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karmicknight
Aug 21, 2011
We need to draft Paine/Hamilton in 1792. Barring that, we need to either vote a National Unity Government of Adams/Burr or a national unity government of Adams/Washington.

Four more years of Adams either way.

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karmicknight
Aug 21, 2011

JosefStalinator posted:

Burr is more of a Nixon than a Trump. Only his fall from grace came before he could become president, not during.

When was Burr's last press-conference duel ever?

karmicknight
Aug 21, 2011

Ibogaine posted:

Edit: Foobardog convinced me. S. Adams/Burr all the way!

You got the right state, but not the right man.

S. Adams/Jay Unity Government - Because Nothing Can Go Wrong With Theocrats, Francophiles, and Anti-Slavers.

edit: Also known as Northern Supremacy ticket.

karmicknight
Aug 21, 2011
When it comes time for the Jacksonian revolution, the call to action will be "My President can beat-up your Kings."

karmicknight
Aug 21, 2011

Raskolnikov38 posted:

Someday John Jay will President.


Someday :smith:

And that day is in 1801. John Jay/CC Pinckney.

The Vice President has earned his time to take over for His Highness, the President, who has broken with his party, the party of rulers and leaders, the Federalists.
Mr. Hamilton's Southern proxy would be an excellent choice for President of the Senate to coalesce coalitions aligning with both Vice President Jay's interests and Mr. Hamilton's policies, giving us the closest to a true Hamilton government our nation is capable of. (drat Adams and that letter Mr. Hamilton wrote about him)

karmicknight
Aug 21, 2011
SA Decides, 1788-2000: "Hamilton Appreciation Station."

karmicknight
Aug 21, 2011

QuoProQuid posted:

The real reason I started this thread was to get a bunch of goons really into musical theatre.

Now someone just needs to make a musical about Henry Clay or Daniel Webster.

I would love the poo poo out of a "gently caress Andrew Jackson" musical.

karmicknight
Aug 21, 2011
Welcome folks, to lovely Slate of Candidates Era.

Corpse of Hamilton (pbuh)/Rufus King 1804.


GlyphGryph posted:

Was there anyone else notable running in this election that just didn't receive any electoral votes, or was this really all there was?

Candidates are just going to get worse until the gently caress Andrew Jackson Alliance begins to give us options again.

These Democratic-Republicans will do what His Elective Majesty Mr. Adams couldn't do, destroy the Republic.

karmicknight
Aug 21, 2011

Takanago posted:

Is this our first chance to vote for a Third Party candidate? Cause I think I feel like wasting my vote on Monroe

Monroe is an enemy of progress and centralization.

Vote Federalist for a strong central democracy.

Any man who would strike down the Bank of the United States is unable to understand the realities of the American economy.

karmicknight
Aug 21, 2011
While it pleases me to see two Federalist tickets this election, as well as seeing Clinton move from the Democratic-Republican camp thanks to Mr. Madison, we are still being denied the electoral process we deserve, one which the Democratic-Republicans destroyed in their bid to get Thomas Jefferson elected with the help of John Adams (pbuh).

Repeal the Twelfth Amendment.


(also, King/Davie '12 for the real Federalist ticket)

karmicknight
Aug 21, 2011
King/Ross, a Ticket for a more tolerant America, and we all love tolerance, don't we?

QuoProQuid posted:

And given we're a decade past the death of Alexander Hamilton, we're probably going to need a new thread title.

SA Decides, 1788-2000: "Shoot Henry Clay and Hang John C. Calhoun"

karmicknight
Aug 21, 2011
A thing to remember about James Monroe (the loser who won this shitheap of an election and the farcical comedy of the election of 1820) and JQA (Monroe's Secretary of State and future Elective Majesty President) was that the Monroe doctrine was entirely serious when they made it. From the perspective of the US at this time, they were the premier player on the Americas. However, internal tensions, religious zeal, expansionism and loving Texans are a big part of the American identity for this period (Era of Good Feelings to the start of the Civil War). With this election, Jackson hasn't made politics an issue the common man thinks about yet so we're still dealing with times where an endorsement can come from a political enemy because the other option has no beliefs.

karmicknight
Aug 21, 2011

Corek posted:

Also the biggest inheritor of the Hamiltonian ideology in the short term will be Henry Clay. But I don't think he's going to win in 1824.

