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Enter: Barack Obama, circa 2013:quote:President Barack Obama said Monday that his decision to place U.S. Special Operations forces in Syria is "consistent" with his promise not to put boots on the ground. Scene change: 2015, Obama's words holding steadfa-- quote:Secretary of Defense Ash Carter announced Tuesday that the U.S. military will send "a specialized expeditionary targeting force" aimed at conducting more raids in Iraq. It's not boots on ground, it's foot apparel temporarily occupying space on surfaces, Obama told me so!
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Inferior Third Season posted:They were just a fledgling group in 2013. Now they occupy significant chunks of land, have killed a poo poo ton of people, have committed terrorist acts in Europe, threaten terrorist acts against the U.S, and we have done about as much as we can with airstrikes already. It's hard to cut Obama slack when he's been actively opposing sending in any significant amount of force to directly confront ISIS. It's not just 'he's doing something he said he wasn't', he has repeatedly said it's the objectively wrong thing to do. Is D&D going to be so chill when he approves of sending in actual ground troops in six or eight months? (Silly question, I know the answer)
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Dec 1, 2015 18:45
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In other news, something I wasn't expecting -- a notable resignation from the fallout of the Laquan McDonald shooting:quote:Mayor Rahm Emanuel said Tuesday that he had formally asked for the resignation of Superintendent Garry McCarthy, who Emanuel hand-picked as the city's top cop in 2011. Wasn't actually expecting any resignations, but at the same time this seems like the usual routine of picking someone to publicly take the heat.
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Dec 1, 2015 19:09
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greatn posted:It's not enough. There are so many people involved in the cover up. I want names of the person who deleted surveillance footage, who took in a witness and told them they didn't see anything. They must be prosecuted for conspiracy and obstruction of justice. Do you think Rahm Emanuel should resign as well? The dirty on him is that he used his power to delay the release of the video so that it wouldn't interfere in his reelection. On one hand, idle gossip. On the other, it's Rahm Emmanuel.
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Dec 1, 2015 19:17
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Fried Chicken posted:Does "be hanged from the nearest lamppost until dead, while small children taunt him and throw stones at him as he struggles against slow strangulation" count as resign? If so, yes. Tell me how you really feel, Fried Chicken. Man, I remember when goons thought Rahm was a cool dude sending dead fish to people. What happened to you, Rahm old buddy?
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Dec 1, 2015 19:27
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Talmonis posted:It's almost as if situations can change and hurling the full weight of the U.S. Military at random countries on a loving whim isn't the best approach to foreign affairs. Wantonly invading soverign nations without international agreement is objectively the wrong thing to do. Hey man, tell that to Obama, I'm not the one sending Special Forces to directly confront ISIS! vvvvv Ride it out until the 2016 election vvvvv BetterToRuleInHell fucked around with this message at 19:35 on Dec 1, 2015 |
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Dec 1, 2015 19:32
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Yes, yes, it's Fox News, but reports are cops have the names of the two killed, but are holding off until they are absolutely sure they can confirm the identities match the bodies. I'm also hearing conflicting information that the name mentioned earlier (Farooq Saeed) was 'brushed off' during the investigation, but that only meant that name didn't turn up in any databases, but at the same time that name was traced back to the apartment that one of the suspects was believed to be hiding in? This last set of information is a jumbled mess.
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Dec 3, 2015 03:30
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Rexicon1 posted:It just doesn't seem like typical terror cell MO with the running and all. You do know that one of the Paris terrorists was killed while on the run and there's still a manhunt for another, right?
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Dec 3, 2015 04:21
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NBC News also reported that Farook's brother may be one of the other suspects, which one would infer he is the third suspect currently being in jail. Come on, USPol, cheer up, you guys were so much more positive and snarky when you thought it was white right wing guys.
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Dec 3, 2015 05:14
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Joementum posted:CAIR is holding a press conference with a relative of one of the suspects at 11:30 ET / 8:30 PT. Haha, this is going to be such a shitshow.
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Dec 3, 2015 05:17
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Republicans posted:It could be a workplace shooting inspired by radicalism like Nidal Hasan. The accomplices are what make it weird but I guess they were just down with whatever so long as they got to kill people. Haha what, this is the worst thing to compare this to.
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Dec 3, 2015 05:59
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Second suspect identified -- Tayeep Bin Ardogan, a Qatar citizen. Don't worry guys, anytime soon we're going to get the surprise evidence of them being secret right-wing militiamen! You just got to believe!
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Dec 3, 2015 06:05
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Unzip and Attack posted:LOL you're actually glad the suspects are Muslim, aren't you? You're a really terrible person. Not at all. It's terrible in both it confirms the worst fears that islamaphobes have and that it is apparently a devout Muslim who who is confirming those fears and that Muslims will feel the effects of his actions. I am entertained by the the flood of goonthink after the shooting that happily went along with blaming rightwing aspects and shaming goons for even entertaining the thought of ISIS inspired terrorism suddenly turn face and ignore their own rush to judgement. Even now after the fact there is a rush to judgement about a Muslim cleansing.
