Elyv posted:

Angry Grimace posted:

Totally serious though. I'm gonna be mcmagicing for this card until it rotates out.

mandatory lesbian posted:

Yeah Inflitrator is just weird, but hey 2 mana for 2 power, that's cool

Devoid Dissipate is meh but Dissipate was played back in Innistrad so who knows it may be played again, tho I think Scatter has better value usually

Zoness posted:

Errata'd to instant

little munchkin posted:

Eating a removal spell and being left with a 1/1 token is not "getting value"

mandatory lesbian posted:

okay so i got the old MTGO account booted up, is there like a bulk sellbot i can sell these cards too to see if i have enough to get into the mirrodin draft?

superstepa posted:

So I gave in and bought an MTGO account and it's not that bad? The business model is very archaic but the interface isn't anywhere near as bad as everyone says it is (although I expected it to be a Duels of the Planeswalker levels of atrocious so I might have set my expectations too low). I've playing in open pauper rooms all day and it works really well, I might even drop some more money on it to play in the pauper tournament

Terrible Horse posted:

I was wrong about the art in this set, lots of Eldrazi cards are really cool looking, particularly Ruin in Their Wake

mandatory lesbian posted:

Also the Black 5 mana dude who has pay 1 life to get colorless mana seems really good, especially if you can get him out early and just vomit big dudes while you're opponent is still playing dorky guys

mandatory lesbian posted:

well untapping is blue but yeah it's more a white card to me, its one of those bends they do to support the themes of the set

Rinkles posted:

I was looking at some old videos the other day, and it was crazy seeing lightning bolt and path side-by-side in standard.

Angry Grimace posted:

The whole argument "well you gotta do anything to win" is one of those eye-rolling arguments where it doesn't actually extend to everything despite everyone acting like it does, e.g. monitoring what cards opposing teams are ordering (which isn't actually illegal) and doesn't actually apply to lots of things despite people saying it does. The George Brett incident is notable because its an outlier, the same way you don't see people arguing that guys don't run up the first base line in the runners box even though technically you are out if you run outside of it and there's a loving lot more money on the line. Golfers literally call penalties on themselves.

I mean, if you really want to win by grinding out those type of advantages then at least have the decency to not also claim the moral high ground and just admit you don't give a gently caress as long as you win.

black potus posted:

cite plz

e: also the other one bc i can't find any of this poo poo

Voyager I posted:

I think the general permissiveness with naming contributes to the problem. Usually even the vaguest description is good enough, so if you don't know that some obscure card actually has another, even more obscure card from ten years ago with an overlapping name, there's no reason to expect so much precision to suddenly be necessary to not get rules lawyered.

Again, I understand that the Judges did their jobs and interpreted the rules correctly, but what the situation actually reflects is an undesirable snag in the current rules and not something we should pretend is somehow a good outcome. In general, I'd say that in situations where ambiguity exists, the desirable outcome would be to clarify that ambiguity before proceeding to adjudication.

Hellsau posted:

Mark Rosewater makes offhand comment about grape scent, queue endless debate on MTGSalvation about whether that means the next planeswalker will be a new sixth seventh color or just Izzet.

Entropic posted:

Oh god I actually just looked up Force of Will and it's worse than I remembered.

For all that we bitch and moan about bland CG art in new sets, no other game looks as good as Magic.

Chill la Chill posted:

Yeah doing 5000 damage makes you feel like a more powerful wizard than doing 5. Pokemon also has the cool contoured foils that we're never gonna get in magic unless you wanna see Kibler rubbing his cards every time he shuffles.

Angry Grimace posted:

Nissa's Renewal actually sees play a bit in ramp but I don't really know why. It doesn't actually do anything to stabilize beyond gaining an amount of life that probably doesn't matter on the turn you can cast it.

My opponents reaction to Nissa's Revelation revealing Ulamog is way more worth it, plus you can live he agony of whiffing.

Ultima66 posted:

Reminder: WotC literally fired the previous community manager Mike Robles for making a tweet telling someone that it was okay for him to proxy an expensive card for his EDH deck if his playgroup was okay with it.

