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The staffer outburst confirms my suspicions that tonight is going to be brutal for the Sanders campaign. I'll be interested in seeing what he brings to the table, but I don't have high expectations. What are O'Malley's views on foreign affairs? Is he a hawk or a dove? I don't really have the patience to dig through his rhetoric to find his positions.
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Joementum posted:BOOM! Clinton will have to settle for dominating instead of destroying her opponents. I'm curious as to what Sanders traded to get CBS to settle.
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DaveWoo posted:Um, if that's true, that's going to make the whole debate look bad. There ought to be some serious discussion of foreign policy, given the events of yesterday. Even if the debate is reverting back to its original format, I would be shocked if there weren't references to it scattered throughout the proceedings. I expect all the candidates to refer to it in their opening statements. WugLyfe posted:Whatever happened to Deez Nuts? Turned out to be a fifteen year old farmboy from Iowa.
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babypolis posted:A republican strategist on CBS is saying basically this rght now That's kind of dumb. Given her debate skills, I'm pretty sure Clinton would want as many people watching the debates as possible. There's no need for anyone to conjure up an elaborate conspiracy about the debate's timing (except for the Republicans, as it fuels their narrative about Clinton being dishonest and manipulative.)
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oystertoadfish posted:i suspect that most people dont pay anywhere near enough attention to be affected by pre/post-debate maneuvering by the lovely little staffers whose job it is to whine about this poo poo, similar things were done by various gop candidates' staffers before their debates and i don't think those situations were prominently cited in the analyses of the public post-debate reaction I agree. Unless Hillary or O'Malley explicitly brings it up, the only people offended by the tantrum will be party insiders who disliked Sanders to begin with. I still think it was a bad decision and shows problem within the Bernie camp, but I don't expect much of a public reaction.
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CBS talking heads are asking whether Martin O'Malley can use tonight to get momentum. I think I know the answer to this question.
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"Let's have a moment of silence." *looks at watch* "Okay, that's enough, back to our sponsors everyone."
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Yoshifan823 posted:Wow, he drove that right into the economy.  
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Nov 15, 2015 03:06
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PULL UP. PULL UP. PULL UP.
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Nov 15, 2015 03:14
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Martin O'Malley looks like a more serious candidate than Bernie right now.
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Nov 15, 2015 03:25
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Okay, Martin O'Malley still doesn't have any chance of winning, but he doesn't look like a complete embarrassment anymore.
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O'Malley sounds really good tonight. Gonna surge to 8% EDIT: oh no hillary oh nooooo
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Very impressed by CBS's handling of the debate. I know that they are helped by there being only three candidates, but the contrast with the Republican debates is really pronounced. Hillary and Bernie aren't doing well tonight.
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Martin O'Malley is giddy over his own success.
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Holy poo poo, these questions. God bless Twitter???
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Sanders: Health care is a right for all people. Clinton: I once had those hopes for single payer health care... but those dreams are dead now.
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Mitt Romney posted:Meanwhile Sanders has yet to explain how he's going to get medicare for all passed through congress. He won't and the plan is ridiculously improbable, but I found the contrast funny. I have more faith in Hillary to get actionable policy through Congress than Sanders.
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 Someone told Trump about O'Malley's comment @realDonaldTrump 7m7 minutes ago Hillary and Sanders are not doing well, but what is the failed former Mayor of Baltimore doing on that stage? O'Malley is a clown.
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Planarch posted:What was the first ever primary debate? Google isn't giving me anything. In 1948 Republican candidates Thomas Dewey and Harold Stassen held a radio debate during the nomination process. The Democrats did the same in 1956 with a debate between Adlai Stevenson and Estes Kefauver.
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I think Clinton is intentionally restraining herself because she knows that she will be the nominee and doesn't want to damage her credibility in the general election. She doesn't need grand idealism to win the nomination and is better suited my maintaining realistic expectations. The $12.00 answer is one such example of this. It is weird within the context of the Democratic Primary, and she took flak from it from both her opponents, but it makes sense as a response in a general election. The Republicans have been attacking the living wage since the cycle began. It is going to be a little more difficult to argue that a $12.00 wage is radical socialism. Her responses on economic policy were weak, but not exceptionally so. Bernie performed poorly tonight. He was hampered by the early focus on foreign policy and frequently got sidelined by O'Malley, of all people. He was much stronger on economic policy than Clinton, but I am afraid that his attacks on her are going to harm is favorability rating. There were several points throughout the debate, including his comment on Baltimore, where Sanders came off as aggressive and petty. Sanders is very good at harnessing populist anger, but seems ill-suited at personal attacks. I think this debate will harm his standing. O'Malley was the surprise for the night, if only because expectations for him were already so low. He was knowledgeable and articulate and provided a nice counter to Bernie and Clinton. If it weren't for his constant giddiness and interruptions, I would say that he even looked presidential. O'Malley was probably the winner this evening and will improve in the polls. He has no chance at the nomination, but he does look like a more credible politician. Otherwise, CBS and the moderators were the winners. That was a really phenomenal showing by the network. Let's hope they do just as well for the Republican debate. (They won't.) QuoProQuid has issued a correction as of 05:18 on Nov 15, 2015 |
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BeOSPOS posted:So who won tonight? 1. O'Malley 2. CBS 3. Twitter in that order
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WhiskeyJuvenile posted:Such a good showing for the network that they left enough of an impression on you such that you'd confuse NBC for CBS  turns out im an idiotnot sure where nbc came from
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