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CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug


Pillbug

That guy is super smart.

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CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug


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:catstare:

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug


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Thanks Ants posted:

I think it's great that Deloitte are such a shitshow. These are the people that will turn up at your office and list everything that Nessus finds as being a vulnerability that needs to be secured right now, and need help getting their laptop onto a VLAN so they can scan it. Good to know it's clowns all the way down.

https://krebsonsecurity.com/2017/09/source-deloitte-breach-affected-all-company-email-admin-accounts/

It gets worse.

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

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Pillbug
"Nobody can get us in the cloud!"

Oops

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug


Pillbug

That's nice.

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug


Pillbug

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug


Pillbug
Didn't see it in the past few pages, but have we discussed this yet?

https://www.popsci.com/vpnfile-malware-reboot-router

FBI is saying that VPNFilter has 3 stages, and rebooting your router kills the 3rd stage, but considering it doesn't claim to do anything for the 1st and 2nd stage infection....this suggestion doesn't really do anything?

The article on VPNFilter specifically states it persists of the router is rebooted (because of course it does)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VPNFilter

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

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evil_bunnY posted:

IIRC A factory reset kills the runtime, and after they seized the c2 domain the bootlader can’t grab the runtime and fails silently to normal operation. The problem is of course that none of these POS devices have any kind of security updates process, so they’re effectively just waiting for the next exploit to come along.

From what I'm reading, Stage II is the actual malware and for me would be the largest issue, because its active after every reboot and can receive instruction and actually carry out tasks. According to what I'm reading, Stage III is just optional modules that can be installed.

So unless you actually do get a full firmware update, its persistent.

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

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Jabor posted:

Where's it going to receive commands from?

If the infection persists, someone will figure out how to send commands to them, abandoned or not.

Seems like a hard reset will wipe out stage 1, but also depends upon the default credentials being changed.

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

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What, is FSLabs past time to just do really, really sketchy things to protect their products? Because that's sketchy as hell.

I cannot recall the last thing they did, but I know it pissed off a lot of their customer base.

E: Oh yeah, it scraped your Chrome passwords if activated improperly.

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

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I really want to do more CTFs, but I really need to brush up on my pen testing skills

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

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OSU_Matthew posted:

I’m currently working through this for personal edification at this point, but this is a good resource for OSCP, which is all the hacky bits:
https://www.abatchy.com/2017/03/how-to-prepare-for-pwkoscp-noob

Gonna try this, I've been playing with Metaploit/Rapid 7s Metasploitable, but that's a CTF on EASY mode, you can get root right off the bat, and its open to every exploit under the sun.

I've got a virtual security lab with a bunch of flavors of Windows and Windows Server plus some RHEL and Debian boxes segregated by a PfSense VM and a Virtual Switch.

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

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D. Ebdrup posted:

I don't know if pfSense ships with netgraph modules, but if it does you can use ng_bridge(4) and ng_ether(4) to do switching (plus, there's ng_netflow if you need that). Alternatively, netmap can be used to create a vale(4) software switch that can easily do +70Gbps on relatively inexpensive hardware.

I'm mostly using Xen's built in Virtual Switching feature, but yeah thanks for suggesting netgraph!

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

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Pillbug

Brilliant. Brilliant.

"Just grabbed this Chinese spy, QUICKLY I MUST PLUG IN HER USB DRIVE!"

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

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xThrasheRx posted:

https://www.bbc.com/news/business-47724438


What in the shits name is this article, lolol - havent read something this bad in a long time

Well they are quoting Check Point security, which does not raise my confidence in their product.

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

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Pillbug
"You see, if we make (insert crime here) unprofitable, it'll go away"

Genius, if only all laws worked this way!

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

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Pillbug

Fucker wanted to setup a paid child porn site? Jesus....

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

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Proteus Jones posted:

Millions using 123456 as password, security study finds


I blame Mel Brooks.

https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-47974583

Hell, millions still use planeplain dictionary words. We had a load balancer get hit like that.

CommieGIR fucked around with this message at 21:51 on Apr 22, 2019

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

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Pillbug
I love spellcheck, and you guys are all great.

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug


Pillbug
Had to open an.l incident because a user shared his private key rather than his public.

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug


Pillbug
I've lost a lot of respect for him, since his goal is apparently to piss off the infosec field by outing people.

