Basticle posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzW0Wq2V4Y0

Wastrel_ posted:

Doing the heists in order might be amusing, only gently caress GO Bank. poo poo heist that's more annoying than fun, stealth or loud.

Drewjitsu posted:

In case you missed in on twich (and I did), one of the stems of Viklund's (hallowed be his name) new tracks:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T7bRaiec1rw

Dr Cheeto posted:

Light shotguns and automatic shotguns are horrid now. Loco and judge are still pretty good, and the reinfeld is pretty good if you can deal with that terrible fire rate. The joceline and predator both have a reduced pellet count (6 and 5, respectively) compared to all other shotguns (12) so keep that in mind.

quote:

Hotfix 91.1 changelog
Update size: 28,1 MB

Fixed a crash on the Birth of Sky heist related to parachuting while using a controller
Fixed an issue on the Beneath the Mountain heist where players had too many preplan favors
Fixed an issue on the Beneath the Mountain heist where the AI could walk through a rock
Fixed an issue on the Beneath the Mountain heist where players could get stuck behind the vault doors
Fixed an issue where some players couldn’t mod the Platypus 70 with a Combine Module and Iron Sight
Fixed an issue where the achievement “1... 2... 3... JUMP!” could be unlocked on the Normal difficulty
Fixed an issue where the achievement “No Blood on the Carpet” could be unlocked on the Normal difficulty

Discendo Vox posted:

Putting the mask on instantly crushes your skull, so...


I hate that a largely complete heist design sprung to mind upon reading this. It could actually use the Golden Grin, now that I think of it.
The Fur and Loathing Heist-
"I've gotten word that the Murkywater CFO is attending some sort of high-end costume party in vegas this halloween. This is an exclusive party- tight security, weird costumes, lots of criminal behavior. We're going to sneak in as guests, kidnap the CFO, and drain some specific Murkywater accounts. That should bankrupt their cyberwarfare division and get us out form under Locke's thumb."

• "Ok, we're in. You can go ahead and mask up, but don't draw your weapons- as long as you don't get too close, security will think you're just normal partygoers."
  
• Now, aside from a general info, we don't know a lot about the target. This guy or girl is supposedly wearing some kind of animal costume, but that...doesn't narrow it down as much as I'd hoped. They'll have an entourage- look for bodyguards, track their movement. You may also be able to find clues somewhere about what kind of costume they're wearing.
  
• "Ok, that's him[/her]. Man, what a weirdo. Now that we've identified them, we need to separate him[/her] from their escort in order to get their account codes. Let's see what info we can dig up. see if you can figure out a way to get them alone. Maybe there's info on what them on the hotel server."
  
• "Ah...jeez. OK, this is gonna get...unpleasant. This guy[/lady] has some...specific tastes. Of the cartoon animal persuasion. OK, I have a plan, but you're not going to like it. Keep your distance for now. I'm sending you something via a dumbwaiter- I've marked it for you. First step is to dose their drink."
  
• "Great. So, um...that thing you put in their glass- it's not an emetic, it's spanish fly. I'm sorry, but there's no other way! First, look around for clues about what kind of costume you should wear, then one of you needs to go to the storage closet and...gear up. Careful- those things are heavy and visibility is limited. You don't want a guard to notice you're packing underneath all that...stuff. I've left a bottle of sanitizer with the gear- you're going to want to pick it up first."
  
• [BTW, very small chance the CFO's fetish is getting robbed by the payday gang, in which case you can either go get a giant foam heister mask, or you can just use your normal heisting gear.]
  
• "Are you ready? Try to ignore where that thing's been. Get the CFO alone, tie them down and get the codes. You can take a long, cleansing shower when you get back to the safehouse."
  
• "Next, we'll need to get some ropes to- oh. They. Um. They already had that in their hotel room. Um, great."
  
• Now shout at them to get the codes. Don't worry about being loud, based on what we've seen so far I'm guessing they'll think it's...recreational shouting."
  
• [a bunch of randomized events and hazards while you get the codes and the hack runs- room service, a manager received complaints, phone call for the target, etc]
  
• "OK, time to get out of there. Head back to the supply room to get out of that thing. I'm still not sure that creep ever realized we were actually robbing them!"
  

Loud would be a bit like undercover, but with gun-wielding enemy Kawaii dozers and a lot of extra-weird costumes on civilians and police.

Jokes aside, I'd really like payday 2 to avoid any kind of sexual topic, even portrayed humorously. I just don't trust the community with it.

Lyrai posted:

The concealment rating.

EDIT:


Minigun, RL, ICTV, and still rating of 3.

isndl posted:

Nice freak-out.

