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Who will win the debate?
Hillary Clinton
Bernie Sanders
Martin O'Malley
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Dead Cosmonaut
Nov 14, 2015

by FactsAreUseless
I'm excited to hear 2 hours of Hillary talking about how much she intends to hurt ISIS while Sanders is bewildered by all of it.

All people will care about tonight is how much we're going to intervene in Syria. Clinton will probably cross tie Syria to her views on Iraq and Libya in order to vindicate herself.

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Dead Cosmonaut
Nov 14, 2015

by FactsAreUseless

My Imaginary GF posted:

You don't blame Clinton; you blame Obama's failure on taking initiative against ISIL, especially the "immaturity" of POTUS' comments yesterday morning to Stephatrunkalunkus, and allow the voters to insinuate that it was Clinton's fault for themselves.

You blame anyone who was responsible for the Iraq invasion, because that's exactly what predicated ISIL.

Dead Cosmonaut
Nov 14, 2015

by FactsAreUseless
Gotta have real talk on how much America needs to bomb browns.

Dead Cosmonaut
Nov 14, 2015

by FactsAreUseless
Actually watching liberals go through the mental gymnastics try to justify military intervention is a lot more entertaining than watching conservatives- especially since they start unironically talk about Middle East.

Dead Cosmonaut
Nov 14, 2015

by FactsAreUseless
Hillary: "I was tougher than Obama on foreign policy because..."

Dead Cosmonaut
Nov 14, 2015

by FactsAreUseless
OTOH Hillary might just roll up her sleeves so everyone gets to see how hawkish she really is and get really turned off by it

Dead Cosmonaut
Nov 14, 2015

by FactsAreUseless

DaveWoo posted:

Um, if that's true, that's going to make the whole debate look bad. There ought to be some serious discussion of foreign policy, given the events of yesterday.

I like it when all of these flat little lizards come out of the woodwork when things like these happen.

There are only two things that can come out of the Paris attacks: fascism and the tangible benefits of hating immigrants.

Dead Cosmonaut
Nov 14, 2015

by FactsAreUseless

oystertoadfish posted:

but these guys have to earn votes from the american electorate at some point so they cant just not vilify the Other

if you don't at least offer a credible threat to respond to murder with murder and perpetuate the cycle you're not a viable candidate for president

I'm depressed but your pretty much correct

Expect Hillary to criticize Obama tonight for not being tough enough on ISIL

Dead Cosmonaut
Nov 14, 2015

by FactsAreUseless

Tatum Girlparts posted:

Hello left wing Ron Paul, it's been a long time coming.

Can we just call Hillary Clinton supporters Bill Clinton supporters?

Please sir, tell us what you think about mandatory minimum sentencing, housing deregulation, and welfare reform.

EugeneJ posted:

Jeff Weaver's the rear end in a top hat who made the "yes we might consider Hillary for VP...we might even grant her an interview!" comment a few weeks back

He's an idiot

Literally every presidential campaign ever has done this. It's a common jab.

Dead Cosmonaut
Nov 14, 2015

by FactsAreUseless

Valentin posted:

I don't know that the "Bernie tries to stop discussion of Paris" story will stick, but media twitter is doing some performative outrage all over it, and the media loves performing outrage for as long as you'll let it. Don't be surprised if it sticks around.

It really doesn't matter. Hillary is not going to shut up about it at tonight's debate.

Dead Cosmonaut
Nov 14, 2015

by FactsAreUseless

Tatum Girlparts posted:

I adore that you can't even fathom why 'the media' wouldn't be super jazzed about a campaign having a tantrum and forcing a debate to change to what they want. Like, not event he republicans' pissfests could make their debate shift that much but suddenly Sanders' smug little dude has a meltdown and things change?

In other words, let's talk about pure hatred, racism, and xenophobia tonight. These are all constructive, helpful discussions to the Democratic party TYOL 2015.

Dead Cosmonaut
Nov 14, 2015

by FactsAreUseless

Tatum Girlparts posted:

What does this even mean. Like, do you think we shouldn't talk about bad things because bad things make us sad?

Because anything relating to ISIS is probably going to be done and over with before the end of this election, and that what will be seen tonight is pure fantasy. Like, "if I were President now I would murder browns THIS hard :smug:".

Dead Cosmonaut
Nov 14, 2015

by FactsAreUseless

AlternateNu posted:

I'm pretty sure if we could guarantee every member of ISIS a $15/hour job as long as they stopped killing people, it would do a decent dent in their numbers.

Or maybe stop invading foreign countries in such a way that you destabilize the whole goddamn region.

