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Kinda wish I read the book after watching the show instead of before. Some of the changes they make in the first 4 episodes are strange. Otherwise show is good, kinda wished some real company would've picked it up instead of a cable TV channel. You can really tell its made for TV.
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# ¿ Jun 21, 2016 20:37 |
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# ¿ May 17, 2024 23:10 |
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One of the changes I really don't like so far is the mis-characterization and almost sidelining of Miller. In the book he's almost a dark storm cloud wherever he goes but in this he's like goofy. Plus it seems like they're almost completely ignoring Miller altogether in favor of the golden child Holden I guess. I think they should've scrapped the book 2 Earth stuff and given Miller his actual role as a main character. I'm super Salty though about one line. When he talks to that dad near the train station he says "nah no kids, missed that boat" ugh so boring. In the books he says (he's 2 1/2 years old) "I got a divorce about that age" which is an awesome line
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# ¿ Jun 22, 2016 01:20 |
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Maybe I don't have a good opinion about Miller because he's had like 10 minutes of screen time across 4 episodes. Maybe the rest of the show gets it better but so far I feel like Miller has been sidelined. Also mental image aside, Miller is literally pointed out and laughed at as an alcoholic washout. I don't get boozed out loser from show Miller but Thomas Jane is killin it regardless I feel like they've hit everything that Holden and co. have done so far but they've missed a lot of what Miller has been doing. Phi230 fucked around with this message at 02:32 on Jun 22, 2016 |
# ¿ Jun 22, 2016 02:29 |
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I mean I'm enjoying what I'm watching. Its not like I'm angry that they're ruining the adaptation so much as I feel like they're missing opportunities. Like the line I referenced.
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# ¿ Jun 22, 2016 02:55 |
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So I made it to Episode 8, Adam Jensen's character is cool. Amos being a loose cannon doesn't fit him in the book but I can see how since they haven't met Miller yet he's gotta fill that internal conflict role that Miller did post-Eros. I also assume that Ep. 8 is gonna be the Eros shitshow, which I hope they don't gently caress up (they haven't been loving up very much so here's to optimism). I understand that its on TV and not like HBO/Showtime/whatever and they can't do R rated stuff (But somehow AMC can?) but they did blow Shed's head off and have the blood sphere so who knows. Maybe we'll see headless torsos crawling around and vomit zombies maybe we'll see more blue fireflies and a nondescript sphere of blue. I kinda wish Miller would start hallucinating Julie already, but I guess its too late. Also kinda don't like how they're making Fred some shady enemy guy. I also don't like how they made the OPA generic bad guys. I also got a little confused on how they accelerated Holden's storyline to find the Anubis on the asteroid, without Miller. I'll be exceptionally disappointed if they don't pull the "Mars/Earth is uninvolved, it was evil Protogen all along" twist in lieu of "Oh Mars is just the bad guy" Phi230 fucked around with this message at 21:50 on Jun 23, 2016 |
# ¿ Jun 23, 2016 18:50 |
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I'm really surprised they showed Julie in the bathtub as described in the book. I was sure they were gonna handle the Protomolecule completely different.
Phi230 fucked around with this message at 21:50 on Jun 23, 2016 |
# ¿ Jun 23, 2016 20:49 |
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The casting is p. much perfect except the literal whitewashing of Ade. Alex putting on the MCRN uniform and being unable to zip it because of his pot belly is 10/10
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# ¿ Jun 24, 2016 13:56 |
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Tree Dude posted:I think they can wrap LW up in like 4 episodes and have that midseason shocker that GoT is making popular. Yea I can see that. Book 2 begins on episode 5 when does season 2 air btw?
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# ¿ Jun 24, 2016 17:36 |
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Yeah the casinos were more pronounced. Like to get anywhere on Eros you had to go through what essentially were 3 casino floors like out of lovely Atlantic city casino
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# ¿ Jun 24, 2016 20:51 |
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my bones are of average density suck it belters belters dont drink milk, no calcium, no strong bones
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# ¿ Jul 11, 2016 20:14 |
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Zsinjeh posted:Came to post this. Egg shells used to be the classic thing way back in the old days (at least here in the Nordics) when you brewed coffee in your pot over a fireplace/stove. Since you only had that one pot with you out camping/the fields you added egg shells from the hardboiled eggs you made before and it would bind the ground coffee to the bottom of the pot and make it easier to pour in a cup without adding coffee grounds (plus less bitter). Also it totally sounds like something a Belter would do (if they had space eggs available ) There's no reason belter's wouldn't have eggs or livestock I know Air and Water are at a premium, but food wise just feed them the recycled dead like they do with everyone else. Belter beef would be pretty bad I would imagine though, very low muscle on those cows.
