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November 2019: The game is going to be receiving support again, so I'm going to overhaul the OP. For now, I'm just cleaning some of the outdated chaff. So, Payday 2  Payday 2 Goons Steam group Payday 2 Skill calculator As a warning, the vast majority of the playerbase plays the PC version of the game. The 360/PS3 versions were never really updated past their release state, and I can only assume the Bone/PS4 versions don't have much of a playerbase. Payday 2 is about murdering law enforcement officers in one of the best co-op shooters on the market. Also about unhealthy amounts of gun love. Think about it as Left 4 Dead, Killing Floor, and Michael Mann's Heat put together, with some RPG elements.  the allegory of the pubstove illustrated by allen wren https://twitter.com/fmanjoo/status/781334861374066688/photo/1 He even made an awesome smilie to go with it!  AND HOLY poo poo IT'S IN THE GAME  Yes, pubbies in this game are terrible you should play with goons. Join us on the PD2 Discord. If you have to play with pubs, then host. Otherwise the little Shitlers will kick you before the heist ends or screech at you to stealth a loud-only mission. There was even one guy who's now infamous for actually getting his rocks off on insulting pubbies so that gives you an idea of the community the next time you say you're nervous about asking a Goon (who will show you how the game works and help you out) to play. Hanging out in the steam group chat and joining the Discord server is the best way to organize a goon group. Some people are pretty jaded on playing this game after two years but whenever DLC gets released or sales happen, there will be an influx of new players that you can catch a ride with. You can ask anyone to play and they'll usually up for a game and especially for showing a newbie around What’s new with Payday 2 since I stopped playing a long-rear end time ago? As of late 2019, Overkill plans to return to updating the Payday 2. Even then, after the microtransaction bungle, Overkill pledged to focus on fixing parts of the games and after enough out-roar, refocused their efforts and began overhauling the gameplay and content. If you've been out of the game since say release day, the biggest gameplay changes have been the skill revamps, weapon rebalances, and perk decks. To sum each one up: -The skill trees now look completely different and have tons of new skills that reward new types of playstyles. Lots of useless skills were axed and each tree has some really unique and useful stuff. Skills also don't cost money, and you can make multiple profiles. -The weapon rebalance buffed and nerfed weapons around breakpoints. This means that almost no weapon is bad stats-wise, so when you open up that game for the first time and see a trillion new guns, you don't need to panic because odds are you'll pick a useful one. -The perk decks were a twofold design of getting rid of the old tier bonuses and as a way of boosting skill sets to do more interesting things. Make sure you take a look in the perk deck section of the inventory ASAP as they're leveled up by you putting points into them manually. Several have been updated vis-a-vis usefulness, and there's a quick guide on them in the second OP. Other Major Updates -Safe House Customization. After being halfheartedly promised on release, Overkill finally implemented a customizable new safe house like 3 years later. -New Difficulties: Mayhem and One Down. Mayhem fits right between Overkill and Death Wish where you'll face Gen Sec elites and Skulldozers, and the enemies are a bit more hearty. One Down is a nightmare mode that lets you only go down once before going into custody, and enemies are ridiculously accurate, hearty, and powerful. Besides that there's been a mess of content (weapons, masks, characters, etc.), both free and paid. We used to have DLC Buying Guides galore, but Overkill has made it easier and more affordable to just get as many of them as possible. There's also now a proper tutorial in the game now for both loud and stealth for a refresher or new players.  Multiple free guns, mods, and masks are yours if you join the Official Payday 2 Steam group Otherwise, there aren't any objectively bad DLC packs at this point. If you want a weapon, mask, or character, just grab it on sale or something. Worth reiterating that you do not need to own DLC to use paid DLC heists. Owning heist DLC just makes you able to host that heist. You can join on anyone who owns it if you yourself don't own it.  From Captain Swing This music is really good! Where can I get it? It's by a guy named Simon Viklund, who did a really nice job (with 1 track by somewhat-famous techno artist Alesso and a few by Le Castle Vania). If you buy the soundtracks on steam they will be in your Payday 2 folder somewhere. Also: http://overkillsoundtracks.bandcamp.com/  From Captain Swing Fellis might be dead, or was my Durden-like parachute account. I don't know. Plan Z fucked around with this message at 01:38 on Nov 26, 2019 |
