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Vox Nihili
May 28, 2008

Necc0 posted:

For someone as on the ball as Hillary I was really surprised at her 9/11-wall St answer. What the hell was that. Props to CBS for calling her out on that.

Terrorism in France = invoke 9/11 as a pivot. Problem is that she did it at a completely idiotic time. It's probably something she was planning to use and consciously decided to use, but she dropped the ball on the timing/context. Should have been used to defend her hawkish/spying policies, not accepting bank lucre.

It's getting some play today, too.

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Vox Nihili
May 28, 2008

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Vox Nihili
May 28, 2008

Skeesix posted:

Frankly that would be worse at the college level. At least k-12 school is currently nationalized. Colleges (excepting community colleges) are in the business of being more elite than the next school. Throwing them more money and saying you'll cover college for everyone just means that schools will dump that money into the construction of buildings that only look good on a campus tour and make their school still more expensive. The only way to get something for your money is to nationalize the colleges and almost all of them will fight that tooth and nail. Especially if it looks like national k-12 is in bad shape, no one is going to want to be nationalized.

Especially private schools, but then they're in direct competition with public schools. Even now the better state schools that have had their funding cut by their states have been pushing for "partial privatization."

Free community college is a great idea that needs to happen yesterday. Free college is a much more complicated issue than people are making it out to be.

Bullshit, bullshit, bullshit. There is no fundamental reason that public colleges cannot be truly public institutions. This is how they work across most of the world and how they used to work in our own dumb country. It requires oversight and yanking them out of the upward-spiraling "marketplace" in which they compete with private colleges. Instead of running them like corporations, they need to be run like gov't entities. It's not just possible, it makes way more sense than the current infinite loans + no oversight free-for-all.

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