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Chris Knight
Jun 5, 2002

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Notorious b.s.d. posted:

it is admittedly something of a chicken/egg problem. much of the what is today the nyc subway was built speculatively. tracks and stations built into farms and cowtowns. and they spent an unholy amount of money to build it all -- the first bonds for subway construction were worth something like 50% of the property value of manhattan.

and they all went bankrupt and had to have the city take them over lol

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Chris Knight
Jun 5, 2002

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looks like pop is officially rolled out on all the streetcar routes http://ttc.ca/Fares_and_passes/Fare_information/Proof_of_payment.jsp

got stopped by a fare check getting off the 506 this morning

Chris Knight
Jun 5, 2002

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and well soon have another courtesy of our most recently former mayor & the spineless council who was too chicken to remind him that he couldn't unilaterally make change to the transit deal

Chris Knight
Jun 5, 2002

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Shaggar posted:

You can get around Boston fine walking and riding the t. Maybe live in better cities?

go ahead

Chris Knight
Jun 5, 2002

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https://twitter.com/moore_oliver/status/678641151298117633

Chris Knight
Jun 5, 2002

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infernal machines posted:

one of my favourite bars is within drunken stumbling distance of my apartment. another is a 10 minute streetcar ride away.

cities are great

hell yeah

Chris Knight
Jun 5, 2002

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between this and their midnight sun cruises, norway looks p. cool place to go

Chris Knight
Jun 5, 2002

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Wild EEPROM posted:

they're just switching away from honor system here and people are pissed.

vancouver, not even once.

jfc I thought they had a good thing going out there. welp

Chris Knight
Jun 5, 2002

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minivanmegafun posted:

there used to be more!



fifth ave is now Wells street. This map is from 1913

if you want to sperg out about the CTA for hours and hours go get lost on http://chicago-l.org

can i get a franklin to la salle track wobble?

Chris Knight
Jun 5, 2002

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San Diego used to use the same rolling stock as Edmonton and Calgary and Frankfurt

Chris Knight
Jun 5, 2002

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50th anniversary of the bloor line was a couple of weeks ago :toot: http://www.citynews.ca/2016/02/25/ttc-celebrates-bloor-lines-50th-birthday/

Chris Knight
Jun 5, 2002

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Silver Alicorn posted:

I don't think there's 1.6 billion people in new york

you'd be surprised


snype delayed due to injury at track level

Chris Knight
Jun 5, 2002

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Captain Foo posted:

what possible reason could there be for excluding the green line

gently caress

"heavy rail" only list

Chris Knight
Jun 5, 2002

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RoFo gets his final revenge by diverting two streetcar lines due to his funeral procession

Chris Knight
Jun 5, 2002

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pointsofdata posted:

We're laughing at some stupid Chinese proposal but it's still way better than the hyperloop

agreed, but that still doesn't make the chinese overtrainbus even remotely practical.

Chris Knight
Jun 5, 2002

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oops https://twitter.com/NEWSFORWORLD/status/736324540683452416/video/1

Chris Knight
Jun 5, 2002

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spectres of autism posted:

not rly related but i got this for my dad



special ttc edition

pro gift

Chris Knight
Jun 5, 2002

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infernal machines posted:

blue-sky speculation about turning a major downtown thoroughfare into a car-free zone in toronto

amusingly, doing so would increase the number of people able to use the street to cross the city core, since transit riders on the route already outnumber vehicle users

let's loving do this thing now

Chris Knight
Jun 5, 2002

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H.P. Hovercraft posted:

it's way more awesome when a streetcar plows into some dumbass driver tryin to cut across the tracks

it's great, the cars have no drat chance lol

Chris Knight
Jun 5, 2002

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you haven't lived until you've taken the vomit comet

Chris Knight
Jun 5, 2002

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plus you get drivers like I used to have on the 506 and now on the 501 who make funny announcements

as everyone is getting off at Yonge, "no, wait, please don't go, I can change, I promise!"

