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Lutha Mahtin posted:i'm not sure why you're criticizing the most well-designed block in that stretch of midway. if you take the couple of blocks to the west, i.e. the one with the Wal-Mart and the one with the "Rainbow", those are a lot worse; the target block makes much more sense in contrast to them. like if you put the target building farther north on that block, it would just create a dead zone next to St. Anthony Ave, much like you see on the other blocks i mentioned. and pedestrian access to that block is actually quite nice: contrary to your claim, pedestrians do not need to ever set foot in the target parking lot (at least on the Hamline side), because they can just walk on the public sidewalk on either the west or east edge of the block, and then go directly to the private sidewalk in front of the target. the stoplights on Hamline in the middle of the block are even fully signed with walk/don't walk and crosswalks for pedestrians. contrast this with those other blocks, which are a mish-mash of crappy little parking-lot fiefdoms that often have poor/no good places for pedestrians to walk to get to the stores on the block i still have no idea what parking lot in the north east is supposed to be for also we all must live within like a mile of each other, i'm one stop away from that target (but i work in mounds view now so lol public transit won't work)
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 i live southeast of there a ways. we could totally do a neighborhood pubcrawl being joeman wingmen (as he tries to score with cougars)i should add that i don't think that block is actually good, just that it's less bad than most other blocks in midway that have big-box stores. the fact that they slapped down parking all the way to the NE corner of the block confuses me too, because whoever the landowner is could totally fit another little strip-mall or something in it, and it's pretty prime land with the green line stop right there i'm curious when the demolition is going to begin for the block just east of snelling. can't wait for that shiny new soccer stadium that will never pay a dime to the city in property taxes, thanks mayor coleman 
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Lutha Mahtin posted:i'm not sure why you're criticizing the most well-designed block in that stretch of midway. if you take the couple of blocks to the west, i.e. the one with the Wal-Mart and the one with the "Rainbow", those are a lot worse; the target block makes much more sense in contrast to them. like if you put the target building farther north on that block, it would just create a dead zone next to St. Anthony Ave, much like you see on the other blocks i mentioned. and pedestrian access to that block is actually quite nice: contrary to your claim, pedestrians do not need to ever set foot in the target parking lot (at least on the Hamline side), because they can just walk on the public sidewalk on either the west or east edge of the block, and then go directly to the private sidewalk in front of the target. the stoplights on Hamline in the middle of the block are even fully signed with walk/don't walk and crosswalks for pedestrians. contrast this with those other blocks, which are a mish-mash of crappy little parking-lot fiefdoms that often have poor/no good places for pedestrians to walk to get to the stores on the block ehhhhh i guess. i don't go to those other blocks very often, but i stop at target a lot esp when i'm taking the green line home so it's fresh in my mind as a "why did they do it like this" sort of thing. that whole area between university and 94 is kind of hard to work with, maybe they should have run 94 a little further north along the railroads. idk. e: quote:i'm curious when the demolition is going to begin for the block just east of snelling. can't wait for that shiny new soccer stadium that will never pay a dime to the city in property taxes, thanks mayor coleman saaaame
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it was probably much easier, politically, to put 94 through that area where they did, versus any other route e: also, i should add that i first experienced our soccer team by tagging along with a goon who was one of the organizers of their fan club. he paid for the tickets for me and my then-girlfriend, and produced so many beers from his backpack that i think it was some kind of magic wizardry. super fun and awesome, but i am now a cranky old man who wants people to pay their drat taxes Lutha Mahtin fucked around with this message at 04:23 on Mar 14, 2017 |
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Endless Mike posted:awwwwwww poor babies have to walk a whole quarter of a mile? awwwww uhh obviously the solution here is Xiaomi MiJia Scooters for all 
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Mar 14, 2017 04:51
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Elder Postsman posted:that whole area between university and 94 is kind of hard to work with, maybe they should have run 94 a little further north along the railroads. but then it would've missed the black people
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Mar 14, 2017 04:56
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buses own ive had awesome bus service in plenty of places that arent terrible like the us
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hobbesmaster posted:but then it would've missed the black people we went to this play at the mn history theater a few weeks ago and one of the quotes in the program was "very few blacks lived in Minnesota, but the road builders found them."
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Cygni posted:in cities that didnt engage in that game, mostly because they were massively white to start with like Seattle, there is almost no stigma at all with bus ridership getting around Seattle on the bus is great and I'd recommend it over driving which sucks because their traffic is bad unless you want to get out of the city but do that during non-commute hours for the sake of your sanity
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Elder Postsman posted:we went to this play at the mn history theater a few weeks ago and one of the quotes in the program was "very few blacks lived in Minnesota, but the road builders found them." gently caress 
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Munkeymon posted:getting around Seattle on the bus is great and I'd recommend it over driving which sucks because their traffic is bad seattle's touristy areas are dense enough and traffic-plagued enough that out-walking the bus is a viable strategy this is both good and bad
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Munkeymon posted:getting around Seattle on the bus is great and I'd recommend it over driving which sucks because their traffic is bad i visited seattle when i was like 12 and the hybrid overhead electric wire diesel buses fascinated my autistic middle school self
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mishaq posted:i visited seattle when i was like 12 and the hybrid overhead electric wire diesel buses fascinated my autistic middle school self same but I went hiking in nature because my Dad rented a car. He is a good dad.
