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Proposition Joe posted:lol that the DNC is burying one of only six debates on a Saturday night. The most watched debate of the 2008 democratic primary was a Saturday.
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Tonight's debate is literally going to be the left side of this:
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Nov 15, 2015 01:05
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Also the Republicans have been trying to get that email poo poo to stick for years and gotten nowhere with it
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Nov 15, 2015 01:05
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This should be interesting - http://www.ibtimes.com/inside-twitters-cbs-news-debate-partnership-political-spotlight-may-finally-elevate-2183018 quote:Twitter inked a deal with CBS to integrate its services into the first presidential debate on broadcast TV, scheduled for Saturday at 9 p.m. EST at Drake University in Des Moines, Iowa. That prime-time opportunity follows Facebook’s partnership with Fox News for a Republican debate in August, which came after a 2012 deal with NBC and a 2008 partnership with ABC.
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Nov 15, 2015 01:06
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OTOH Hillary might just roll up her sleeves so everyone gets to see how hawkish she really is and get really turned off by it
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Nov 15, 2015 01:06
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BOOM!   All campaigns are equal, but some are more equal than others :bernget:
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Nov 15, 2015 01:14
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soo all the  streams require credit card data, that's fabJoementum posted:BOOM! uh, who's got no leverage? seriously though, I am terrified of what they must have traded away to get this
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Nov 15, 2015 01:20
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Joementum posted:BOOM! Clinton will have to settle for dominating instead of destroying her opponents. I'm curious as to what Sanders traded to get CBS to settle.
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Nov 15, 2015 01:21
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Joementum posted:BOOM! Um, if that's true, that's going to make the whole debate look bad. There ought to be some serious discussion of foreign policy, given the events of yesterday.
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Nov 15, 2015 01:23
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Only now did it hit really home that Lincoln Chafee won't be the next president of the United States 
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Nov 15, 2015 01:24
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rear end cobra posted:Only now did it hit really home that Lincoln Chafee won't be the next president of the United States 
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Nov 15, 2015 01:25
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Keep your hopes up though, I hear that Baby Hitler has topped numerous online polls and is a frontrunner for both parties.
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Nov 15, 2015 01:25
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dont blame me i voted for omalley
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Nov 15, 2015 01:26
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Whatever happened to Deez Nuts?
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Nov 15, 2015 01:26
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Maybe Hillary will figure out a way to explain in idiot bumpersticker language how Bush created ISIS by arming, training, and supporting a bunch of Sunni militias in Iraq.
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Nov 15, 2015 01:29
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Dead Cosmonaut posted:You blame anyone who was responsible for the Iraq invasion, because that's exactly what predicated ISIL. ISIL would have arose without the Iraq invasion.
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Nov 15, 2015 01:29
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DaveWoo posted:Um, if that's true, that's going to make the whole debate look bad. There ought to be some serious discussion of foreign policy, given the events of yesterday. Even if the debate is reverting back to its original format, I would be shocked if there weren't references to it scattered throughout the proceedings. I expect all the candidates to refer to it in their opening statements. WugLyfe posted:Whatever happened to Deez Nuts? Turned out to be a fifteen year old farmboy from Iowa.
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Nov 15, 2015 01:29
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DaveWoo posted:Um, if that's true, that's going to make the whole debate look bad. There ought to be some serious discussion of foreign policy, given the events of yesterday. I like it when all of these flat little lizards come out of the woodwork when things like these happen. There are only two things that can come out of the Paris attacks: fascism and the tangible benefits of hating immigrants.
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Nov 15, 2015 01:31
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Joementum posted:BOOM! Sounds like damage control; my bet is the debate proceeds as planned, with Bernie being told that he is free to withdraw his candidacy at any time if he wishes.
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Nov 15, 2015 01:32
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WugLyfe posted:Whatever happened to Deez Nuts? Shrinkage
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Nov 15, 2015 01:32
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WugLyfe posted:Whatever happened to Deez Nuts? Both ineligable for office, and winter set in.
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Nov 15, 2015 01:35
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So the only outcome of this pre-debate kerfuffle is that at some point Clinton slips in a line about "Some would rather not discuss the ugly realities we face in the world today..." and wins free points, basically?
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Nov 15, 2015 01:36
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Dead Cosmonaut posted:I like it when all of these flat little lizards come out of the woodwork when things like these happen. but these guys have to earn votes from the american electorate at some point so they cant just not vilify the Other if you don't at least offer a credible threat to respond to murder with murder and perpetuate the cycle you're not a viable candidate for president
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Nov 15, 2015 01:37
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Joementum posted:BOOM! If the debate doesn't at least put some focus on the Paris attacks that's definitely not going to look good. Sanders has to know he can't whine away problems as President or whine about unfairness in the face of relentless GOP attacks. CBS should've stuck to their guns and told him to not show up if he didn't like it.