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Dec 3, 2015 06:20
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:I'm in a real bad and worried mood so I gotta ask. What would a Trump presidency look like exactly? What is the extent of what he could do with the power that comes with being the PoTUS? How much damage could he theoretically do? What checks and balances could there be to stop him from being a total monster? I'm asking this as a serious question, so please don't post one of the trillion jokes about a Trump America. I've read and laughed at them all. I could honestly see a lot of civil unrest. How do you win the presidency with the poo poo he says and then not attempt to live up to them in some form or another? The question is, what group would cause more unrest, the minority population upset by his outlandish claims or the white base who would feel betrayed if he didn't try to live up to his promises? And as for the CBS News I posted earlier about the second suspect, I totally eat poo poo on that one.
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Dec 3, 2015 06:32
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Joementum posted:My earlier hunch that this was a workplace dispute involving a man and his girlfriend / wife seems to be holding up. I am really curious if there has been a notable case of of workplace shooting involving couples, I mean I'm sure there has to be some cases but that seems so rare as hell.
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Dec 3, 2015 07:18
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^^^^^ Two rifles and two handguns seem like the lesser of dangers compared to what they could have done with that many explosives ^^^^^Mr. Wookums posted:As a white male I could not imagine being the target of all the Islamaphobia in this country (and likely office). Yeah, I'm sure a county environmental specialist in San Bernardino had it rough. BetterToRuleInHell fucked around with this message at 18:59 on Dec 3, 2015 |
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Dec 3, 2015 18:57
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greatn posted:I have Muslim friends and coworkers I trust and respect, and other coworkers saying dumb poo poo loudly within earshot. How the gently caress do you just go along like everything is normal when your name is Ahmed? If I was one of your friends/co-workers, I'd be really loving pissed at Syed Farook for giving the ignorant co-workers validity to their muslim boogeyman. Also, by extension, Farook's family. This wasn't a loner living in a shack out in a remote location, it was a couple apparently building explosives in their god drat apartment. With a child! It was his brother or father who said yesterday something along the lines "I'm in shock, I don't know how he could have done this, he was quiet and went to work and then to pray"...if you're so goddamned sure how he led his life then how the gently caress did you not noticed slightest change in him or his partner? That last part is just me pissed about those reactions from the family of shooting suspects, which are personally as stupid as the people recycling their usual thoughts and prayers.
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Dec 3, 2015 19:58
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Can someone please clarify: 1) Is the suspect's home, which couldn't possibly not still be under active investigation, being contaminated by the presence of the public and press? 2) Have their been identified press who have entered the suspect's home (goons have mentioned CNN and Inside Edition)?
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Dec 4, 2015 19:19
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Holy poo poo, even if the scene was cleared by the FBI (would be mind-blowing if that's the case), this is loving bonkers. This become such a loving absurd zoo.
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Dec 4, 2015 19:39
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Rhesus Pieces posted:This is unreal. Just staggering incompetence by everyone involved. The loving garage just yesterday was repeatedly described as a 'IED factory', so who in the gently caress in their right mind thought it'd be good to clear that location, jesus christ.
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Dec 4, 2015 19:41
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HuffPo is reporting the Landlord didn't authorize the press to enter, he opened the door and they swarmed it. Who know anymore, let's keep this trainwreck going. The US 'Press', ladies and gentlemen.
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Dec 4, 2015 19:45
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Torlo Hans posted:Remember when someone said if this was linked to ISIS, the country would lose it's God damned mind? Well this is what it looks like when the country is losing its God damned mind. No, it's not. The Fort Hood shooter shot military personnel. The Boston bombers used explosives at a highly visible marathon. The country did not institute a ethnic cleansing or explode into uncontrollable civil unrest. The 'Press' is being itself when it's given unfettered access to instant reporting gratification and people (at the house) are acting they way they do when you let people embrace their morbid curiosity.
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Dec 4, 2015 20:58
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The state of the press is so bad that Fox News seems to be the only ones who can mock other outlets for pilfering through the suspect's apartment.
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I don't think the Farooq family picked the right lawyer to help them through this tragedy:quote:A lawyer for the family of suspected San Bernardino gunman Syed Rizwan Farook floated skepticism about the 2012 Sandy Hook Elementary shooting in his efforts to cast doubt on early police findings about the massacre at a county holiday party that left 14 dead this week.
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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:@AP 21m21 minutes ago The narrative is starting to break towards the fiancee being the person who radicalized Syed.
