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Black Baby Goku posted:Honestly the concept of separate laws for separate religions is loving retarded. Private arbitration--which is what sharia is in most nations--is a free association exercise. Whether you think their personal values are dumb doesn't matter.
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# ¿ Nov 25, 2015 22:29 |
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# ¿ May 12, 2024 12:38 |
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^^^I understand how it works in extremist interpretations. It's not what's happening in America or if it is it's already illegal. Black Baby Goku posted:It's not fit for western society. Let it stay in tribal third world hellholes. DeusExMachinima posted:Whether you think their personal values are dumb doesn't matter.
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# ¿ Nov 25, 2015 22:51 |
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Black Baby Goku posted:It has nothing to do with "values" Mhm. Doesn't matter what you wish to call it. First Amendment exercises aren't up for approval.
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# ¿ Nov 25, 2015 23:21 |
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^^^if the cooker explosion didn't involve negligence on McDonald's part I agree.Black Baby Goku posted:Lets equate religious courts with contract law.
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# ¿ Nov 26, 2015 00:01 |
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Manic X posted:The problem began a very long time ago. Back in the early times of recent human civilisations (I'm talking 4000+ years ago) people were policed by communal values. Breaking of communal values meant one was abandoned by the community and left to fend for themselves. Humans work best in smaller communities. A global community can never work since it is hard to empathise with people you have never met. That's why we have capitalism. With exceptions for monopolistic abuse (amongst other cases), the general rule is that you benefit when you keep the customer coming back. Your welfare can be linked to theirs. Otherwise yeah we'd still be living in caves.
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# ¿ Nov 26, 2015 18:10 |
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Black Baby Goku still doesn't understand that anyone's desires or moral authority measures up to the First Amendment trump card, which comes out on top of everything. First Amendment rights to contract, association, and religion even if it's disgusting (purely for example).Black Baby Goku posted:Don't allow religions to treat women as second class citizens Forget arbitration. How the gently caress are you going to accomplish this without straight banning any exercise of "traditional" and/or "conservative" religious beliefs of most any kind?
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# ¿ Nov 26, 2015 21:22 |
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# ¿ May 12, 2024 12:38 |
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I'm really at loss for how fast people turn on the First Amendment right to religion and free association (which is what private arbitration is) when someone's doing something they don't like and/or that scares them. Your approval of what ethical standard of living someone consents to doesn't matter, as long as physical violence isn't involved in the arbiter's ruling, and if you have hard proof of that happening in an American private sharia court bring it up already. Of course that'll still only impune that one court who did it and everyone else doesn't lose an iota of their rights to free associate into other sharia arbiters, but hey it's better than pure conjecture about clashing civilizations or whatever. poo poo or get off the pot.RACHET posted:He's gay so let's throw him off a building and then stone him to death after his legs are broken. We're talking about Islam, not Arabic culture, so that's not really relevant. It's a common mistake you're making and often why people slamming Muslims get pinned with the racism accusation because they made it too. Most Muslims are from Southeast Asia.
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# ¿ Nov 29, 2015 21:44 |