The Expanse: Neo-noir sci-fi from the comfort of your crash couch

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Rocksicles: Oct 19, 2012; by Nyc_Tattoo

Strategic Tea posted:

Noir detectives are (the only people) allowed to wear fedoras/trilbies/whatever

And black guys.

# ¿ Dec 7, 2015 03:11

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# ¿ May 21, 2024 01:19

Rocksicles: Oct 19, 2012; by Nyc_Tattoo

Right? i thought it looked amazing, especially from a syfy show.

# ¿ Dec 8, 2015 22:19

Rocksicles: Oct 19, 2012; by Nyc_Tattoo

Thad Castle disagrees

# ¿ Dec 13, 2015 01:51

Rocksicles: Oct 19, 2012; by Nyc_Tattoo

He looks like Stephen Amell had a jaw upgrade

# ¿ Dec 17, 2015 01:32

Rocksicles: Oct 19, 2012; by Nyc_Tattoo

Best post of the thread.

# ¿ Dec 17, 2015 09:13

Rocksicles: Oct 19, 2012; by Nyc_Tattoo

I'm watching Adam Savage and Chief Tyrol build BSG model kits.... Nothing phases me anymore.

# ¿ Dec 18, 2015 03:12

Rocksicles: Oct 19, 2012; by Nyc_Tattoo

Awful lot of stuff being tagged from the books...

# ¿ Dec 19, 2015 02:43

Rocksicles: Oct 19, 2012; by Nyc_Tattoo

I like how they are exactly the same as they are now, but they have a sense of humor!

# ¿ Dec 19, 2015 04:27

Rocksicles: Oct 19, 2012; by Nyc_Tattoo

Dude..... wtf.

*book spoilers* this really isn't cool anymore.

# ¿ Dec 19, 2015 11:31

Rocksicles: Oct 19, 2012; by Nyc_Tattoo

Some dickhead is going mental about how much it sucks in another tv forum. I think he's off his meds.

# ¿ Dec 21, 2015 15:31

Rocksicles: Oct 19, 2012; by Nyc_Tattoo

Can't be dead, i was rooting for him during that epic escape. Tough but fair Spacemarine going rogue to save his planet. It pretty much writes itself.

# ¿ Dec 23, 2015 01:09

Rocksicles: Oct 19, 2012; by Nyc_Tattoo

Again with the book spoilers...

# ¿ Dec 25, 2015 03:55

Rocksicles: Oct 19, 2012; by Nyc_Tattoo

I downloaded the books the other day, but already had the books and potentially the show spoiled by accident.

Mucho gay

# ¿ Dec 25, 2015 18:29

Rocksicles: Oct 19, 2012; by Nyc_Tattoo

KatWithHands posted:

There is if you're in Canada, because we have the SyFy affiliate Space here: http://www.space.ca/featuredshow/the-expanse/ They upload the episodes at the same time SyFy does. If someone from the US could try an episode there and tell me if it's region-locked for Canada, I'd appreciate it. I know when Space had the pilot up on their Facebook account it was region-free, but their actual site might be different.

If there are other legal international means that you guys know about, please gimme a shout and I'll make them available in the OP.

VPN's aren't illegal

# ¿ Dec 31, 2015 01:26

Rocksicles: Oct 19, 2012; by Nyc_Tattoo

I have one specifically for netflix and poo poo. Works fine on syfy's website.

# ¿ Dec 31, 2015 02:50

Rocksicles: Oct 19, 2012; by Nyc_Tattoo

Who says there aren't in the Hoth system?

# ¿ Dec 31, 2015 09:28

Rocksicles: Oct 19, 2012; by Nyc_Tattoo

I don't even know why it's still being discussed.

This is a great series and people are actively ruining it, on purpose.

# ¿ Jan 5, 2016 04:06

Rocksicles: Oct 19, 2012; by Nyc_Tattoo

It's not a book spoiler thread, end of story... it's pretty easy to not do it.

# ¿ Jan 5, 2016 04:19

Rocksicles: Oct 19, 2012; by Nyc_Tattoo

It's not the fact they are posting them, it's the fact that they are repeatedly not tagging them properly.