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Phone posting so I can't post it, but Dyed's father gave an interview with a Italian paper La Stampa which was translated by the Times of Israel. In it the father admitted he knew his son followed and supported ISIS' leader ideology and became 'obsessive' about Israel. He also said that he tried to calm his son down by telling him that he shouldn't worry about Israel because the world powers would not want the Jews there anymore and move them. I found the the article which the text confirms so it's more than laughing it off as slander by the Times of Israel. Under this context it's harder to feel sympathy for this family with their repeated pleas of ignorance. Also his father sounds like a class act. Now it makes more sense as to why they picked their sandy hook truther lawyer.
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Dec 6, 2015 22:17
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The Larch posted:How credible of a newspaper is La Stampa? No clue, it'd be great for goon confirmation as I do not know Italian papers so it very well may be a satirical site.
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Dec 6, 2015 22:32
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It's going to either be Putin or Trump; my money is on Putin.
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Dec 7, 2015 21:53
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STAC Goat posted:Can someone explain to me why the hot actress from Clueless who never ages is a Fox News commentator? Because she's a black female conservative? I say that in jest but honestly at the same time I have no loving clue as to why the why and how she landed a TV spot at Fox News. Same with Kennedy. As for Stacy and that old rambling white guy dropping pussy on mic, they've both been suspended for two weeks. Expect GoFundMes or another dumb funding campaign for them since the majority of conservative views also think that Obama's a big old pussy who doesn't give a poo poo about non-muslims.
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Dec 7, 2015 22:48
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Why is Bill Kristol sad? As much as I hate sounding blatantly partisan, Trump and his ramblings are the end result of his party's fomenting white, christian insecurity. gently caress you now and forever Bill Kristol you monstrous piece of poo poo. I can't even get mad Trump, he eats this poo poo up, Kristol however is a different beast altogether.
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Dec 7, 2015 23:07
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Sad Bill Kristol concludes his Trump musings with this:quote:Final Trump tweet: I've dismissed such conspiracy theories before...but how do we REALLY know that Trump isn't a Clinton double agent? Asking the hard questions!
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Dec 7, 2015 23:34
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Shes Not Impressed posted:No, you meant a state (because it's in their name, lol). Just admit it was a dumb thing to say and not move your goal posts further. I don't understand why there is so much pushback and what he trying to convey though. Goons repeating the thought that ISIS is unsustainable make it seem like ISIS is on the brink of collapse so gently caress it, you know? They've already defeated themselves, they just don't know it.
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Dec 8, 2015 19:17
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zoux posted:Maybe I'm just a SJW but this seems racist to me. What's missing in this is Scalia pointing out that he is a expert Phrenologist and black people have have unusual skulls, you see.
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Dec 9, 2015 20:40
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Paradoxish posted:So, what, 59% are just like "No, blatantly racist and hateful messaging isn't insulting and wrong at all, why do you ask?" I wonder what the racial makeup of that 59% was -- just how many hispanic and black people forgot how they were previously viewed as job-stealing illegal rapist violent thugs, forgetting all that because muslims are the target now.
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Dec 11, 2015 00:01
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Luigi Thirty posted:Augusta County, VA had to close all its schools tomorrow because of the volume of complaints and threats received after some right-wing rag posted that there was going to be a FORCED CONVERSION TO ISLAM (using the shahada as an example of Arabic calligraphy) at schools there. Saw this earlier, forgot to reply. I know the reaction is over the top, but the way the teacher went about this was really stupid. It wasn't simple calligraphy, it was calligraphy of the Shahada, which by its very definition is testimony, a statement of faith. I'd be upset with that as much as the teacher asking students draw pictures of the stations of the cross while reciting Matthew 6:9. How hard is it to loving just teach the historical context of the world's religions?
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Turns out Obama is one dumb motherfucker:quote:In his meeting with the columnists, Mr. Obama indicated that he did not see enough cable television to fully appreciate the anxiety after the attacks in Paris and San Bernardino, and made clear that he plans to step up his public arguments. Quoted from a NY Times article, which said quote was then removed without explanation, only to be explained away after being caught editing the article as 'spacing reasons'. Dumb motherfuckers everywhere.
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Dec 18, 2015 20:51
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Zelder posted:Obama, once again, underestimating the American public Hey man, I don't think you understand how complex cable television is. Screens and signals and light waves or some poo poo, and then you have to watch it? The president is only human!
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Dec 18, 2015 20:58
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CommieGIR posted:Oh, and the laughable part is where you think a guy whose entire legal experience is in Constitutional Law is making poo poo up. This statement makes me think you weren't around USPol when after becoming president, Obama didn't do anything to the telecoms who gave data en mass to the CIA and other government agencies. 'He's a constitutional law professor! He knows the law!' They won't get away with it' Yeah, the tears flowed those days...
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Dec 22, 2015 18:58
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CommieGIR posted:Its an established law, and its within his power to change the interpretation of it. Keep trying though. That sounds terrifying. I hope you're as chill with it if we get a republican president who starts to interpret poo poo his/her way.
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I'm guessing the poo poo that would go down with a republican president post-Obama would make Bush's executive action look tame in comparison.
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