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Nov 21, 2015 00:33
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Vladimir Putin posted:I think either way they are using the refugee pathway to gain entry into the EU. Honestly that's going to draw criticism for the refugee process because it can be demonstrated that terrorists used it as a pathway to their targets. If an EU citizen takes a train or something from France or Belgium down to Greece, walks into the intake center with a group of refugees and gets processed with fake papers, then heads back home, how is that them using it to gain entry to the EU? That seems like a much easier way for them to cause a refugee scare than actually trying to get someone through the normal refugee routes.
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Nov 21, 2015 00:47
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A Fancy 400 lbs posted:If an EU citizen takes a train or something from France or Belgium down to Greece, walks into the intake center with a group of refugees and gets processed with fake papers, then heads back home, how is that them using it to gain entry to the EU? That seems like a much easier way for them to cause a refugee scare than actually trying to get someone through the normal refugee routes. How many times has that happened, A Fancy 400 lbs? Might as well ask what if an EU citizen rockets themselves into space, has a splashdown in the mediteranian, and after a Homeric journey registers themselves in Greece.
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Nov 21, 2015 00:52
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Shes Not Impressed posted:A pathway to Europe that often involves dying on a sinking ship. Yeah I'm sure they're super concerned about that. A Fancy 400 lbs posted:If an EU citizen takes a train or something from France or Belgium down to Greece, walks into the intake center with a group of refugees and gets processed with fake papers, then heads back home, how is that them using it to gain entry to the EU? That seems like a much easier way for them to cause a refugee scare than actually trying to get someone through the normal refugee routes. Is this what happened? Entering from outside (say Syria) as a refugee with a fake passport allows them to avoid being detected as "those guys who went to Syria for a year in the middle of a civil war".
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Nov 21, 2015 00:59
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A Fancy 400 lbs posted:If an EU citizen takes a train or something from France or Belgium down to Greece, walks into the intake center with a group of refugees and gets processed with fake papers, then heads back home, how is that them using it to gain entry to the EU? That seems like a much easier way for them to cause a refugee scare than actually trying to get someone through the normal refugee routes. The thing is that's it's very likely they were actually coming back from Syria. Some went back as normal EU citizens through Turkey; but at least one, for propaganda purposes, took the refugee route, and made sure to broadcast "look I'm a refugee like all others; all other refugees are like me".
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Nov 21, 2015 01:15
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Shes Not Impressed posted:A pathway to Europe that often involves dying on a sinking ship.
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Nov 21, 2015 01:30
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But what do the fine upstanding individuals at Rapeman think about this? Oh
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Nov 21, 2015 01:54
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khwarezm posted:Doesn't trophy hunting tend to have the problem that, unlike natural predation, it tends to target the biggest, most impressive specimens that would otherwise be the most successful breeders and remove them from the population? Its leads to a pretty detrimental effect on the health of a population of animals over time. quote:I've also seen it argued that as a real way to control population recreational hunting is really ineffective. The Larch posted:Maybe the dentist guy should have actually gone on a legal trophy hunt then. People were calling for all trophy hunting to end and more airlines started refusing to carry any big game animal trophies in general. The ridiculous way this story blew up internationally caused collateral damage way beyond dentist guy being a dick.
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Nov 21, 2015 01:54
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I CANNOT EJACULATE WITHOUT SEEING NATIVE AMERICANS BRUTALISED!
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cross-posting from the UKMT:quote:Faisal IslamVerified account   That's basically the UN saying "go nuts, bomb them into pre-history", right?
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Nov 21, 2015 02:00
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It's interesting that it also includes Al Nusrah & co on the hit list.
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Nov 21, 2015 02:06
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As posted in the UKMT, it seems to have passed because it makes no mention of Assad and limits the combat to non-Assad forces. The question is how this affects Russia's bombing of the FSA, since the UN resolution is more about other countries (as Russia is already protected under international law because Assad requested their assistance).
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Nov 21, 2015 02:14
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so apparently Belgium has placed Brussels at the highest terror alert level, citing a "serious and imminent threat." hopping its just cnn fear mongering and nothing happens.
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Nov 21, 2015 02:34
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The PKK isn't a "terrorist group designated by the UNSC", is it? Just wondering if Turkey could use this resolution as a pretext for continuing to be Daesh Air Force.