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Nov 15, 2015 01:37
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QuoProQuid posted:Even if the debate is reverting back to its original format, I would be shocked if there weren't references to it scattered throughout the proceedings. I expect all the candidates to refer to it in their opening statements. Yeah, my guess is that they're just ditching the 90 second opening statements about the Paris attacks that CBS was asking each candidate to make.
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Nov 15, 2015 01:39
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rear end cobra posted:Only now did it hit really home that Lincoln Chafee won't be the next president of the United States And the American electorate chimes in with a resounding "Who? ...Oh wait, was he the Kohl's guy?"
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Nov 15, 2015 01:40
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oystertoadfish posted:but these guys have to earn votes from the american electorate at some point so they cant just not vilify the Other I'm depressed but your pretty much correct Expect Hillary to criticize Obama tonight for not being tough enough on ISIL
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Nov 15, 2015 01:41
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Valentin posted:So the only outcome of this pre-debate kerfuffle is that at some point Clinton slips in a line about "Some would rather not discuss the ugly realities we face in the world today..." and wins free points, basically? She could do this, but it's a pretty risky maneuver without a very clear idea of what actually happened. If it's at all different than what's been reported Bernie could zing her pretty bad.
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Nov 15, 2015 01:42
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A Neurotic Jew posted:She could do this, but it's a pretty risky maneuver without a very clear idea of what actually happened. If it's at all different than what's been reported Bernie could zing her pretty bad. Clinton is an excellent debater and would instantly win any kind of quick back and forth between Sanders or O'Malley. Obama tried a few times in 2008 and lost each time. Sanders would perform much worse given that its against his personality to be aggressive.
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Nov 15, 2015 01:44
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Dead Cosmonaut posted:I'm depressed good
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Nov 15, 2015 01:45
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Nov 15, 2015 01:45
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stephenfry posted:its very appropriate yeah as long as we're talking about sadness re: opinions and world realities and not harming self or others i think it helps one cope in the long run
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Nov 15, 2015 01:46
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Mitt Romney posted:Clinton is an excellent debater and would instantly win any kind of quick back and forth between Sanders or O'Malley. Obama tried a few times in 2008 and lost each time. Sanders would perform much worse given that its against his personality to be aggressive. Counterpoint: "You're likable enough."
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Nov 15, 2015 01:48
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FAUXTON posted:Counterpoint: "You're likable enough." How's that a counterpoint? That hurt Obama significantly right before NH and is widely credited as one of the reasons his numbers turned upside down before the NH election.
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Nov 15, 2015 01:49
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Tatum Girlparts posted:Wasn't there some poster here or in D&D before this subforum saying the debates being on saturday was a conspiracy by Clinton and DWS to rob poor Bernie? A republican strategist on CBS is saying basically this rght now
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Nov 15, 2015 01:49
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Mitt Romney posted:How's that a counterpoint? That hurt Obama significantly right before NH and is widely credited as one of the reasons his numbers turned upside down before the NH election. Oh, well in that case she flattened him. I'd for some reason thought he'd gotten a boost from that.
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Nov 15, 2015 01:52
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babypolis posted:A republican strategist on CBS is saying basically this rght now That's kind of dumb. Given her debate skills, I'm pretty sure Clinton would want as many people watching the debates as possible. There's no need for anyone to conjure up an elaborate conspiracy about the debate's timing (except for the Republicans, as it fuels their narrative about Clinton being dishonest and manipulative.)
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Nov 15, 2015 01:52
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Baby Hitler with a commanding lead
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Nov 15, 2015 01:52
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FAUXTON posted:Oh, well in that case she flattened him. I'd for some reason thought he'd gotten a boost from that. It's remembered as a notable moment so I think people tend to automatically assume it was a devastating cut-down, but it really played into the image of Obama as an arrogant ivory tower-type who had no experience on a national stage and no respect for his opponents (also made him look kinda sexist). As for the idea that calling Bernie out could turn out bad for Clinton if the attacks turn out not to be Daesh as is currently assumed, is that really the case? Even assuming this attacks turn out to be domestic in nature, then Bernie still doesn't want to talk about a massive domestic terror strike in one of the U.S.'s (putative) closest allies.
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QuoProQuid posted:That's kind of dumb. I think the idea is that Hillary has nothing to gain and much to lose from a debate, which is very much true. I mean every candidate wanted more debates, except Clinton.
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