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 Game Mechanics and FAQ   M.O.? Is that they're good... Once it escalated into a murder one beef for all of 'em after they killed the first two guards, they didn't hesitate. Teabag guard number three because... what difference does it make? From Captain Swing So I Read All That Crap, and I Launched the Game. Now What? First of all, after a few heists look at the "Perk Deck" tab in the inventory menu. Perk Decks are pre-made decks of general and specific perks built around things like melee, armor, health, dodge chance, etc. Most people will recommend that you equip the Armorer, Muscle, or Crew Chief deck and stick with that until you have it maxed out. By the time you have finished one of those decks, you will probably know enough about the game mechanics to figure out what deck you want to pick next, but any of those are a solid first pick. Make sure you stick with the maxed-out one while just putting points into others because there are things like XP and damage bonuses in the perk decks now. Here's a quick, unfinished guide to Perk Decks that I made. I'm no expert, so if you can fill in any gaps, please let me know! There are only a few skills that I recommend all beginners pick, and those are Transporter (throw and carry bags faster), Duck and Cover (Sprint for longer), and Parkour (move faster). These are the most basic QoL of skills. The new trees are intuitive and useful enough that you're hard-pressed to find many useless skills as long as you use your brain a bit. As long as you focus at least a little on survivability, it's hard to screw up your choices. Just post your builds in the thread and try things out. Enforcer shotgun/armor builds are generally regarded to be the best builds for newbies. Weapon information If you didn't join the Steam Payday 2 group like I mentioned above, go and join the Payday 2 Steam group. You get free stuff that'll help you out. Once you do that, you can use a lot of different weapons now for different purposes since the rebalance is done. For Overkill and below, you really can't pick a bad weapon. The weapon mods system sucks if you're playing 100% vanilla. The Gage Courier and AK/CAR Pack DLCs fixed a chunk of this, but only for things like sights, lasers, and specific weapons. The random drop system is unarguably dumb game-o-fication stuff. There are daily/weekly challenges that you can find in safe house> challenges that will let you pick a general mod for completing the challenge. You can now use Continental Coins to buy parts you want, but they're pretty expensive and use the same coins that you use to pay for safe house upgrades. There's also Goon Mod (look below) that adds a "Gage Coin" system that lets you buy weapons for cheaper than Continental Coin prices, and has Overkill's approval. Failing that, a lot of people cheated in mods and pretty much nobody will look down on you for doing it, but don't discuss it in the thread, don't play with Goons while cheats are on, and don't ask me how to get the cheats. We've had those conversations before and it gets ugly. Are there any cool mods/tweaks for the game? Many cool mods can be found here on Last Bullet or http://paydaymods.com/. The latter provides you with the mod injector called BLT that's very easy to use and one of the slickest in-game mod UIs I've ever seen. Be aware that mods frequently break after large patches, but are usually fixed within a day or two with auto-updates. For those who remember Goon Mod, gif from Sykic 
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Korean Boomhauer posted:the problem with the skin thing is the game is going to stop receiving patches in 2 years (i think). at least with tf2 and dota 2 you know they wont release a team fortress 3 or dota 3 any time soon and i'm sure if they did they'd have some kind of item transfer system. I mean I see it as investment for them. I don't expect this to be a long-term plan for now. The problem I have with it is trying to take these ugly skins and incorporate them into the hype system. The whole hype train has been a bit of a wet fart for these kinds of releases, and that's been for things like genuine game content addition. Now, they've still got the web pages with the gigantic fonts and new looping Viklund track, but now it's for the prospect of paying Overkill to get a random drop of a very ugly weapon skin that may be an heinous turd for the same price of a much better one. They just come off as way too proud of this system that at best people tolerate, and while I agree that the most vocal fools will eventually forget it and move on, they're mostly just taking the wind out of their own sails by trying to build up so much energy for these things. I finally gave my view on all of this and I hope I never have to again.
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This is basically the type of stuff that they needed to do to start to win people back. I hope they stick to it.
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GotLag posted:The Space Engineers scene is okay. The CS Skinning community was pretty cool and chill. It was probably cool because most guys could either do models, UVs, textures, or animations without much overlap, so lots of collaborating happened. It was groovy up until CSBanana (Gamebanana now) came along. Overnight, people were stealing credit for a lot of skins, models, and animations, and posting them on CSBanana, whose owners didn't care. When the thieves were pressed by their "fans" to do more, they would just steal more from lesser-known people on smaller forums to the point where nobody really wanted to release anything to be stolen on CSBanana. What was left of the pre-banana community stayed at cdg.net and eventually died for the most part. I heard Gamebanana's been better about content theft, but gently caress if I can look at their ugly, cluttered site without hating them.
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HOOLY BOOLY posted:I've not played Payday 1 but isn't the first part of Hox Breakout pretty much the same thing? Get your cop clicks there. Heat Street had a hefty challenge in that cops could really build up a thick defense. Hox Breakout's cops barely get a chance to set up before getting mowed down, which is kind of my problem with PD2 these days. Part of why I like the Lab Rats cloaker holdout is that It's a great big old clusterfuck where you're not just mowing down cops who can't shoot back. It's also why I'd like to do Green Bridge again. That mission required a lot of coordination and would be pretty great in PD2.
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Geight posted:most people don't.
