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I'm pretty sure that Wastes would need a subtype, so I'm going with "fake."
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# ¿ Nov 18, 2015 01:30 |
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# ¿ Apr 28, 2024 14:33 |
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Angry Grimace posted:Doesn't actually seem like it. Wouldn't that mean that without a basic land type, it won't have an intrinsic ability to tap for mana?
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# ¿ Nov 18, 2015 01:49 |
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So the diamond is now colorless and the numbers in circles are "generic?"
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# ¿ Nov 18, 2015 02:18 |
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Does that mean that any land that produces colorless would be errata'd to use this diamond?
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# ¿ Nov 18, 2015 02:19 |
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Ramos posted:I'm surprised no one is making a big deal about waste lands being printed in standard again. Fuuuuuck, I even thought about that when I first saw the card.
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# ¿ Nov 18, 2015 02:43 |
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I'm rereading Kozilek and I'm wondering if that first line of text actually works within the rules of the game. Shouldn't it be worded "draw until you have seven" or something?
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# ¿ Nov 18, 2015 03:16 |
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Orange Fluffy Sheep posted:Why does Mirrorpool "T:♦" specifically if ♦ is just "pay me with colorless!" ♦ may be a new symbol that means "colorless." So, older lands might get errata'd to have "T: ♦"
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# ¿ Nov 18, 2015 03:47 |
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Orange Fluffy Sheep posted:This isn't the kind of sweeping change they make in a small set to support at most two-dozen cards. I agree with you, I'm just trying to make sense of this nonsense.
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# ¿ Nov 18, 2015 03:56 |
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Duskfiend posted:IIRC Oath of the Gatewatch prerelease is going to be Two-Headed Giant. My theory is that Diamond costs must be paid with waste mana from your Eldrazi buddy's mana pool. Your hypothesis is that they're printing an Eldrazi Mythic that will actually be literally unplayable in 99% of formats after the prerelease?
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# ¿ Nov 18, 2015 08:21 |
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Zoness posted:Diamond mana is basically snow mana right? It's mana with a secondary attribute aside from color that depends on the source of said mana. Doubtful. Snow mana was specifically any mana (of any color) that was produced by a permanent with the supertype "snow." Mirrorpool has no properties other than "land" and Wastes has no properties other than "basic land," so there's nothing to grant the diamond any additional properties.
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# ¿ Nov 18, 2015 18:06 |
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Irony Be My Shield posted:You still haven't explained what the reminder text should be. "Use ♦ to cast ♦" doesn't seem necessary at all. If there's a rules update to change 1 to ♦ they aren't just going to randomly add reminder text to everything. Uh, "spend only colorless mana on ♦" like Consume Spirit?
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# ¿ Nov 18, 2015 18:07 |
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Zoness posted:as opposed to OFS mentioned this. It's the ONLY snow card that doesn't have reminder text.
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# ¿ Nov 18, 2015 18:14 |
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To be fair, before I actually learned the rules to Magic, I thought you needed literal mana. Like, a physical representation of what your lands added to your pool.
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# ¿ Nov 18, 2015 22:10 |
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No Shrapnel Blast?
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# ¿ Nov 19, 2015 08:25 |
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Recess Rapist posted:Before the full spoilers I called my LGS to preorder the full set of five, but they weren't sure how much stock they were getting, so I had to wait. Yes and no. I quit Magic (again) about 18 months ago and while I'm clearly off the wagon, I'm at the point where I only acquire cards for my Peasant Cube, which are super super cheap. It feels pretty good.
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# ¿ Nov 20, 2015 20:36 |
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Barry Shitpeas posted:In Coldsnap maybe, Ice Age only had snow-covered lands Patently false.
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# ¿ Nov 23, 2015 18:06 |
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Entropic posted:The only thing Ice Age actually did with Snow was cards that cared whether you controlled snow lands or how many of them you had. Snow mana wasn't a thing. Snow creatures weren't a thing. (lol that Goblin Snowman isn't a Snow Creature) "Snow" wasn't even a supertype originally. Hell, "Legend" wasn't even a supertype back then. I don't think there even were supertypes then. Right, snow mana wasn't a thing yet, but card keyed off of snow lands being slightly different from basics, which is what OFS was saying.
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# ¿ Nov 23, 2015 18:23 |
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I think you missed the joke, OFS.
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# ¿ Nov 24, 2015 20:33 |
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# ¿ Nov 25, 2015 01:59 |
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# ¿ Nov 25, 2015 17:02 |
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Jenny Angel posted:Gains vs. gets. Weird, I read that a dozen times and still missed that. I was mostly impressed that they used "until end of turn" instead of "this turn."
