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Fix posted:I missed this thing and honestly can't tell from the recaps whether it'd be worth watching in whole. I'd avoid it unless you want to condition yourself to say, "Shut up Carly shut up Carly oh god kill me" every time you hear a bell for the rest of your life
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carly was in the second debate christie and santorum were the first debate and you didn't miss much
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Third World Reggin posted:carly was in the second debate Ol' Frothy did have a bit of a freakout, though. That was amusing if you can find the clip.
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First Democratic debate: Canadian Election:  Republican CNBC debate:  Last night: 
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I'm not demonstrating any point there, just sharing some graphs. It does look like last night's debate wasn't as interesting as the others to this forum though.
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Ralp posted:I'm not demonstrating any point there, just sharing some graphs. It does look like last night's debate wasn't as interesting as the others to this forum though. The only thing still interesting to us at this point is seeing the moderators themselves handle things and if Jeb/Trump will do anything new
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Nov 11, 2015 14:40
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Nov 11, 2015 14:48
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Did any of these people look even vaguely presidential?
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Warcabbit posted:Did any of these people look even vaguely presidential? Rubio tried, at least
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Warcabbit posted:Did any of these people look even vaguely presidential? Jeb still looks like his brother and his father, if that's what you mean.
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Honestly Jeb still looks the most presidential and yeah maybe it's because he looks like his dad and bro. Without a doubt he would at least look the part when faced against a democrat, it's just unfortunate for him that being the biggest clown possible is an asset in the GOP primary.
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Deep Hurting posted:Yeah, Cruz is one of those pathetic, sniveling toadies common to late '80s/early '90s cartoons or action shows for children. Ted Cruz: Basically Starscream.
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Nov 11, 2015 16:58
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Best part of the debate: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRTl230M4X8
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Yoshifan823 posted:Ted Cruz: Basically Starscream. Wetfartscream
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Yoshifan823 posted:Ted Cruz: Basically Starscream. He'll get brutally owned the minute he tries to lash out against Trumpatron so this comparison checks out
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arbybaconator posted:Best part of the debate: Also: really annoyed that I can't find any clips that include the commercial music being played immediately afterwards and the moderator being all like, "Nah, i'ma let him finish". Second best part of the debate.
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Nov 11, 2015 17:15
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Cruz pulled a loving Perry and nobody noticed/cares. The hugbox is real.
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Trump's I LIKE IKE and something about moving a large group of native americans ?
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Humans Among Us posted:Trump's I LIKE IKE and something about moving a large group of native americans ? He longed for the halcyon days of OPERATION WETBACK 
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Logikv9 posted:Cruz pulled a loving Perry and nobody noticed/cares. The hugbox is real. People keep saying this I must have missed this. What happened?
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Necc0 posted:People keep saying this I must have missed this. What happened? He listed five government departments he was gonna cut and named the Department of Commerce twice.
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Necc0 posted:People keep saying this I must have missed this. What happened? He listed 5 government agencies he would shut down, and two of them were the Department of Commerce. E;fb
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You gonna try to pull a double-Perry you best not miss.
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Okay so I used to totally scoff at republicans when they would suggest "MAKE THIS LAW 3 PAGES OR NO ONE WILL READ IT. NOTHING CAN BE READ IF ITW MOR THAN 5 pages MY WMTITEE TAX PLAN IS FIVE-FIVE-FIVE 5 inch pizza with 5 toppings for 5 dollars" I seriously thought this was an "I don't like to read" argument appealing to the illiterate masses but last night's debate made me think of it differently They argued that an overly complex tax code hurts small businesses because large corporations can afford teams of lawyers to get by it while small businesses just have to accept it. This is actually a good argument but if they really wanted to help small businesses and tax large corporate tax cheaters wouldn't it be easier to just write bills that specifically target large mega corporations? Like have higher taxes or higher minimum wage for companies with thousands of employees and hundreds of millions of profit, while leaving low taxes and lower minimum wage for small businesses?