That could make for a pretty sweet mutator, actually. Tying up a civilian would instead set everyone in the vicinity on fire, cops included.

Drewjitsu posted:

It's one of the things that makes game so goddamn great. Simon Viklund is a living saint.

widespread posted:

Guys, the holiday special. Go get it.

Sykic posted:

Only if it's Vox doing the voice over, set to footage of him staring at pillars and taking screenshots.

Discendo Vox posted:

How would folks feel about the following death vox change- you have the same amount of health when you are picked up, but your timer before going into custody is cut to 15 seconds.

Puistokemisti posted:

The whole talent system needs rework, probably. You basically have three types of talents: quality of life ones like movespeed buffs, Fast Hands, Transporter, underpriced onepoint wonders like Cleaner, Spotter, Underdog and then the very good, build defining ones like Inspire, ICTV, Swan Song.

Everything else is garbage where you just try to figure out which ones are the least worthless ones on your way to the actual good talents. Best you can hope for if you change Tough Guy is that someone will do a tiny fistpump because they can Ace that instead of Stun Resistance on their way to Iron Man.

For all the freedom the talent system supposedly gives, most of the choices you can make are just wrong and make you a bad player and person.

LORD OF BUTT posted:

So I've had this game for quite a while and never once camped the stairs. Is it really that much better of an experience than playing with pubbies? I feel like I've gotten lucky because almost every pubbie group I join goes loud, and the one time I've gotten a stealth group they were actually really chill about me having no clue how to stealth.

e: also, to add to the person listing off good grinding missions, Four Stores Overkill is honestly pretty easy to speedrun for packages once you have an ECM.

Concordat posted:

Truly the most discrete of weapons.

Fellis posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGKDTBhDu18

sykic's vid but should be shared with the world

BillmasterCozb posted:

can anybody give me a coherent, legitimate problem as to why a goat simulator heist is a bad thing for this game??

I mean what, running around wearing a schoolgirl mask and using akimbo crappy guns as john wick isn't going over the line, but goats are?

Crabtree posted:

Be forewarned that Goat Simulator is a game you can very easily burn out on or lose interest in if you're going into it expecting to laugh because of some grandiose joke. It's strength entirely relies on the player's ability to take a game and ruin it and find satisfaction in causing a cascading rag doll nightmare to fall on itself. But with the amount of effort Coffee Stain still puts into its game, Goat Simulator is both one of the only legitimate and self mocking Simulator games that is worth it in my opinion. It walks a very fine line between simple garbage and some smug freshman art project/flipped Unity asset con-job that tries to defend its "intentional" awfulness behind a veil of post modern "You bring your own interpretations to it, maaan" bullshit that both flood into steam like a endless river of crap.

It's just a silly game and you can tell the people that make it really like what they do.

Lynx posted:

IIRC he doesn't do the VO work for Dallas, just the live action stuff.

Psion posted:

I think the best challenge/minimal bullshit difficulty you're going to get is INH's Gensec on Overkill mod where it uses DW spawn tables and adds greys/skulldozers to the list but keeps Overkill values otherwise. It's more intense than regular Overkill difficulty (obviously) but it avoids some of DW's worst choices.

Or just play dw. Learn to love cloakers you can't kill before they charge you and Saiga dozers who kill you in 0.14 seconds. Then learn to defeat them.

Crabtree posted:

Does Hardline still have an active playerbase or has it gone the road of EVOLVE?

John Murdoch posted:

So we're officially up to three Payday-connected spun-off co-op games, not counting that other thing Overkill has on the backburner and a theoretical (but probably inevitable) Payday 3.

oohhboy posted:

AT heists are great to get that High Speed Low Drag feeling. It's a slight shame it requires so much special equipment.

Barry Shitpeas posted:

I quite like stealth but even a quick loud heist like Aftershock will blow any stealth heist out of the water in terms of money & XP

Discendo Vox posted:

Payday 2: Remember when we used to steal money from banks?

The Electronaut posted:

Mendrian posted:

re:RPG balance

The problem is expecting enemy longevity to be tied to threat. The reason Cloakers are dangerous is because they don't need to be on the screen very long to do their thing, and they can drop out of vents, so they don't need to spawn at the edge of the map and slowly lumber toward you. Expecting any enemy to function as a 'boss' is poor design choice. You're not trying to counter-play, you're just trying to play better to get around the enemy. In this way dozers are actually terrible. They're no different than normal cops really except they do more damage and have a smaller glowing weakpoint.

Having more specials on the screen at any given time could help. Having specials who don't need to stick around very long to do their thing would also help. Gas turrets or some hypothetical gas cop just needs one good shot. They counter-play is to move and not sit in the gas.