Yeah, I'm ready to hitch my horse to the dead cause that is the Whigs once our One True Federalists dream.

Aliquid posted:

The common man was already thinking about politics, he just couldn't yet vote.

Far more accurate, my mistake.

karmicknight
Aug 21, 2011

Alter Ego posted:

Goons will all ironically vote for Strom Thurmond.

"With the shear weight of the socialist nation we have made, Strom Thurmond is a funny blip, rather than inhuman gently caress-up."
:goonsay:

karmicknight
Aug 21, 2011
Vote Henry Clay, receive Parliamentary Democracy.

Empress Theonora posted:

As Hamilton trash, we should know that Vice President isn't a real job anyway.

"The Vice Presidency isn't worth a bucket of warm piss." - Known Opinion Haver, John "Cactus Jack" Garner IV.

karmicknight
Aug 21, 2011

Carrasco posted:

I can't believe someone would stoop so low as to characterize Andrew Jackson as a bloodthirsty maniac.

Some people like to use the truth to describe someone, despite fears that Andrew Jackson might personally try and kill them. These people are suicidal.

karmicknight
Aug 21, 2011

Corek posted:

ENGLISHMAN thomas paine

Englishman, Shmenglishman. If any London drunk embodies the American Spirit (Prior to the Communist Manifesto sends us off the deep end into L'Internationale) It's "Common Sense" Tommy Paine.

karmicknight
Aug 21, 2011
If only Martin Van Buren was running on his lonesome, with the corpse of whoever beat Jackson to the nomination, obviously.

Instead I must defend the American System and vote for Henry Clay.

karmicknight
Aug 21, 2011

QuoProQuid posted:

Oh, Hamilton will die many more times before this project is over.

Speaking of which, the very last Federalist to hold a major political office has just been forced to step down as Mayor of Boston. And so, Hamilton's party officially dies.

Well, at least we Hamiltonians still have:

The Federalist Party
The Bank of the United States
Vermont
National Debt
No Term Limits
Neutrality
American System
The Treasury Department
Revenue Cutter Service
The Fight Against Slavery
gently caress the South

karmicknight
Aug 21, 2011

Alfred P. Pseudonym posted:

Webster/Devil '36

This.

I literally forgot how much Van Buren threw in with Jackson in his time as VP. Van Buren is a great candidate if you just look at his compromises to Jacksonian thought. But his loving rhetoric is Jackson through and through and I can't vote for Jackson. So, America's Greatest Lawyer gets my vote.

karmicknight
Aug 21, 2011
I just noticed that The Devil and Daniel Webster is listed as one of the helpful resources. When will Mr. Scratch be on a ballot near us.

Edit:

Heteroy posted:

There was an episode of The Dollop Podcast about Richard Johnson. I remembered him turning absolutely nuts, even without remembering the hollow earth stuff. The title of the episode could be considered a spoiler.

Also he loving killed Tecumseh.

Also, this was a top flight recommendation.

karmicknight has issued a correction as of 13:18 on Feb 13, 2016

karmicknight
Aug 21, 2011
Where is the option for Martin Van Buren / No Candidate. Had No Candidate been on the ballot, I feel I would like Van Buren's chances. As I am unwilling to vote John Tyler into the White House. And Van Buren lacks his perfect running mate, time for the third party game, I guess. Someday elections are going to get interesting for not bad reasons.

edit: I still don't get why everyone loving hates the Freemasons. Like, do secret societies just cause the entire American public to decide Freemason delenda est?

karmicknight has issued a correction as of 16:27 on Feb 14, 2016

karmicknight
Aug 21, 2011

QuoProQuid posted:

And then John Quincy Adams saw what was happening and tried to enlarge it to defeat Andrew Jackson. If people couldn't unite around the National Republicans, then maybe fear of further chaos could unite them.

QuoProQuid posted:

Lucky for you, there's at least one Hamilton around that has served in a Cabinet position. Maybe, he'll run for office and destroy everything his father worked to achieve.