It's loving poo poo at best.

# ¿ Jan 5, 2016 04:40

Rocksicles: Oct 19, 2012; by Nyc_Tattoo

Well there are some people who still tag when talking about episodes. It happens everyday.

# ¿ Jan 5, 2016 08:24

Rocksicles: Oct 19, 2012; by Nyc_Tattoo

I just get really high on dabs.

Same same but different.

# ¿ Jan 11, 2016 07:14

Rocksicles: Oct 19, 2012; by Nyc_Tattoo

Don't say that mate.

# ¿ Jan 18, 2016 10:31

Rocksicles: Oct 19, 2012; by Nyc_Tattoo

etalian posted:

What other symbolism should they use?

# ¿ Jan 23, 2016 05:44

Rocksicles: Oct 19, 2012; by Nyc_Tattoo

DrPlump posted:

This site is really good at explaining the mechanics in the series.

Epstien Drive: http://www.projectrho.com/public_html/rocket/enginelist.php#id--Fusion--%7B_Epstein_Drive_%7D

About Flip and Burn: http://www.projectrho.com/public_html/rocket/torchships.php#id--Brachistochrone_Equations

Cue the armchair physicists

# ¿ Jan 26, 2016 06:40

Rocksicles: Oct 19, 2012; by Nyc_Tattoo

Hahaha way to notice stuff.

# ¿ Jan 28, 2016 14:52

Rocksicles: Oct 19, 2012; by Nyc_Tattoo

What is with that avatar dude.

# ¿ Jan 31, 2016 05:14

Rocksicles: Oct 19, 2012; by Nyc_Tattoo

Gravity Slingshots are awesome in Universe Sandbox 2.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uz3iklObSzM&t=610s

# ¿ Feb 3, 2016 02:08

Rocksicles: Oct 19, 2012; by Nyc_Tattoo

Wish i could make this Expanse solar system in Universe Sandbox 2.

# ¿ Feb 5, 2016 04:43

Rocksicles: Oct 19, 2012; by Nyc_Tattoo

Forget it, somehow this thread gets a pass from the usual rules.

# ¿ Feb 5, 2016 15:15

Rocksicles: Oct 19, 2012; by Nyc_Tattoo

DarkCrawler posted:

Unless Universe Sandbox 2 is radically different from 1, the Expanse Solar System is just the Solar System with some tiny crap on it. Won't make much difference gravity/orbit wise.

I mean having the full asteroid belt and kuiper belt without my computer melting. Terraforming Mars and poo poo can be done alright.

# ¿ Feb 6, 2016 16:00

Rocksicles: Oct 19, 2012; by Nyc_Tattoo

Evernoob posted:

How long would it take in real life if a ship was going to travel from earth to mars at 0,38G constant acceleration, flipping around at the halfway point? This with good to optimal planetary alignment.

0,38G acceleration doesn't seem to be a whole lot to me... however keeping this up constantly might indeed result in pretty high velocities.

What kind of trajectory and acceleration did the Viking Probes use?
As I understand with my very limited physics, due to the Epstien drive all fuel costs are pretty much neglected so they basically travel from A to B in a pretty much straight line. In our world we are limited by fuel so we need to take a much longer way around in order to fight gravity and momentum as little as possible.

PS : I went into this series without any prior information and I'm now totally hooked. A part of the next seasons I hope this kind of series will gain a lot of following so we can get more of the same.

How the gently caress could anyone answer that?

# ¿ Feb 8, 2016 14:10

Rocksicles: Oct 19, 2012; by Nyc_Tattoo

Props.

emanresu tnuocca posted:

Watch me try:

First, you are making the incorrect assumption that the Epstein drive makes fuel usage irrelevant, it doesn't, it simply makes fuel usage efficient to the point where return trips across the solar system at a reasonable velocity are not impossible. The problem with current space travel is that fuel is mass and extra mass requires extra delta v ergo extra fuel, currently ships and probes use all sort of maneuvers that are designed to reduce fuel consumption to an absolute minimum, they actually don't accelerate at all for the majority of the trip.

