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I'm gonna be honest, if I didn't data mine the food data and found out exactly what the Blind effect food did, I don't think I would have attempted this. Without it, the fight is a massive RNG fest almost on the level of the Abyssal God. Oh and for anyone wondering what I mean by having a Sovereign, Medic and a Troubadour for surviving Eternal Exodus. And if you're wondering how to deal with the thing in Classic Mode.
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That's a ton of unholy poo poo by Atlas. May they NEVER create something like that again for DLC.
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Level Seven posted:That's a ton of unholy poo poo by Atlas. May they NEVER create something like that again Agreed. I only ever fought this boss using a cheese strategy. Seeing it's a seven phase fight that lasts 60+ turns made my eyes glaze over.
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Shed thy Tears is a perfect summary of that entire fight, holy poo poo.
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Oct 14, 2016 00:59
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loving hell Fetus, that fight looked like one giant horrible slog. They BETTER let you bring that loving sword over into EO3U when/if it happens, that's a bragging rights reward that should loving transfer over, even if as only a trophy
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You can get more than one, so I doubt it'll be transferable.
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Final Update: No More Game (Lumen vs. Ur-Child)   We begin the final update with something slightly unorthodox: cooking the last of the foods. Pumpkin Pie restores 15% of whatever damage a party member takes as TP. Really not that fantastic, since any damage that doesn't overkill someone this late in the game will restore a paltry amount. Colette, for example, can take around 500 damage before dying, which would give her about 52 TP.   Eastern Nishime forces all encounters on FOEs and bosses (aside from event encounters, Ur-Child, and Ur-Devil) to be preemptives. Meh. Not really that useful by this point.   Dangerous Flowering Tea forces all ailments and binds to last at least 3 turns--the turn of infliction, plus two extra turns. Since binds are already forced to last for at least infliction + 1 turn, it basically just adds 1 guaranteed turn to any ailment/bind. I actually got pretty decent use out of this on my first EO2U run, where I had a Dark Hunter without a Hexer, meaning that any binds I could inflict were absurdly precious. With these two foods, we have now cooked every single food from every single recipe book. Exiting FOEbucks and re-entering triggers the following scene.     These are the dragon food recipe books, and they only contain one recipe each.   Court Haute Cuisine gives the party a 10% chance to restore any broken Force gauges after the end of a battle. Why the gently caress would you ever want this? This does literally nothing for your party while you're actually in a battle.   Traditional Osechi disables all non-event random encounters. Some of the 6th Stratum floors can be serious pains with regards to random encounters, so this might actually be useful if you feel like skipping them.   Imperial Manhan Quanxi activates when all party members have died, and revives everyone at 1 HP, once per battle. This late in the game, trying to recover from a situation where everyone's left at 1 HP is incredibly difficult at best and impossible at worst. Cooking all of the dragon foods triggers this scene upon leaving and reentering FOEbucks.[/i]    I eat the Orange-Sauce Kaiju Steak before leaving for the final fight.                      (Colette has a Kerykeion equipped for the +200 TP. She's not going to be attacking much, anyway.) Well, I'm about as prepared as I'll ever be. Only thing I could do to be even more prepared is retire everyone and grind them up to 99 again, but that's wholly unnecessary for Ur-Child, even on Expert.      VIDEO: Last Boss: Ur-Child Watch the full 17 minute video if you want to get a live view of how tedious and annoying Ur-Child can be.   Go look at the Ur-Child pre-fight overview if you want a refresher on its stats or pattern.  Spamming Barrier is basically Colette's one and only job for the Ur-Child fight. In this case, it'll make Ur-Child essentially waste a turn on a Dance with Lunacy that won't do anything.  I mean, why not?   Ranger uses Transform immediately because...uh, I don't really remember. It would've been more prudent to just wait until I have my full buff setup going.   Standard setup for these two.    Dance with Lunacy makes it really hard to even start the fight if you don't have Barrier or Prevent Order.  Yeah, uh, this is kind of lackluster and a waste of two Transform turns. I should've just waited until Ranger had Warrior Song, a Prelude, and Shock Fantasia.   This is my defensive strategy for the fight: Ursa tanks everything while Colette stops disables from anything she tanks. Given that Ursa is self-reliant as far as HP goes, thanks to her auto-healing passives, Colette shouldn't have to stop using Barrier unless there's no reason to use it for a given turn.  I want to save Stardust's Force for when Ur-Child's close to drawing out the Origin Buds.  Shock Fantasia'll benefit both Stardust and Ranger.     Ah, Auto-Heal.  That's better.  While this damage is good, remember that Ur-Child effectively has 170k HP when you factor in Noble Rest heals. We're gonna be here for a while.  See?  I'm not even really close to ending the first phase, so I have Ranger use Extend. Fun fact: I forgot that Accelerate exists when doing this fight. I literally did not use it even once.    