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# ¿ Jul 14, 2016 14:14 |
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Vanderdeath posted:Space Turtle is as smart as he is deadly. We should all aspire to be part of his murderous entourage. How is he space turtle? He is competent and successful with women. He is more like space Billy Walsh/Drama hybrid Alex serves more as a space Turtle, space Vince obviously is Jim, Naomi is space E. Miller is space Ari
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# ¿ Sep 8, 2016 15:50 |
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Baronjutter posted:Yeah, realistically not only would ever single ship in the system be real time tracked by several countries/agencies at all times, but nearly every asteroid or space rock or bit of debris from a mining accident would all be tagged and tracked automatically. A lot of those wouldn't need constant real time monitoring, but their projected orbit would be recorded and depending on where the object is heading it would get different levels of monitoring. Actually if the Space Station was properly abandoned, with the owner of both the station AND the property inside the station either cannot reasonably be determined or have intentionally abandoned said station and property, then even under normal property law the finder of said cargo container can claim ownership. Not sure about maritime law, but I'm sure space falls under international waters thus abandoned property at sea would fall under salvage laws and be completely legitimate to take.
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# ¿ Sep 8, 2016 20:20 |
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Phanatic posted:That is not how salvage laws work. Salvage law encodes the notion that if you recover lost property, you are entitled to a reward commensurate with its value and your level of risk, *not* that you can just take it and it becomes yours. ah you say lost property now but in the original hypo you said abandoned huge legal difference between lost and abandoned
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# ¿ Sep 9, 2016 14:58 |
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Phanatic posted:There is, but the only relevance that has for salvage is if you're a crew on the vessel in the first place. If your ship breaks and you abandon it without permission, then *you* can't benefit from salvaging the ship and cargo that you abandoned. If the ship's master gives an abandon ship order, then you subsequently can get paid if you salvage it. ok so I feel the relevant fact here is going into an abandoned space station, does the interior of a space station continue to fall under maritime law? Or does it count as "land" under the jurisdiction of whatever sovereign entity that owns it? If so, then you can keep the cargo container in question after following any relevant procedure of the jurisdiction the abandoned property falls in.
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# ¿ Sep 10, 2016 00:09 |
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Baronjutter posted:I'm running a loving pen and paper scify game with some nerds and a lot of the plot is around this as they own a salvage and repair ship. Contract law and salvage law comes up a lot. Traveller or what? Also Post v. Jones (60 U.S. 150) has much relevance in the world of the joining of Contract and Salvage law
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# ¿ Sep 10, 2016 00:11 |
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And I'm arguing from a Watsonian perspective here, so based on ALex's statement of "its legitimate salvage" and from the amount of activity in space in The Expanse we can assume there is a good body of common law based around space operations or a treaty may have just established space as maritime law
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# ¿ Sep 10, 2016 00:15 |
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Phanatic posted:Right now, today? No. It falls under the Outer Space Treaty and that space station is the property of whatever country's registry it was on when it was launched and you can't do poo poo to it without that country's permission. I'm talking cargo essentially converted from the space station. And yeah, from a Watsonian perspective, there is an assumption the law has changed as of The Expanse I feel that if the owner of the space station was impossible to find, IE the station was "mislaid" then I feel you could enforce a claim of title until the true owner revealed himself
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# ¿ Sep 10, 2016 01:38 |
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i hate how Fred and Jim are made to be enemies when Fred is chillman in the first book at least
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# ¿ Dec 8, 2016 04:59 |
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Is that sequence the end of book 1?
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# ¿ Jan 6, 2017 03:36 |
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Atarask posted:Well that explains the whole Canton. They must have kept rolling 1s and the whole initial campaign got derailed for a bit. Miller's that rear end in a top hat who keeps trying to split the party
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# ¿ Jan 27, 2017 16:13 |
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# ¿ May 17, 2024 23:10 |
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NmareBfly posted:The healer was played by someone who got a job in another city and had to ditch the group like three weeks into the campaign. Its because the main party, sans Johnson or Miller, have already spent years with each other on the Cant
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# ¿ Jan 27, 2017 18:30 |