Here's for instance how current generation spacecraft travel from earth to mars: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hohmann_transfer_orbit

Note the vessel only accelerates during two points in the journey and expands the minimal amount of fuel.

Now, epstein drives are not infinite delta-v generators, they are simply a whole lot more efficient but the assumption that they can just burn at 10gs forever is incorrect. So... while 0.3g isn't high acceleration, if you accelerate at 0.3 for an hour you add 1000m/s to your velocity, so if you keep doing that for a while you achieve a decent velocity, flip mid way through and then decelerate until you reach orbital velocity. It will probably take a few weeks/months depending on the relative orbital positions of the planets.

etc etc

I like that level of nerdism.

flosofl posted:

With math.

Prove it.

# ¿ Feb 8, 2016 14:39

Rocksicles: Oct 19, 2012; by Nyc_Tattoo

Yes! that's the stuff.

# ¿ Feb 8, 2016 14:51

Rocksicles: Oct 19, 2012; by Nyc_Tattoo

I was totally expecting some sci-fi math goon to work it out, don't worry.

Never underestimate the level goons will go to prove a point.

# ¿ Feb 8, 2016 15:00

Rocksicles: Oct 19, 2012; by Nyc_Tattoo

flosofl posted:

"delta-v" is definitely a thing engineers say (grew up raised by engineers)(which explains a lot). I've never seen it as dV, which would be confusing I think, since typically d=derivative and delta=change.

Could be worse. Could have been Software Engineers.

# ¿ Feb 9, 2016 16:00

Rocksicles: Oct 19, 2012; by Nyc_Tattoo

Flesh Forge posted:

Those forums are legit

Just joined, never leaving.

Probably like GBS, but for smart people.

# ¿ Feb 10, 2016 14:58

Rocksicles: Oct 19, 2012; by Nyc_Tattoo

Kesper North posted:

Somewhat fine. The couple of people sitting near him were badly burned. But yeah, it could have been way worse, and the fact that the guy just blew himself out the side of the airplane is loving hilarious, really.

I'd like to take a moment to plug the excellent Spaceflight Megathread:

http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?noseen=0&threadid=3580990

If you're interested in real space stuff, or just have questions like the ones that have been coming up in this thread, it's an excellent thread to follow with lots of posters who actually work in both science/exploration and commercial spaceflight.

Railgun chat: The reason why railguns are CQB weapons is because if you fire them at range, your target can detect and jink to avoid them, because they can't steer after being fired. So you want to make sure that you're so close to your target when you fire that dodging simply is not possible. The same is true for point-defense batteries; you have to wait for the missile to get close enough that it can be shot down without dodging.

Lasers work around this by - at least across the range at which they are effective as weapons - hitting their target more or less instantly, but power requirements are even higher than a railgun. The state of the art in weaponized lasers is getting to the point where we're probably going to start seeing them actually get deployed as point-defense batteries on ships and aircraft:

http://m.military.com/daily-news/2015/06/16/navy-plans-to-fire-lasers-from-carriers.html

You can see that the reasons for using lasers instead of projectiles are pretty much the same as the ones I've cited - mass, space, ammunition, cost. It's also worth considering that lasers work a lot better in space than they do in atmosphere, since there's no dust or water vapor to scatter the beam.

Missiles are going to be the go-to ship-to-ship space weapon for medium to long range engagements, pretty much exactly as portrayed in The Expanse - possibly augmented by unmanned combat drones. Missiles are a great space weapon: self-propelled, small, stealthy, and able to coast ballistically for an indefinite period before relighting their drive and going in for the kill. Also if you change your mind, you can cancel the attack. You can't take back a railgun spike.

All this being said, I think all these weapons are going to be used in various situations. I just find the absence of shipboard lasers slightly conspicuous, but as others have mentioned that may be because lasers seem less 'grounded' than projectiles. Or perhaps there's other reasons. Franck and Abraham are smart guys, they probably have a reason.