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Nov 21, 2015 02:35
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All of western Europe pretty much has raised its terror alert levels in response to last week, Brussels probably over the Mali situation. Not to say something won't happen, but it's more likely a precautionary measure.
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Nov 21, 2015 02:35
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Cat Mattress posted:The PKK isn't a "terrorist group designated by the UNSC", is it? Just wondering if Turkey could use this resolution as a pretext for continuing to be Daesh Air Force. It is not, but it is designated as such by plenty of organisations, including NATO.
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Nov 21, 2015 02:37
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Tesseraction posted:All of western Europe pretty much has raised its terror alert levels in response to last week, Brussels probably over the Mali situation. well isn't Brussels/Belgium full of radicals?
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Nov 21, 2015 02:48
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Dapper_Swindler posted:well isn't Brussels/Belgium full of radicals? Well yes, but the point of terrorism is to strike when people feel safe, not when they're on alert.
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Nov 21, 2015 03:19
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blowfish posted:Yeah, no poo poo. But it provides money for underfunded national parks to do actually useful things. Trophy hunting as conservation tends to be better in theory than in practice, unfortunately the communities its meant to help usually don't end up seeing much benefit from it in large part because the big one off payments that come in tend to get swallowed up by corruption, while the land set aside for it is also bought quickly by local elites. Admittedly that article was about Elephants and it mentions that Namibia has managed to create a more workable system. quote:“Since its inception, CAMPFIRE has been very successful,” the foundation’s website states. It says that households participating in CAMPFIRE increased their incomes by an estimated 15 to 25 percent. Trophy hunting will never have anything near the same number of people who just want to gawk at Rhinos and stuff, and that sort of tourism probably allows for better flow of money to local communities. Edit; This is really tangential, I apologize!
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Nov 21, 2015 06:51
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I'm so sorry that I brought up Cecil in the first place, I swear I'll never do it again.
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Nov 21, 2015 10:15
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Dapper_Swindler posted:well isn't Brussels/Belgium full of radicals? I'm frankly surprised they didn't panic and shut down everything the moment they discovered many of the perpetrators came from Brussels.
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Nov 21, 2015 11:25
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Dapper_Swindler posted:so apparently Belgium has placed Brussels at the highest terror alert level, citing a "serious and imminent threat." hopping its just cnn fear mongering and nothing happens. No it's pretty real. I don't know if they have some intelligence or are projecting their measures internationally to regain some respect but my mom isn't me letting on the train back to my town.
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Nov 21, 2015 11:43
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Unless your mom is the head of Belgium's security services I'm not sure 'overprotective parent' is a good barometer of terrorist activity.
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Nov 21, 2015 11:52
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According to lesoir, potential targets are malls, public transportations (Brussels' subway system has been shut off until at least tomorrow afternoon), chemicals and explosives have been found in Moleenbek.
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Nov 21, 2015 12:02
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So breaking news now is that Russia have sent France a puppy to replace the police dog that gave his life to protect our freedoms: http://news.sky.com/story/1591635/russia-sends-france-puppy-in-solidarity
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Nov 21, 2015 12:09
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Mr. Gibbycrumbles posted:So breaking news now is that Russia have sent France a puppy to replace the police dog that gave her life to protect our freedoms: Fixed. Diesel was a girl dog.
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Nov 21, 2015 12:40
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LemonDrizzle posted:cross-posting from the UKMT: I have to giggle at how they straight up passed a resolution calling these fuckers by a slur over and over again.
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Nov 21, 2015 12:47
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Orange Devil posted:I have to giggle at how they straight up passed a resolution calling these fuckers by a slur over and over again. The best is the comma before each instance of the name (or most of the instances of the name), almost as if the reader is pausing, looking the listener (in this case, daesh) in the eye, and drawing out the name. To people who know more about international law, is this resolution basically a legal justification for America's strikes in Syria? Or does it imply that the US still needs the approval of Assad (I think that's what the "within international law" part means).
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Nov 21, 2015 13:05
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Orange Devil posted:I have to giggle at how they straight up passed a resolution calling these fuckers by a slur over and over again. How is it a slur? The Wikipedia seems to say that it is just an abbreviation of its Arabic name: quote:The group is known in Arabic as ad-Dawlah al-Islāmiyah fī 'l-ʿIrāq wa-sh-Shām, leading to the acronym Da'ish or Daesh (داعش, Arabic pronunciation: [ˈdaːʕiʃ]),[36][37] the Arabic equivalent of "ISIL".