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# ¿ Nov 25, 2015 17:14 |
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JerryLee posted:After watching my umpteenth pro cube draft video, I've come to realize that the cube gimmick I really want is a cube without blue in it. Submitted for your approval: http://www.cubetutor.com/viewcube/1863
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# ¿ Nov 26, 2015 18:15 |
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Angry Grimace posted:Are there even Merfolk on Innistrad? No creatures with the type "Merfolk" were printed in the Innistrad block, no.
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# ¿ Dec 2, 2015 01:34 |
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More cool (un)commons with offcolor flashback plz. Alternately, print actual multicolor cards with flashback.
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# ¿ Dec 2, 2015 20:13 |
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Lottery of Babylon posted:It has two keywords, one of which is evergreen.
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# ¿ Dec 2, 2015 22:40 |
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Lottery of Babylon posted:So did Innistrad's werewolves, and every Bestow creature. Not at common.
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# ¿ Dec 2, 2015 22:47 |
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The common Werewolves from Innistrad had three lines of text for the transform ability and another line for the couple that had evergreen abilities. I'm willing to believe there were common Werewolves with seven lines of text, but I'm not seeing any.
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# ¿ Dec 2, 2015 22:55 |
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Lottery of Babylon posted:3 + 4 = 7 You're only ever looking at one side at a time and the two sides are, fundamentally, the same ability. That's pretty different from seven lines of reminder text for a keyword. I'll grant you that Bestow is pretty wordy.
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# ¿ Dec 2, 2015 23:01 |
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# ¿ Dec 2, 2015 23:53 |
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MiddleEastBeast posted:I don't get it. Your loss.
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# ¿ Dec 3, 2015 22:46 |
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....huh. That's...a thing. Were there only going to be 15 Expeditions in Oath? The enemy colored battlelands and 10 filterlands?
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# ¿ Dec 7, 2015 01:59 |
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ShadeofBlue posted:There's 20 expeditions in OTG, which is a strong indicator that there won't be any enemy colored Battle Lands, although there are a couple of 5 land cycles that potentially make sense to use as Expeditions (Scars lands and Future Sight lands). Future Sight lands make zero sense since then we'd have two versions of Graven Cairns. Lack of enemy colored battlelands makes the most sense, I guess.
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# ¿ Dec 7, 2015 02:49 |
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Attorney at Funk posted:Have they ever made this kind of errata mid-block before? It's not exactly the same, but they started coloring the expansion symbols in Exodus.
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# ¿ Dec 7, 2015 06:33 |
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Yeah, the release of Sixth Edition right in the middle of Urza's block shook things up a ton.
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# ¿ Dec 7, 2015 06:47 |
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quote:NAGLE! quote:Split Second
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# ¿ Dec 8, 2015 17:16 |
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Lieutenant Centaur posted:So, do Wastes only tap for DIAMOND mana? They doesn't tap for what we call "colorless" (2)BB right? For that you still need BB and 2 of any land except Wastes? No, the diamond means colorless. The (2) is generic which means "any type of mana." Edit: Wow, you guys are fast.
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# ¿ Dec 8, 2015 22:17 |
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Lieutenant Centaur posted:No, I can't give you an example. Maybe I'm stupid and don't understand it like some others. Think about it this way. If you want to cast, say, Ob Nixilis, you need 3BB. That's two black and three of anything. New Kozilek is 8♦♦. That means you need two colorless mana (from Wastes or a painland or something) and 8 of anything. The point is taking colorless from a thing for artifacts and actually making it matter is a way that impacts the game as a whole.
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# ¿ Dec 8, 2015 22:39 |
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Lieutenant Centaur posted:It's starting to become clear now. So you can use 10 Wastes if you desire to cast New Kozy. Right, or two Wastes, four islands and four plains.
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# ¿ Dec 8, 2015 22:41 |
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^^^^^: It's not a color!Lieutenant Centaur posted:It's still really stupid and hopefully it's a set only thing. (It won't be) They would not print a new basic land and errata a bunch of cards just for a few cards in a small set. If ♦ is legit, it's going to be a part of the game. Serious question: why do you think it's stupid?
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# ¿ Dec 8, 2015 22:51 |
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# ¿ Apr 28, 2024 14:33 |
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stinkles1112 posted:If new Kozilek just said in the text box "At least two mana used to cast Kozilek must be colorless" would that be a dumb mechanic? I don't think so, and it certainly doesn't fit the definition of 'parasitic' It's new and therefore wrong and bad.
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# ¿ Dec 8, 2015 23:18 |