BJPaskoff posted:

I can assure you that smugly bringing up Collector's Edition cards doesn't contribute anything to the argument. Bringing up that there's a two year old article on the official Magic site suggesting you ask your LGS to run proxy tournaments, however, is a big deal.

A user on Reddit had this to say:

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Your problem lies in that you are asking too many questions. I'm being serious. Hear me out.

Essentially, they're saying that - though their official policy is strict on proxies and counterfeits - they REALLY don't care about them actually being used given that they're not Chinese Counterfeits. Like they really don't care, at all.

The original post was made to ONE gaming store that was a private communication. By blowing it up, they now have to reiterate their official policy and refuse you the plausible deniability that we are so often given. Now, instead of ignoring it/giving a "warning" when some douchebag who gets DQ'd reports a store for allowing proxies, they have to follow-through on their promise because we made this private email (which acts as a first warning to that specific LGS), very public (now a first warning to every LGS).

Essentially, when you ask about a policy, they are going to quote you the official policy (the one that protects them legally). NOT the plausible deniability that they give us between the lines.

By blowing this up, we're FORCING them to enforce certain policies that they don't really care to enforce because not doing so would hurt their ability to enforce it when it really matters (in the courts vs. Chinese counterfeiters for example).

tl;dr: In public, when you ask them, they have to quote official policy, but they're winking at you when doing so. If you don't get it, What Trick is saying is the official policy. What Helene is saying is the "Wink" (she's winking really hard). STOP ASKING FOR FURTHER CLARIFICATION.

Some of that makes sense. Anyone from Wizards with the ability to comment on this at all is a robot who has to repeat the company line and nothing but that. I don't think there's a "wink" involved here at all though. Since no one's been suspended over this, had their WPN privileges taken away, or been explicitly threatened with either of those penalties, it's hard to say whether this Reddit person is right or if this "first warning" marks the start of Wizards actually enforcing their policy.

cheetah7071 posted:

Hyperbole aside, I wouldn't be surprised if magiccards.info gets a takedown notice within the next six months, the way wizards has been behaving. Why should anyone look at images of magic cards anywhere but gatherer?

Mikujin posted:

No they didn't. The right thing is to fully investigate a matter before slamming down the hammer. They did the absolute wrong thing. Trying to undo the incredibly wrong thing you did doesn't somehow make it go away (although I bet they wish it would).

Mikujin posted:

An apology would go a long way. By reducing the suspensions to basically just time already served, WotC is standing firm that they were 100% justified in their knee-jerk reactionary bans. The only reason they're even making a public showing of this is to try and earn back some favor from people who don't see that there's nothing apologetic about the should-be-an-apology announcement.

mandatory lesbian posted:

you should link it, cause i can't seem to find it

mandatory lesbian posted:

like it gave me her twitter and an article from 2014 with her talking to frank lepore or something, this article doesn't show up at all dude

Ciprian Maricon posted:

The first result for me there is a facebook post and then a twitter post.

it's almost like google results are personalized and they might be slightly different based on whatever file Google has on you at their skynet headquarters and you don't need to be a pedantic prick when someones results aren't exactly the same as yours.

Hellsau posted:

I was about to defend High Market, since gaining life equal to the toughness of a sacrificed creature at no additional mana cost is actually pretty good, but then I remembered that was Diamond Valley and that High Market gains 1 life and is worthless.


Jace, the Mind Sculptor, Treachery, and the Splinter Twin combo exist alongside Carrier Thrall and a ton of lovely white aggro stuff. Why is Archangel of Thune in the cube if there's no actual combos with it? Do I really want to be playing a 5 mana 3/4 that needs to attack a few times to actually pay me off, while my opponent is reanimating Grave Titan or assembling Pestermite/Splinter Twin, or just burning me the gently caress out before turn 5 even comes? Archangel just seems worse than any of the white four drops. Why not just put in all the Soul Sisters garbage if you're going to put in a terrible white archetype? At least Soul Sisters is fun.

The cube is excessively imbalanced - there are good archetypes, and there are horrible ones. I don't think the table can all be on good archetypes, so you need to hope at least one of the people in your pod wants to play White Weenie, hope at least two people force mono-red to cannibalize eachother (unless it's deep enough for two) and then figure out which of Blue Control/Twin/Reanimator/Green Ramp are open for your seat.