The Bikini Armor helps a lot with tanking Ur-Child's elementals, especially when they hit 4 or 5 times.   Pity the Weak does actually hit pretty hard, and lops off over half of Ursa's HP.  Until that happens.   Now that I have my buffs in order, I'm averaging about 10k damage a turn.   A couple of turns, consisting of more of the same, pass. I'm gonna get my Force back soon, anyway, might as well have Ranger just force the phase change.  Alright, here we go. I got my complaining about the Origin Buds out of the way in the pre-fight overview, so let's just get to killing them.   Like so.       Since Eternal Exodus is coming out, I have everyone Defend to reduce it to pitiful levels of damage.       Colette will patch everyone up, because why not? Can't do much on this turn anyway, since Ur-Child's gonna use Unhand Me.      Much better.  This is a stupid goddamn mistake I didn't need to make, which could cost me the fight if Behold my Power inflicts something nasty.  Howling Winds is gonna come out soon, so I might as well just use Desperation now.  Ranger uses Transform again. Hopefully he can maintain it until the Origin Buds come out this time.  Okay, paralysis is annoying, but not run-ending. I'll deal. This'll only go really bad if Howling Winds is brought out.   Having a Fafnir instead of a Ronin for this fight is so much better, you have no idea.  If Ursa fails to act this turn, I might as well keep everyone else from getting a disable inflicted on them.  By the way, we're 11 turns into the fight, and I've only dealt this much damage.  Okay, we're safe for this turn.    Phew.  Inching towards victory.   Tanking the elementals without Bikini Armor (on Expert, at least) can be incredibly difficult.  Oh hey, we moved to the next phase.  Colette'll use Fairy Robe to purge off Ursa's paralysis.    While these three erase the Origin Buds.    Basically undid the Noble Rest cast for this phase.    And now that phase 4 is over, I get to play a fun game called "stall like a moron for 8 turns while I wait for Sunlight's Dawn." I'm terrified of doing anything more than just scratching Ur-Child, since dealing even a little too much damage will cause Ur-Child to skip Sunlight's Dawn.  A bunch of turns pass where everyone just does random things and Ursa tanks, until this turn. Ursa HAS to die to this cast of Howling Winds, or else I'm gonna get wiped by Value of Solitude.  If Ursa had procced Deadly Resolve there, that would've been a game over.   Value of Solitude still hurts a little when you have one or more dead party members.      And that stupid mess is now over, thankfully.  And another stupid mess begins. I now have to kill two waves of Origin Buds back-to-back. This can be absolute hell if you end up skipping that Sunlight's Dawn.   Between these two, though, it's not that hard. Just wipe the first wave with normal skills and then Akashic Nova + Eschaton the next.  Left one ate 6 hits, right one ate 4.  The left one should be really close to death.   My Realm would be really dangerous if Barrier didn't exist. As is, it's just some really minor (I'm talking double digits) almighty damage at the end of a turn.  Okay, yeah, these things are going down on this turn.    And there's the last of these stupid things.    Last time I have to do this for the Origin Buds.     With those things dead, victory is at hand.  Incoming Eternal Exodus.  Yawn.   And now that we've got our Force back for the last time, it's time to go all out and finish this. After the Unhand Me turn, of course.   Milly can dispel that with a Metopon, but Ursa'll have to eat a buffed attack before that happens.  Good thing Desperation exists.  That sweet, sweet "Defeated Ur-Child!" message is so close I can taste it. As much as I can taste the dialogue box equivalent of printf("Defeated %s!", enemy_formation[0]->name), anyway. Skipping a couple of turns of the same damage dealing...      I think ending on a crescendo of Force Breaks is appropriate.           It's all over.    The last time we'll be seeing those notifications.  SYSTEM: But its power is so incredible that it seems the battle will never end... At last, however, victory appears to be nigh! You land a powerful blow on the demon's forehead and it recoils in pain! The fiend collapses onto the floor, its body dissolving into light before disappearing... It is done. You have mastered everything the Labyrinth can offer. Your names will be remembered always in the history of this nation... As Guild Lumen, the Heroes of High Lagaard!   See the icon in the center of the Guild Card icons? You only get that for defeating Ur-Child on Expert.  And here's the QR code for this final Guild Card, if you're playing along at home and want a memento of Guild Lumen.   Talking to Dubois after getting 100% monster/item completion triggers this final big of dialogue.  The Hero Mark's a slight upgrade over the Ducal Mark--it gives +5 to all stats, in addition to the Ducal Mark's +80 HP/TP.  After Dubois finishes his dialogue, you're shown the final credits, which are...just the credits again, without any dialogue from the town denizens, and with really boring music that's not even on the EO2U soundtrack. Just listen to the EO3 credits music instead if you want some musical backing. Also, pretend that all that follows from here takes place maybe two weeks or so after killing Ur-Child.     Exhilarating credits, I know.  And so, Guild Lumen's adventures come to a close. Thank you to everyone who read, and/or participated in the thread. I had a lot of fun making the LP, and I hope you had fun experiencing it. Until next time, goodbye.  