Dead Cosmonaut
Nov 14, 2015

by FactsAreUseless
We have to remind everyone that France is indeed a western democracy

Dead Cosmonaut
Nov 14, 2015

by FactsAreUseless
Fun fact: US involvement in Lebanon was one of the reasons cited by Bin Laden for 9/11

Dead Cosmonaut
Nov 14, 2015

by FactsAreUseless
O'Malley and Sanders teaming up to tear down Clinton?

Dead Cosmonaut
Nov 14, 2015

by FactsAreUseless
lol Gadaffi

Here comes her very expected defense of her intervention of Libya

Dead Cosmonaut
Nov 14, 2015

by FactsAreUseless

Joementum posted:

Can we have John Dickerson moderate all debates?

He's from Slate right?

Dead Cosmonaut
Nov 14, 2015

by FactsAreUseless
Here comes the pipe dream of democracy in the Middle East

Dead Cosmonaut
Nov 14, 2015

by FactsAreUseless
Jihadists vs. Radical Islam? :confused:

Dead Cosmonaut
Nov 14, 2015

by FactsAreUseless
Drone submarine that can carry a tactical nuke? : /

Dead Cosmonaut
Nov 14, 2015

by FactsAreUseless

Absurd Alhazred posted:

This is pretty much as bad as I expected it to be for Bernie.

You have high expectations

Dead Cosmonaut
Nov 14, 2015

by FactsAreUseless
We need Big Strong Leaders to comfort us in all of our insecurities in response to something of consequence to our own foreign policy disasters

Dead Cosmonaut
Nov 14, 2015

by FactsAreUseless

Cruel and Unusual posted:

Barack Obama is ten times the organizer that Bernie is.

But not 1/10th the Socialist

Dead Cosmonaut
Nov 14, 2015

by FactsAreUseless
If Sanders is the left's Ron Paul and Hillary Clinton is the left's Bill Clinton

Does that make O'Malley the left's Donald Trump?

Dead Cosmonaut
Nov 14, 2015

by FactsAreUseless

Brodeurs Nanny posted:

I also have to admit as someone who is fervent for Bernie that he needs to start being substantive or he's toast, he can't keep stump speeching

He's been saying the same thing he has been saying for years. People just started listening.

Dead Cosmonaut
Nov 14, 2015

by FactsAreUseless
oh gently caress

Dead Cosmonaut
Nov 14, 2015

by FactsAreUseless
Annie Oakley :lol:

Dead Cosmonaut
Nov 14, 2015

by FactsAreUseless
Whoever did that Tweet for President

Dead Cosmonaut
Nov 14, 2015

by FactsAreUseless

"My name is Paul Krugman and I'm sorry"

Dead Cosmonaut
Nov 14, 2015

by FactsAreUseless
If anything O'Malley is going to nab some of the people polling for Clinton

Dead Cosmonaut
Nov 14, 2015

by FactsAreUseless

So he said it was okay because the financial elite were upset about it?

Dead Cosmonaut
Nov 14, 2015

by FactsAreUseless
Summary of what the debate post discussion in RSF is gonna be:

1. Clinton supporters upset that they didn't talk about ISIS more
2. Sander supporters upset about they didn't talk about ISIS and guns less
3. O'Malley being :smug: as a placebo leftist

Dead Cosmonaut
Nov 14, 2015

by FactsAreUseless

Nintendo Kid posted:

Didn't realize you hate Karl Marx all of a sudden

Karl Marx was a social scientist first and an economist second

Dead Cosmonaut
Nov 14, 2015

by FactsAreUseless

Joementum posted:

Finally, Rhode Island can be free :911:

"Ratifying the Constitution was a mistake"

Dead Cosmonaut
Nov 14, 2015

by FactsAreUseless
Sure are a lot of white people in the background

Dead Cosmonaut
Nov 14, 2015

by FactsAreUseless

Craptacular! posted:

Bernie, why is it black people have to smoke weed again?

I don't understand this line of "legalize weed = lower jailed black population." Either the system is racist or it isn't; and if it is then black people will disproportionately be in jail no matter what the laws are.

It's a messing argument with only a few words, but I interpreted as "police should stop profiling black people using federal marijuana laws"

Dead Cosmonaut
Nov 14, 2015

by FactsAreUseless
Free school is bad because Donald Trump's kids

Dead Cosmonaut
Nov 14, 2015

by FactsAreUseless

Brannock posted:

"My husband" "My husband" "My husband" "My husband"

Is that what she calls Bill in private?

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Dead Cosmonaut
Nov 14, 2015

by FactsAreUseless
Was anyone surprised about Hillary coming out of the closet as a right wing hack to the Democratic party the same way a preteen would come out as a gay to his Mormon parents?

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