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Grinder also has a bug or exploit or what you want to call it with fire. It seems that for every cop you have on fire, health regen will stack. That's why I love taking grinder and a flaming Piglet on Death Wish.Magnetic North posted:Can you explain why Muscle is better than Armorer? Armorer is still alright if you can use it well, even better if you throw in Aced Bulletproof to help your team out a little more. Muscle is great for self-preservation, though. You won't be going down on DW as easily, and that 4% regen doesn't mean you're going to be stuck with that 10% health after a revive for very long (arguably the biggest problem on DW runs back in the day). I mix it with Hostage Taker for DW runs and almost never go down, but YMMV. Plan Z fucked around with this message at 22:19 on Nov 24, 2015 |
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Wallflowers: Complete Nightclub with a full group while never having more than one person inside the club at any given time on Overkill or above. Shoulder of Pork: On Deathwish, secure the pig on Slaughterhouse without throwing it once. Plan Z fucked around with this message at 10:55 on Nov 26, 2015 |
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Dark_Swordmaster posted:What's the 40 damage break point? Don't DW with a weapon under 40? 40 doesn't mean as much as it used to. Before perk decks, it was the breakpoint to one-headshot greens, and two-head tans. Now everyone with a perk deck gets the headshot bonus multiplier so some miniscule number is the new one for greens, and some 38 or 39 point-whatever number is the one for tans. Realistically, getting your damage up really only matters for some shotguns rare situations with sniper rifles, or if you're doing Deathwish these days. Lots of people like to chat numbers and that's cool, but if someone tells you a gun is useless or you shouldn't firing it while moving or from the hip(barring semi-auto shotties), then they're bad at shooters and try to make up for it number-shaming. Plan Z fucked around with this message at 19:45 on Nov 28, 2015 |
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Geight posted:All perk decks did was let everyone take advantage of the 40 breakpoint, instead of requiring that you dump points into Technician to get the tier bonus. It's exactly what I meant.
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The reason I say try things out is because the other thread turned dick-waving with essays about stats that's a little much for newcomers. I'd rather encourage people to try things out and don't worry the game can be fun no matter what numbers are as long as you are a team player. It gets even worse when you tell someone you're enjoying your experience with the game, and someone is telling you you're enjoying it in the wrong because you're not exploiting every inch of it. It's part of why I trimmed a lot of the guides and stuff from the OP, because I hate opening up an OP and the first thing I see is sperg-posting about numbers and which mods to get before you even try to start up the game. Fire up the game, shoot some cops, notice what you like, and talk about it. If you're not sure about something in the game, ask around and I'll throw up some advice in the OP.Psion posted:speak not the dread name SLUGGATOR in this thread Took a group of scrubs on a Sluggator run and they were insisting on being able to use fully modded-out great secondaries when they pleased. Shameful.
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maswastaken posted:Stealth solo. Group stealth is just so intense becausey ou never know when someone's going to screw up and you hope it isn't you. It was a sweet day when I finally got Vox to realize that lag effects stealth detection pretty hard.
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The feature from MGS5 I want most in every game, the bugged weapon customization, may be coming to PD2. http://imgur.com/a/KOVUk
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jivjov posted:So why are we still getting paid DLC packs? Wasn't the whole point of the microtransaction market to basically pay for the development of that content? Nobody ever said that, so no?
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henkman posted:Shut the gently caress up
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Explosionface posted:There's also the strategy of just buy everything because more guns is more funs. Yeah, at this point, the only DLC that doesn't have anything especially wonderful is the Historical pack. I love it because I am a 'tard for that era of firearms, but the Sterling, MG42, and C96 got left behind. The Mosin's still fun on a bun, but
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Crabtree posted:Are we finally going to get a goddamn Reagan mask now? Its on the loving perk icon. We have a literal Bodhi film tie in. Give me that loving plastic Ronny Raygun mask. With our luck, it'll be Dukakis in a tank helmet. Wait, now I'm conflicted.
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Afraid of Audio posted:give me a carter mask, lbj mask, fdr mask, jfk mask, teddy mask, and an abe lincoln hat Buy more skins and maybe one day.
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Afraid of Audio posted:mr almir you PROMISED me STUPID poo poo to spend money on Overkill promised to release stupid poo poo, but they haven't. Let's contact Steam technical support.
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Anyone have the iron sights broken? I have to sets, one normal, one "infamy." I don't have the normal set, and if I put the infamous ones on and exit the customizer, I'm not allowed to equip the Platypus. I can't even buy the normal sights with Gage Coins.
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Diamond Heist still the king of genocide. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tMyA_M3vqFU Also, check the ammo pickup.
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Metal brought up the fact that 000 buck could be better now that pickup rates have been increased, so we gave it a shot. Both the saiga and steakout both seem to be redeemed by throwing buck in them, now. You can't use the steakout as a machine shotgun, but minding your shots with both makes them much better now.