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I would like to, once again, thank everyone who's followed this thread, no matter where you started. I may have complained about the postgame, but I still overall enjoy EO2U a whole lot, and I hope that came through in the LP. EO5 should be going up within 2 hours or so. I'll post the link when it does. Lastly, one last gigantic thanks to Dr. Fetus, who went above and beyond what I expected of a Story LP, and saved me from doing some stuff I was seriously dreading.
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 Glad to have been a part of this LP with Sophie and following it in general. This was probably the LP that I checked back on the most, and I've been reading old updates in my spare time just to reminisce. You did an incredibly good job, Ragnar, and I'm sort of sad that it's over.But I mean I guess that's what your next LP is for, you crazy bastard 
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It's kind of sad seeing an LP end. At least we'll have another EO one soon, though.  I do wonder if you have plans to do EOU or EO4 at some point, though.
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Oct 14, 2016 03:27
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The EO5 LP is live.
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Oct 14, 2016 03:49
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And so it ends. Funny thing about the Story LP. Originally I just wanted to show off the Ur-Devil fight with the Story party as bonus content. Then that idea expanded into the Story LP, which was supposed to be just a small side project, but ended up being bigger than I intended.  Still I had fun doing it, and reading this LP.
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Oct 14, 2016 03:52
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Shame Asriel didn't get more screen time, but I suppose that's the way of things when Atlus designs this game to be more about optimization and screen nukes when you have bosses making GBS threads out adds left and loving right. Poor, poor Ronin were given a bad hand to deal with, ah well.
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Oct 14, 2016 04:21
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 Well done, well done to both of you. A quality LP, and a heaping mound of bullshit to end it off. Good times have been had.Thanks for the ride, guys.
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Thanks for the fun LP! I enjoyed how much effort you put into the characterization of the party. I hope that the next one is as good as this one was.
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Oct 14, 2016 05:25
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Thanks a ton for this LP, and congrats to Dr. Fetus for beating that nightmare of a boss! 
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Oct 14, 2016 09:07
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I'm going to miss this LP since this did cause me to be interested in Etrian Odyssey and get all of the available main games on the 3DS. This has been a fun LP and I certainly won't forget it.
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Oct 14, 2016 09:38
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A good LP, a good game and a good narrative. On to the new LP, bitches!
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Oct 14, 2016 13:15
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Great let's play, and I loved how you made use of all the submitted characters (Not just mine! Honest!) Really excited for the next one.
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Echoing that this has been a great LP, informative and with a great narrative throughout. Having some of the BS moves the game likes to throw, it's been good to see it the whole way through and the whole of story mode too. Looking forward to following the next LP too!
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(I think I've just realized that I never was ready to fight Ur-Child, even if I haven't tried again in like 2 months) Congrats on a fight well fought, as usual. To you and to Fetus. I'm probably in the minority here, but when you two make it look so easy (and I know for a fact it is not), it almost does look fun. I can't quite explain the feeling, but a battle that A) goes smooth as silk or B) is saved from the brink of destruction just feels even more worth it.
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The Ur-Devil fight just looked... painful.  Anyway, well done, both of you.
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Thank you both - both for convincing me to buy this game, and convincing me not to buy the DLC. Onwards to another Yggdrasil!
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So Ur-Devil is basically smashing your head against the wall until it works, and it still has 1 last luck based gently caress you at the end? Yeah... that is special, for lack of a better word. Thank you Dr. Fetus for showing that off as well as the story LP and thank you Ragnar for showing off this game.
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Thanks for the great Let's Play, you two. I really enjoyed seeing this game in action, and I'm going to miss Realga and Stardust and everyone. Can't wait to see how the EO5 thread unfolds!
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"toss out random bullshit, count on the players to deal" is pretty much all you could really do for an even slightly interesting boss fight. And you actually get Ur-Child grimoires? Are any of them, like, any good?
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Glazius posted:And you actually get Ur-Child grimoires? Are any of them, like, any good? No. Null thy Strength and Pity the Weak don't hit that hard and their debuffs suck, while Eternal Exodus suffers the same "can only hit a target a few times" limit.
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Can I ask if you plan to put this on the archive? I have a friend whos a huge EO fan, and I know he'd enjoy the hell out of this.
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MythosDragon posted:Can I ask if you plan to put this on the archive? I have a friend whos a huge EO fan, and I know he'd enjoy the hell out of this. I sent an archive request to baldurk a little over a week ago. Just waiting on that. I deliberated going back and editing a lot of the older updates to add in info I got from datamining (and in the case of the really old updates, changing the enemy writeup formats to what I used later), but I decided against it due to the time investment needed and the fact that several updates were already ramming the character limit as is.
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Thanks for the quick reply, and the good news.
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