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Cruz alternately looks great or terrible in the debates, and yesterday was no different from the others. Last debate he got out a few great lines, but other times you could really see him sweat as he verged away from scripted talking points into nonsensical blabber.
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Eh, the thing with Cruz is that he named it second and fifth, so he smoothly covered over the duplication--it wasn't a halting "uh..um....oops"--and no one pays that close attention to the individual tones when a wet fart is ripping. It's only when you think back on it that you realize the error, and then it's too late; the moment's passed.
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Commie NedFlanders posted:This is actually a good argument but if they really wanted to help small businesses and tax large corporate tax cheaters wouldn't it be easier to just write bills that specifically target large mega corporations? Like have higher taxes or higher minimum wage for companies with thousands of employees and hundreds of millions of profit, while leaving low taxes and lower minimum wage for small businesses? Lower regulations and simpler taxes = almost always better for small, mom and pop businesses. Has to be balanced with the potential budgetary/social/environmental damage that eliminating regulations and lower taxes carry with them Targeted taxes are really, really hard to make work. What's the cutoff? How do you decide? Senators/Reps from whatever state happens to have a lot of companies JUST above the cutoff will go nuts. Companies can actually be financially better off by staying smaller, even if you try to use some sort of linear scaling tax, since they can hire fewer attorneys, accountants, etc, and it incentivizes gaming the system by splitting up businesses or entities, increasing waste/inefficiency. Also I don't think the right would say having lots and lots of tiny companies is strictly better - they're less profitable and productive and can't raise capital as easily as big cos, and gdp suffers.
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Baloogan posted:empress fiorina wants war Secretariat.
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Gentlemen we have a winner http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2015/11/11/donald-trump-marco-rubio-won-gop-debate-poll-finds/
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Commie NedFlanders posted:Okay so I used to totally scoff at republicans when they would suggest "MAKE THIS LAW 3 PAGES OR NO ONE WILL READ IT. NOTHING CAN BE READ IF ITW MOR THAN 5 pages MY WMTITEE TAX PLAN IS FIVE-FIVE-FIVE 5 inch pizza with 5 toppings for 5 dollars" You're thinking about this way too hard. None of these "ideas" are meant to address problems whatsoever. They are just bait to appeal to voters. The very definition of "red meat." None of them are realistic and none of them would be implemented, even in a nightmare scenario of a Cruz landslide victory.
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By the way did anyone else lookup that lawsuit the Huckster was talking about Loving v. Commissioner? Turns out the lawsuit was about should paid tax preparers have to have some type of certification and responsibility for errors the courts said no. So the plaintiff wasn't being burdened by regulation, she just didn't want to have to be responsible when she or her employees gently caress up someones taxes.
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Jewel Repetition posted:Gentlemen we have a winner http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2015/11/11/donald-trump-marco-rubio-won-gop-debate-poll-finds/ Kasich just cannot get above Jeb "Possibly Mistaken for another Podium" Bush, it must be utterly maddening for him. 
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Jerusalem posted:Kasich just cannot get above Jeb "Possibly Mistaken for another Podium" Bush, it must be utterly maddening for him. His moments of lucidity are costing him big in the polls
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Kasich says some relatively reasonable things all things considered, but the trouble is that he delivers them with the absurd mannerisms of a homeless person arguing with a light pole while swatting at invisible bats.
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MrAristocrates posted:He listed five government departments he was gonna cut and named the Department of Commerce twice. Someone needs to make a youtube clip of this and hopefully it can go viral.
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Jewel Repetition posted:Gentlemen we have a winner http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2015/11/11/donald-trump-marco-rubio-won-gop-debate-poll-finds/ quote:Republican primary voters in the survey gave Mr. Trump top marks for a number of qualities. He came in first when respondents were asked which candidate was best able to handle the job of president, which candidate best understands the problems facing “people like you,’’ and who would be best able to improve the economy and keep the U.S. safe from terrorism. holy poo poo republicanism is a mental disorder
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Trump understands that our wages are too high.
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