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Mesadoram posted:I used the Predator 12g with 000. 000 is great these days. Load it up. Also, when is someone going to release an updated barrel extension hider mod? I need my beautiful, yet stat-efficient guns. Plan Z fucked around with this message at 20:46 on Dec 7, 2015 |
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As is, I don't really go down on maps much anymore, and my regular group is a bunch of kill-happy mongos to the point where any time one of us has had Swan Song activated, it mostly just results in someone just kind of looking for enemies and being shouted back up again. I wouldn't call Swan Song a bad skill, it's certainly a useful one if you're pubbing, but I'd hesitate to call it a necessity if you're going up the Fugie tree unless it suits your playstyle.
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Shima Honnou posted:From noted good posted corn in the bible who was viciously blacklisted by the author for his negative review of this game. 
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The Mike Sparks heist: "Gang, we got a hot tip from an exceptionally intelligent military analyst blogger about an amazing new piece of military tech that just got delivered to Murkywater. All I know is that it's boxy, leightweight, slow, and poorly-armored. The perfect military equipment. Due to its incredible lightweight, it can be easily airdropped or placed into a dufflebag and carried." The Mike Sparks heist includes the following features: -Steal M113 Gavins to keep Murkywater from becoming the most powerful PMC. -Carry the Gavins to a bigger "Escape Gavin." -Safe House is now a Gavin. -James M. Gavin added as a new heister. -Includes "updated" (no specifics given) version of an old US military gun that is somehow better than anything today. -Fursuit masks. -Free, real-life Gavin added to Payday 2 Merchandise page.
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Discendo Vox posted:I had to google to get that joke, Z, and now I hate myself, you, Sparks, Gavin, and everyone. "Gavin" is to milspergs as "Death Vox" is to this thread.
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BillmasterCozb posted:Can somebody give me any reason why the gun skins are perceived as a bad thing, other than "THEY LIEEEEEED" People seem to finally be settling down. Even Redditors started calling their complainers total loving babies, and when I uploaded a Payday video, one of the suggested tags after "Payday 2" was "salt." Political movements have realized this, but you really can't maintain that type of  without making everyone but your most die hard supporters sick of you.
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Nehru the Damaja posted:I got a concealment boost in my card drops. Except I don't know what the gently caress I can use it on. I can't apply it to anything I have, it seems, and I can't just go look at the boost itself to see if it lists the weapons it's good on. What the hell? The FAMAS, the PPK, the Bernetti, P90, and the Bronco all have a unique concealment mods if that helps narrow it down.
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Psion posted:I always thought ex-presidents was budget grinder but last night when someone told me (and then I confirmed) that every single time your armor breaks your entire health regen battery is drained - even if you didn't take health damage. Now it's not just budget grinder, it's poo poo. I thought the "complete drain for any amount of health regen" was somewhat obnoxious but at least it made some degree of sense. The battery draining even on armor break and 0hp damage is just stupid. Actually ex-presidents is pretty rocking hth. If you have aced bullseye and a suit, you can instantly restore your armor by shooting a cop. I've been doing solo DW with it.
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BillmasterCozb posted:Or you could That, too. I just like to get creative with my murder. I know Ex-Prez isn't especially wonderful, but it's at least a different way to play the game. I don't know how people could stomach only CAR-4 and Loco for two years.
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Psion posted:was it? I could be remembering wrong. I threw the Repeater into my never to use again pile when the Lebensauger hit and threw it out when the rebalance hit. Just like Stalingrad.
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Wastrel_ posted:Talk of goon playthroughs made me remember very vaguely that there was a PD: TH LP at some point. Found it in the LP archive and watched a few of the videos. Ah, when Overdrill didn't mean moving 84 loot bags on the highest difficulty... Bootcha's been putting stuff together, but I'm guessing he's been getting side-tracked by Star Citizen videos. Plus, an LP's gonna be hard since there are a lot of heists, longer heists, and more gameplay stuff being added regularly. dscruffy1 posted:It's a little difficult not to touch the stove if there's no lobbies. Pop into the Hangout lobby and ask. We miss you.
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Geight posted:I like the Alesso heist, but it takes way too drat long. The security hack seems unnecessary.
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What a Goon LP always needs is some mushed-mouth nerd who reads off the Wikipedia page while looking at the start screen and the second post in the thread complains you didn't Sandcastle it first.
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BillmasterCozb posted:I'm sure I sound like an incredibly high-pitched nerd with a southern accent That just means you sound like a Goon with an accent.
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Discendo Vox posted:It takes a lot of getting used to the mechanical differences between payday 1 and 2. It also sounds like you got some of the worst spawns possible- the 4 cloakers event on FWB is really rare. I can only solo a couple heists on Hard, and even then there's some luck involved. If you listen closely, the Cloakers all have German accents talking about Stalingrad.
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