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

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Pillbug
So I'm starting to play with port knocking as a back door method in case my OpenVPN instance dies, pretty neat.

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

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Raenir Salazar posted:

Anyone use Suricata on ubuntu? I followed some tutorials but I can't get it to detect/log my pings between two VMs.

I have a box running SELK, which is Suricata running with the ELK stack for reporting and analytics.

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

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CLAM DOWN posted:

What's your opinion on Azure Sentinel, Lain?

We just had a demo today for this, more next week

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

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CLAM DOWN posted:

I'm quite literally excited for your take on this.

We're also examining Logarythm, which has some really cool features like Incident quick actions and playbooks.

Sentinel also has playbooks, and quick or auto actions based on alerting.

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

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Lain Iwakura posted:

Stay the gently caress away from LogRhythm.

:stare: I don't know if that will be up to me, but please give me some talking points?

We currently have Symantec MSS, which is garbage. We have Splunk, but we don't have anyone capable of building out a working Security dashboard.

I mean, I use ELK a lot without issue...

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

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Lain Iwakura posted:

Lack of available extractions and availability of apps, their API was trash for the longest time and is still their biggest weakness, and it's really poor at scaling. Splunk's problem is that it requires ES and is a complete crapshoot when it comes to licensing these days, but at least it scales and has a variety of half-decent apps available.

Honestly I just have such a firm opinion on LogRhythm having had to develop for it and told my boss I'd sooner quit than deal with it when it came up as a joke.

The Security suite they showcased is fantastic looking, I hope its not just a farce. Most of the other engineers on my team are already sold, and we're bringing on a Managed Services team to help build/configure it.

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

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Lain Iwakura posted:



I've been burnt many times in my career over fancy demos only to be disappointed. The reason why log collection has gone so well at my company is because I used to sell the product we use when I worked as a consultant but otherwise it would have been dead in the water. Unless you got someone on your team who is well-versed in this sort of stuff, you're not going to get the fancy setup that the sales engineers will attempt to convince you'll get.

Yeah, I wish I had more to go off of to sway the other engineers away from Logrythm, then :(

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

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Lain Iwakura posted:

We use CyberArk and have little complaints. It will even record RDP and SSH sessions.

CyberArk is what we are using as well.

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

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The Microsoft Sentinel demo did not go well, unfortunately. :(

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

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Mustache Ride posted:

What else have you looked at?

So far I've looked at:
Devo - Lol
Gravwell - Probably too good to be true, still evaluating
Chronicle - Amazing Search, VT bolted in, little else
Whaterver that PAN one was called. Exabeam maybe?
Probably some others that I don't remember because they're all poo poo

At this point I'm probably going to go back to developing all the missing components I need for Collaborative Searches in Elastic (Spark plays a huge role here) and pay the drat infrastructure costs. Its really sad no one has just reverse engineered and released "Skunk" or something.

Sentinel
Splunk
Logrythm
IBM QRadar

One or two others that were not really that impressive.

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

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Lucid Nonsense posted:

Really? I haven't seen that issue unless the forwarding agent isn't rfc5424 compliant. Snare works fine, but the Datagram syslog agent just truncates the messages.

That is our current issue, Snare is just converting Event Forwarding logs and ruins the formatting.

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

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Mustache Ride posted:

Are you grabbing them as XML or just using the default WinEventLog Splunk collector?

I'm going to assume the latter. I was not involved in configuring it, and was before my time.

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

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Lucid Nonsense posted:

How much time would you guys say you spend learning and configuring with ELK?

With my SELK setup, which is an IDS/IPS + ELK, it was fairly simple to do. Tested it with a could of my honeypots and got good results.

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

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Pillbug
"You'll get no bounty and we'll sue you if you release it"

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

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AlternateAccount posted:

I expect Harley Davidson to have a conference on rider safety with Evel Kneivel as keynote any day now.


Oh my god no.

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

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Pillbug
Seam is how I pronounce it

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

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Pillbug
Apparently China carried out another BGP hijack against the EU on the 7th

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

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Pillbug
Fair enough, unintentional hijack.

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CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

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Saukkis posted:

We really need more non-profit associations or other organisations to run services like these, and other services useful for internet. Don't want to rely on individuals or businesses for something like this.

There really does. Much like a lot of the best Security/Hacking tools are open source and community driven.

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