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Nov 21, 2015 13:15
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It's not really a slur but "daesh" sounds a bit like words with negative connotations:quote:ISIL considers the acronym Da'ish derogatory because with the appropriate conjugation it sounds similar to the Arabic words Daes, "one who crushes something underfoot", and Dahes, "one who sows discord".
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Nov 21, 2015 13:19
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New anti-terror dog better be all like "Cyka Blyat" before aany mission now.
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Nov 21, 2015 13:30
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Kassad posted:It's not really a slur but "daesh" sounds a bit like words with negative connotations: Yeah, but that's not why ISIS don't like it, they don't like it because they don't want to be known as an anocrym, they want to be known as 'The State'.
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Nov 21, 2015 13:34
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Tesseraction posted:As posted in the UKMT, it seems to have passed because it makes no mention of Assad and limits the combat to non-Assad forces. The question is how this affects Russia's bombing of the FSA, since the UN resolution is more about other countries (as Russia is already protected under international law because Assad requested their assistance). There's plenty of Al Nusra in the areas Russia is primarily bombing - that's all the cover they could ever want.
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Nov 21, 2015 13:35
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I never understood why the terrorists focus on the big cities, instead of wreaking havoc in bumfuck towns no one expects them to. Whenever someone of arab descent twitches, the big cities go on some sort of terror alert. You'd think that if you want to gently caress with a government, you try to spread their police forces thin. --edit: Point is, I live in Belgium. Brussels' on high alert, on edge and swarmed with cops. I live in a smaller city in the same country, and seeing a police patrol car around here is like spotting a chupacabra. Combat Pretzel fucked around with this message at 14:32 on Nov 21, 2015 |
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Nov 21, 2015 14:27
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Combat Pretzel posted:I never understood why the terrorists focus on the big cities, instead of wreaking havoc in bumfuck towns no one expects them to. Whenever someone of arab descent twitches, the big cities go on some sort of terror alert. You'd think that if you want to gently caress with a government, you try to spread their police forces thin. Arrest this man.
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Nov 21, 2015 14:31
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Combat Pretzel posted:I never understood why the terrorists focus on the big cities, instead of wreaking havoc in bumfuck towns no one expects them to. Whenever someone of arab descent twitches, the big cities go on some sort of terror alert. You'd think that if you want to gently caress with a government, you try to spread their police forces thin. I've always said this too. I'm reminded of Britain's Hungerford massacre - a bloke just walks into a sleepy village and shoots everyone up and armed police can't get there in time. Admittedly we learned from Hungerford and I'm sure measures are in place to respond more effectively these days, but still I'm surprised it's not a tactic we see from terrorists.
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Nov 21, 2015 14:39
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Mr. Gibbycrumbles posted:So breaking news now is that Russia have sent France a puppy to replace the police dog that gave his life to protect our freedoms:  The 21st century way of restarting the Entente 
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Nov 21, 2015 14:50
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Thump! posted:
I'm not sure recreating the politics that lead to the First World War is a good thing. 
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Nov 21, 2015 15:36
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Mr. Gibbycrumbles posted:I've always said this too. I'm reminded of Britain's Hungerford massacre - a bloke just walks into a sleepy village and shoots everyone up and armed police can't get there in time. Sorry but nobody cares about sleepy villages not even the terrorists.
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Nov 21, 2015 18:05
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Vladimir Putin posted:I think either way they are using the refugee pathway to gain entry into the EU. Honestly that's going to draw criticism for the refugee process because it can be demonstrated that terrorists used it as a pathway to their targets. The important question is whether they're using it as a pathway because it's easier or because it casts suspicion on refugees. ISIS hates the refugees a lot so anything they can do to slow down that exodus works in their favor.
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Nov 21, 2015 19:45
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http://www.thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/uncucumbered/anonymous_uncovers_isis_plans_for_a_series_of_attacks_tomorrow?recruiter_id=17 Anon is claiming they've exposed ISIS attacks planned for Atlanta, Paris, Rome, Indonesia, Milan, and Lebanon. The Atlanta attack was supposedly targetted at a WWE event in Atlanta, GA
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