will be in the middle of it. Yeah. This coming Thanksgiving I think I'm going to have a very frank conversation with one of my sisters who has not yet had kids but really wants a few of them. The last time I saw her I made some comment on [awful_climate_change_news_of_the_day] and about how bad it would be for children born now, and she was really shocked. It wasn't even on her radar. I think I owe it to those kids to try and keep them from being born at all.
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Oct 19, 2018 16:13
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StabbinHobo posted:when the answer is just don't get on the loving plane You don't get on the plane. I'm getting on the loving plane and doing something I enjoy before I die.
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Oct 19, 2018 16:15
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Trainee PornStar posted:So.. in order you can live your life your going to advocate the next generation does not get born? I'm living my life one way or the other. If I were the next generation I would not want to be born. And, living my life doesn't mean pouring motor oil into the storm drain or voting for Republicans or any of the other dumb made-up straw men some of you mongoloids are projecting onto myself and oocc. Actually that "personal action is the avocado toast of climate change" is a great line and I will deffo remember it.
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Oct 19, 2018 16:29
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Flowers For Algeria posted:Is there literally nothing else you’d enjoy instead? Maybe taking a Greyhound to visit a neighboring city, perhaps a two-day visit at your regional huge museum, a couple boardgames with your sister, a VR escape game with buddies, a Star Trek binge, a huuuge joint combined with a National Geographic documentary or a Bob Ross tutorial playlist, volunteering at the local chapter of the DSA, iunno, anything at all?? Years go by when I never leave the country, and I very much enjoy exploring regional sights and poo poo. I'm just not going to deny myself the opportunity when it does occur out of some really dumb sense of personal guilt or misguided delusion that my single action will make a difference. In the U.S. of A. the only single action you can make that will make a difference right now is your Vote. sure thing, guy. you'll probably be voting for Le Pen in 20-30 years when the real climate refugees start rolling in.VVVVVVV How are u fucked around with this message at 16:44 on Oct 19, 2018 |
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Oct 19, 2018 16:33
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Flowers For Algeria posted:I’m still gonna blame first world capitalists for driving the demand of soy, palm oil and shrimp, and for murdering the people who try to defend the forests. Definitely not you, though. You're making a difference!
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Oct 20, 2018 19:33
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Bishounen Bonanza posted:Individual action has to happen before collective action. Recycling, changing your diet, flying less, ect will all have only a small impact on emissions, but all of that primes people into the mindset of struggling to make changes. Before the public will accept the big changes of restructuring the transportation grid and cities, building nuclear, and revamping industrial farming, the culture has to change. You change the culture by focusing on individual actions. like, do you live in America, dude?
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Oct 21, 2018 02:17
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Flowers For Algeria posted:How cowardly of us, not even willing to risk Buddy,  Lowtax has a spine to regenerate, or something.
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Oct 22, 2018 07:57
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in the fight for our own lives.
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SlimGoodbody posted:Is anyone else wistfully hopeful that stellarators, AI, and quantum computing will actually drop by their proposed 2030 schedules and help usher in a sea change as radical as the Industrial Revolution? Unlimited free sustainable energy and the ability to do sickeningly complicated simulations could really make a difference. Interesting in theory, but, personally, I'm much more hopeful that whatever apocalyptic event that turns the world into Shadowrun occurs instead. I'm ready to become a wizard.
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Oct 23, 2018 17:02
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Rime posted:Ten years of my life trying to warn people has left me understanding that you will only lose friends and alienate people by doing so. gently caress em, there's no pleasure in being "right" in this argument. Dropping acid loving rules, I wholeheartedly endorse that plan.
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Oct 27, 2018 18:30
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Socks4Hands posted:Welcome to my ideology. The Deep Adaptation paper (though it's not so much a paper as it is kind of a manifesto laying out what's wrong with our framing of climate change and our ability to do anything about, exhibited helpfully by many hopeful idiots in this thread) is fantastic. It really helped frame my own thoughts and feelings. No surprise at all it wasn't published.