Chris Knight
Jun 5, 2002

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Cygni posted:

heres an old documentary about all the cool old transit systems in the bay area. gonna be fun having to spend billions to rebuild all this over my lifetime cause cars are bad

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ObOLGzSnNHI

v. cool

Chris Knight
Jun 5, 2002

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https://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2016/06/24/transit-boondoggle-unfolding-before-our-eyes-james.html

quote:

How do you trust a mayor who looks you in the eye to say he’s saving you money by backing a new subway that just went up in cost by a billion dollars, or more than 30 per cent?

Do you scream at the prospect of paying $3 billion to extend the subway just one stop?

What do you say to him, considering this boondoggle will cost you and your neighbours $1,300 each in a special levy lasting 30 years?

Do you break down and cry when you recall the $3 billion subway is to replace the aging Scarborough RT that could have been made state-of-the-art, like Vancouver’s Canada Line, for less than $1 billion?

Chris Knight
Jun 5, 2002

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NAFTA!

Chris Knight
Jun 5, 2002

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i've yet to catch a new car on the 514 route, but by itself it's made getting around the college st construction good

Chris Knight
Jun 5, 2002

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Lutha Mahtin posted:

my favorite american roundabouts are the ones in residential neighborhoods, where they just plopped down a circle of concrete into an existing intersection and called 'er good

michigan seems to be going for roundabouts in a big way, and they helpfully put signs up to show what lane you're supposed to be in for what direction you want

Chris Knight
Jun 5, 2002

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gently caress this gay earth https://www.thestar.com/news/city_hall/2016/07/13/city-council-debates-scarborough-subway-extension.html

quote:

City council has endorsed moving ahead with a one-stop subway extension in Scarborough, rejecting a push to revive a seven-stop LRT as part of a light-rail network that could serve more residents for less money.

The vote Wednesday was a conclusive win for Mayor John Tory, who has adamantly backed the need for subway connection to the Scarborough Town Centre he promised to build during the election. It also effectively killed the original seven-stop LRT that would have been fully funded by the province.

Chris Knight
Jun 5, 2002

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https://twitter.com/neville_park/status/753304007465168896

Chris Knight
Jun 5, 2002

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https://twitter.com/jpags/status/753583940473085952

Chris Knight
Jun 5, 2002

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MrMoo posted:

Does he have 10 wives or something? Metro pass is like $130/mo?

woosh

Chris Knight
Jun 5, 2002

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mishaq posted:

text to speech is bad on public transportation

the lovely train system in washington dulles airport both has an almost inaudible text to speech announcement system and very poor signage with no lcd or led signs that can change to let you know what the gently caress is at each stop

i see people getting really every time i fly out of there

the ttc started using some text to speech for general announcements and it's *way* more intelligible than the old system coming from the controllers. the latter have got better with some upgrades.

though it has trouble with some of the station names, like saying 'dundas' as 'dundiss' instead of 'dun-dass'

Chris Knight
Jun 5, 2002

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gently caress rob ford, but motherfuck our goddamn city council

Chris Knight
Jun 5, 2002

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oh goddamnit. loving council just die in a fire

Chris Knight
Jun 5, 2002

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Bloody posted:

elevators are by far the safest vehicle by passenger-mile

mr president, build the mile high wall tower!

Chris Knight
Jun 5, 2002

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Toronto installed tracking on busses and streetcars and it's good. except for when there are shuttles replacing streetcars then it's hosed

Chris Knight
Jun 5, 2002

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transit.app is v. good

Chris Knight
Jun 5, 2002

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Cygni posted:

LA becomes the third US metro after boston and chicago to order subway cars from chinese govt owned CRRC, mostly because they are so cheap. bodies will be built in Changchun, China, then shipped to Massachusetts for assembly. combining high quality chinese materials with american assembly quality, what could go wrong.

the first CRRC cars on US lines should show up in 2019 on boston's red line, followed by chicago and LA in 2020. hold on to ur butts.

could be worse: they could have hired bombardier

Chris Knight
Jun 5, 2002

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sure, pal, not at the rate it's going (special "gently caress you" shoutout to city council) http://www.blogto.com/city/2017/01/ttc-ceo-thinks-toronto-transit-system-will-be-best-north-america/

Chris Knight
Jun 5, 2002

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oops

https://twitter.com/cscotta/status/817548220440014849

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Jun 5, 2002

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there's way more to it than that


but it's all so dumb and depressing I can't even

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