This here is why you vote for ideological dynasties, rather than the simple familial kind.

karmicknight
Aug 21, 2011
It will be one of the better elections.

Also, I can only assume that the more legitimate politicians end up in congress, and that Congress ends up winning the balance of powers as the goon overmind elects fringe maniacs and Full Communists to the executive, and the judiciary is toothless from the word go. We probably saw Washington as either president pro tempore or Speaker of the House to actually unite the nation with His Excellency.

karmicknight
Aug 21, 2011

Thump! posted:

Because we let Texas write our textbooks for some godawful reason.

Oil & blood gets a lot a people in one big state. :capitalism:

karmicknight
Aug 21, 2011

Octatonic posted:

IMO this entire thread has been a pretext or a secret race to post this song. Congratulations! You won!

This thread is a lot like the Papists and the Freemasons. It has a lot of secret agendas and seeks to convert you to its brand of thinking. Also, it should be birnt to the ground.


That being said, Vote Clay.

karmicknight
Aug 21, 2011

oystertoadfish posted:

every time i see an old newspaper the font is tiny, even in these kinds of things, the market for high-magnification reading glasses must've been booming

It's a conspiracy of the crypto-literates and their monopoly on the glass production lines.

karmicknight
Aug 21, 2011

Nebakenezzer posted:

VOTE HENRY CLAY, GOLEM OF LIBERTY!


Pictured, Speaker Clay emerging from a Papist monster-beast.

karmicknight
Aug 21, 2011

Nebakenezzer posted:

PPS> Is James Polk literally the devil? The answer may surprise you.

That's because the answer is actually no, but James Polk has expressed his willingness to be a vessel for the Devil (alias Andrew Jackson) on a number of occasions relating to his presence in the White House. Let not Mr. Jackson's anger addled spirit step through the American threshold. Vote Henry Clay.

karmicknight
Aug 21, 2011
Smith is also against all alcohol, meaning that he's managed to alienate the hard cider camp worse than Van Buren.

karmicknight
Aug 21, 2011
Would you vote for this comic strip?



I wouldn't.

karmicknight
Aug 21, 2011
Oh god, eight terms of Adams might have caused the nation to collapse under the weight of his many titles.

karmicknight
Aug 21, 2011
As a proud and loyal American Catholic, I am proud to vote for the Native American Party and candidate Jacob Broom.

karmicknight
Aug 21, 2011
Thread subtitles you say,
SA Decides, 1788 - 2000 "'Well, We Already Bought the Tickets' - Abraham Lincoln."
SA Decides, 1788 - 2000 "Free soil, Free labor, Free speech, Free men, Frémont"
edit: SA Decides, 1788 - 2000 "The Birth of the Grand Old Party"

karmicknight
Aug 21, 2011

Alter Ego posted:

SA Decides, 1788-2000: We're Gonna Elect Eugene Debs To Seven Consecutive Terms

Debs love gets to wait in line behind "We Shall Not Crucify Mankind Upon A Cross of Gold," which needs to happen when we start up the William Jennings Bryan hype.

karmicknight
Aug 21, 2011

Thump! posted:

Huh, so we inadvertently caused the North to secede instead? Neat!

It'd be a nice change of pace, yes.

karmicknight
Aug 21, 2011
Free Soil, Free Labor, Free Speech, Free Men, Fremont

karmicknight
Aug 21, 2011

Pakled posted:

These Constitutional Union guys have the right idea. We should all just stop worrying about slavery! I don't see how that could possibly go wrong.

To be fair, we have done Abolitionism to (the) death (of the United States). We might want to take our foot off the gas pedal at some point.

karmicknight
Aug 21, 2011

John Dough posted:

A vote for Bell is a vote for the Constitution :patriot:

also a vote against hundreds of thousands dying in a gruesome war

That genie is what we call, out of the bottle as it were. The South was never going to give up slaves willingly, it's time to take their toy away from them (again).


MMM Whatchya Say posted:

Finally the civil wars will be over

I am fully prepared to go to war over the Hamiltonian ideal of (rolls d6) Bimetalism.

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karmicknight
Aug 21, 2011

Aliquid posted:

At least fiat money floats.

Fiat Money makes a great child building material as well.

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