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Oct 28, 2018 16:12
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Epitope posted:I thought your ideology was the case for nuclear winter, recycled for the next generation's existential threat That would sort of make sense if there were, say, a moon sized rock headed towards Earth that would 100% rip the planet into pieces and guarantee the extinction of all life, full stop. As things are, though, there is going to be a bountiful, vibrant world full of incredible diversity of life in just a few million years after our species snuffs itself out. The Earth, and life on it, will endure.
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Oct 28, 2018 16:14
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Epitope posted:Sure, but will earth generate another space faring civilization? This might be a single flowering planet, we gotta seize the opportunity that's here Who knows, but life 100% exists abundantly throughout the galaxy and the universe. It's no big deal.
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Oct 28, 2018 16:31
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Build a giant hamster wheel and run on it to generate your own electricity in the coming climate apocalypse.
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Oct 28, 2018 16:45
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Ace sucks and will never accept help or change.
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Oct 29, 2018 01:03
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Frightening Knight posted:Ace if you want to keep posting in this thread, you need to calm the gently caress down lol. He explicitly toxxed a ban that he’d never post in here again. Hit the ?
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Oct 29, 2018 01:32
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Frightening Knight posted:I did ban him, he rebought his account. That is why his avatar is gone. Oh, I turn off avatars so didn’t realize.
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Oct 29, 2018 01:45
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 Brain damage? Hoo boy. There's like a couple of generations in each of India and China that I guess are straight hosed. Perfect timing, too. There really is some cosmic humor guiding our gay earth.
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Oct 31, 2018 02:15
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A sustainable living thread where people posted about learning to garden or dig wells or install solar and poo poo could be fun.
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Oct 31, 2018 22:40
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Alaska is where I want to build my little climate refuge, so that suits me just fine.
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Nov 1, 2018 03:04
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Can't wait to smugly tell my girlfriend that me never buying clothes and dressing like a slob is actually climate crusading.
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Nov 1, 2018 18:41
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Trainee PornStar posted:I don't generally buy from thrift stores but I do tend to wear my clothes until they literally fall off. Username-post combo 
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Nov 1, 2018 21:21
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Flowers For Algeria posted:Yeah, well, we offered socialism as an alternative to barbary and you americans rejected it. Your "smug and rude Frenchman" gimmick is wearing a little thin, guy.
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Nov 2, 2018 18:14
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AFancyQuestionMark posted:Okay. What do you get out of posting in this thread and wallowing in depression? What's the "payout" here? I suppose that even when the rest of us are feeling particularly down about things we can take solace in the fact that we'll never be as broke-brained pathetic as ace of flames.
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Nov 3, 2018 17:23
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Banana Man posted:What's long pork Soylent Green, my man.
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Nov 5, 2018 08:54
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If there were any hope at all I think I would, funnily enough, have a child.
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Nov 5, 2018 16:27
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Conspiratiorist posted:Should also be noted that the Pakistani nuclear arms program has an emphasis on distributed and mobile second-strike capability; they convoy these things around the country, making them hard to track, and in groups that expect to be cut off from central authority if poo poo goes down. The Himalaya water all 3 of those nations. The glaciers that feed those rivers ain't gonna be around in 80 years.
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Nov 6, 2018 19:47
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What must it feel like to be a teen or in your early 20s right now? I imagine it must be infuriating, just incredibly maddening to watch your future burning up into ash. I'm in my early 30s and I just feel tired. I'm sad about it but the world sucks enough and I've seen it poo poo on people enough that I can't find it in myself to get truly, passionately furious. Just waiting for the end to come. But if I were young again I imagine I'd feel entirely different.
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Nov 14, 2018 17:36
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DrNutt posted:I'm in my mid-30s and assuming you live in a place like the US or Canada or Western Europe you're probably going to live long enough to see your future turn to ash also. I'm well aware of that! e: I'm trying to say that, not being a "youth" anymore, I'm a lot more inclined to feel resigned and sad instead of outraged. I imagine it must be unbearable to be a teen or early twenty-something and to have all of that passion and energy and zest for life and looking ahead to a long future that I had back then. How are u fucked around with this message at 18:47 on Nov 14, 2018 |
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Accretionist posted:The hyper-wealthy have sealed themselves inside bubbles of opulence. Our system risks literal human extinction to preserve those bubbles. We're not allowed to talk about the necessary solution.
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