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H.P. Hovercraft posted:tbf i get p annoyed by showtime whenever i'd ride the subway in nyc or even on the bart here ugh I loving hate this. my commute is already lovely enough gently caress off with your terrible show to some other subway car you idiots and let me do my crossword in peace
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blugu64 posted:same but I went hiking in nature because my Dad rented a car. He is a good dad. i went crabbing with my great uncle on the puget sound. a GREAT uncle
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Mar 14, 2017 15:42
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brb gonna stick this up at my workstation
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Portland will actually be buying articulated buses for a new high-capacity BRT line along Division - one of the worst routes (longest, delayed, heavily used). I suspect that will also mean the entire route will get those bioswale things. Not sure what that will mean for some of the road stretches that are already clogged up or that were already put on a road diet. It's still in the planning stage This transit project is GREAT for the east Multnomah County residents, makes taking that route as a parallel to the MAX a reality. Doesn't fix any of the larger issues we as a metropolis have: the Interstate Bridge capacity and ability to get to Hillsboro/Beaverton, etc from the north The massive freeway bottlenecks as a result of Portland's freeway revolts and the design of current roads Continuous growth to the south and west with no new high-capacity roads and poor bus/train coverage aka suburban hell
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Shaggar posted:if u cant get to and from where you want to go either walking and/or via subway its not worth going or you should just drive. shaggar likes the japanese model
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blugu64 posted:if it's worth going to, there'd be a highway exit for it [looks for the exit number for ur posting]
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Mar 16, 2017 05:15
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i gave a coworker a ride to work today (his car is in the shop), and we passed a bus with 1 passenger in it. seems very energy efficient to me.
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blugu64 posted:i gave a coworker a ride to work today (his car is in the shop), and we passed a bus with 1 passenger in it. seems very energy efficient to me. this is one of my favorite anti- mass transit canards
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Mar 30, 2017 16:27
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sometimes the bus is empty! ~*ignores the other eight hours a day where the bus has 40 people on it*~
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Mar 30, 2017 16:38
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all I'm saying is think of all the cans of food for the hungry and starving we could make when with the material when we scrap the energy hogging, unreliable, traffic causing busses, and pull up all the pointless passenger rail lines.infernal machines posted:sometimes the bus is empty! yes a bus should be empty during rush hour
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Mar 30, 2017 16:47
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ugh yeah I once passed a road crew and one of them wasn't even shoveling asphalt at the exact second I saw home so he must be just standing around for 8 hours a day wasting my goddamn tax moneys!!! 
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reminder that the retarded texan thinks you can drive to paris from londonblugu64 posted:lol driving from london to paris is shorter the Dallas to San Antonio, and I definitely fly that one if its a holiday weekend. i mean the thread has honeypot right in the title c'mon
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Mar 30, 2017 16:54
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get an amphibious car like in top gear
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in other mass transit news this is a thing that exists your commute, solved
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i love how these idiots keep reinventing charter service, and going under because it turns out not enough people want to spend that much money on a less convenient cab
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H.P. Hovercraft posted:reminder that the retarded texan thinks you can drive to paris from london did you read the posts directly above it?
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infernal machines posted:i love how these idiots keep reinventing charter service, and going under because it turns out not enough people want to spend that much money on a less convenient cab what amazes me is that they thought there was a niche to compete in vs publicly subsidized transit services my minor train station is on a chariot route and it cracks me up since it's also a VTA stop that buses arrive at synced to the trains but every day that chariot van is there now picking up like one person
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H.P. Hovercraft posted:what amazes me is that they thought there was a niche to compete in vs publicly subsidized transit services a guy i know tried to do this twice here in toronto, with routes going between downtown and the yuppie tech hub about 4km west. of course there's a train that runs four times an hour that makes the same trip for $5, and a streetcar that runs every 5 minutes that makes the same trip for $3, but whatever, sometimes those are busy. both attempts ended in months, declaring the project a "success" but wrapping up operations for "reasons".
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:seattle's touristy areas are dense enough and traffic-plagued enough that out-walking the bus is a viable strategy yeah but you do the EMP and Pikes in a day or two and then you gotta get around to the actually good/cool little restaurants and whatnot somehow also we stayed with friends in Ballard and gently caress driving in from there
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mishaq posted:i visited seattle when i was like 12 and the hybrid overhead electric wire diesel buses fascinated my autistic middle school self yeah they're neat but I found myself wishing they had air conditioning
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H.P. Hovercraft posted:reminder that the retarded texan thinks you can drive to paris from london lol
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H.P. Hovercraft posted:reminder that the retarded texan thinks you can drive to paris from london it counts as driving if you sit in your car on the train right
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hobbesmaster posted:it counts as driving if you sit in your car on the train right lol
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hobbesmaster posted:it counts as driving if you sit in your car on the train right only if you make choo choo noises as you pretend you're operating the train
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the only good use for trains, or do you all hate coral reefs as much as you hate green spaces in cities?
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