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Sardine Wit posted:This is a great read and holy poo poo why would short selling stock be legal? Is there any benefit to the economy at large? it's just another form of financial speculation. unless you want to ban that outright there's no reason for it not to be
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gradenko_2000 posted:The idea behind this is based on historical hindsight: the industrial revolution would have changed up economics and manufacturing so much that slavery would no longer have been a feasible backbone for the Southern economy and they would have had to either adapt or collapse. that's not even true, it never would have become financially unfeasible. brazil only dropped slavery because the british threatened to stop buying their stuff if they didn't. and then the british in their own caribbean slave colonies only ended it in theory and replaced it with subcontinental indian indentured labor icantfindaname fucked around with this message at 20:38 on Dec 2, 2015 |
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Popular Thug Drink posted:yeah but this would not have been likely, the south might possibly have had the military resources to pull off an invasion of mexico but all of their geopolitical moves would have been with the north watching and waiting for any chance to pounce. like the north has to be so demoralized as to not invoke monroe doctrine against what it sees as an illegitimate treason state they wanted Cuba and probably would have gotten it. if the south had succeeded it almost certainly would have become a Latin America-style banana republic under British suzerainty. but yeah there's 0% chance they would have ever succeeded to begin with
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Radbot posted:Please explain how you'd implement "militant secularism", tia guiollitines and barges on the loire
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Cool Bear posted:We need to look at our society and ask "Why the god drat hell does a normal person want to murder everyone around him?" congrats on being a mindless cog in a machine run by ivory tower elite liberal arts people i guess? at the end you'll be shoved into a van labeled 'glue factory' don't worry
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Joementum posted:I had Thai food for lunch. Take that, Tojo! thailand was a fascist ally of imperial japan?  you're going to end up in one of Eternal President Trump's camps acting like that icantfindaname fucked around with this message at 19:38 on Dec 7, 2015 |
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ahahahaha bush taking down the rest of the GOP establishment with him, leaving Cruz as the nominee, would be absolutely hilarious
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Adar posted:Given the staying power of the average GOP voter I fully expect this means either Rubio or Jeb actually win, but yeah, Trump is finally dead now. ??? bush's campaign has been a comical failure thus far, what makes you think this will be any different?
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Dapper_Swindler posted:do these people even know what Marxist means? and that trump was parodied long before his political maneuvers what they want is for the US to implement the Final Solution to the Muslim Question. only the saudis can stick around, at least until the oil's gone
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wilderthanmild posted:Local radio was trying to blame the liberals for Trump's comments somehow. my local radio guy, who is an orthodox rubio-bush style mainstreamer, wasn't doing damage control at all, he took the opportunity to go on a tirade about how the liberal PC media refuses to allow ethnic and racial profiling which is just good old common sense. he also made sure to point out that nothing Trump says can be used against the Republicans because he's not a real conservative because reasons, even though he still likes the idea of a wall and says he would vote for Trump if he were sure Trump would go through with it remember this is the mainstream guy. trump's positions really are almost 100% uncontroversial within the base. most of the criticism is over tone and optics icantfindaname fucked around with this message at 23:03 on Dec 8, 2015 |
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DemeaninDemon posted:Last couple pages have been amazing. yeah i've read like 4 articles over the past few days asking "is trump a fascist" and every single one has been too chickenshit to come out and say the words, settling instead on sinister allusions and implication
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Mulva posted:Were in a weird media environment where making a definitive statement is seen as being too biased and divisive. Hell Diane Rehm on NPR got pissed off at Rick Perlstein because he called out Grover Norquist for lying. that media environment has a name: neoliberal capitalism
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fade5 posted:Trump is here to stay, and it is terrifying. http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2015-12-09/bloomberg-politics-poll-trump-muslim-ban-proposal  quote:Bloomberg Politics Poll: Nearly Two-Thirds of Likely GOP Primary Voters Back Trump's Muslim Ban only 22% oppose 
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Mokelumne Trekka posted:So who thinks Trump is here to stay or will sink after voting begins? i don't see Rubio climbing, i think the likely winner here is Cruz. do you need an absolute majority of delegates at the convention to win or just a plurality? at this point i think Rubio's last best hope is for Trump and Cruz to split the anti-establishment vote and come out with a slim plurality
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computer parts posted:If you don't get a majority then you get a brokered convention. IMO Cruz wins in that case. Sure they hate him personally, but he's better than Trump and if Rubio and Bush end up with a combined 25% of the vote per current polling I don't see any other option. People saying Rubio is going to float up in the polls any day now are delusional icantfindaname fucked around with this message at 04:14 on Dec 10, 2015 |
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Mokelumne Trekka posted:I think this whole "anti-establishment, non-politician president" thing among Republicans is just a phase. I know people have been saying this since summer but there are early signs - look how far Carly Fiorina has fallen. She is not even at 3% anymore. She is among the ranks of Mike Huckabee and Rand Paul. So you're the guy from the Onion article, Got it
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Slaan posted:So if Trump doesn't win the primary somehow and runs an independent campaign, how many states would bar him from the ballot because of Sore Loser laws? Enough to matter? Well if that happened it would be a guaranteed win for the Democrats anyways, so it's sort of moot Raskolnikov38 posted:David Brooks is an idiot and everyone that wanted a Ferrari would buy a Ferrari if they didn't cost a shitload. This is applicable to voting which is free because....... no no the American voting public deep down sees the wisdom of us Serious People and will come around in the end, just you wait icantfindaname fucked around with this message at 04:45 on Dec 10, 2015 |
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nachos posted:It's amazing to watch pundits explain away Trump as someone who's figured out how to capture all those frustrated voters in the Republican Party. Without actually going the next step and analyzing what they are frustrated about. Obviously it's because they can't just call out an entire political base on tv as racists, but it's entertaining in a somewhat terrifying way to watch them dance around the real reason people like trump. it's not just the money-grubbing conviction-less commercial media, though, there's a very large part of the intellectual elite who are desperately wedded to the value pluralist truth is in the middle narrative, where the Republican's must have something worthwhile to say just because so many people believe in it Fried Chicken posted:I wouldn't say I'm any more optimistic than you are. What I'm saying is that the only way you get them "beaten, broken, and forced to accept their total defeat before tapering off close societal oversight over the next 3 generations" is by offering another way to sap away the organization's strength and let those committed to the current movement and the ideas and behaviors we find so repugnant be banished to the political wilderness, lacking the power to do anything, and fading away with time. I don't think the white working class is ever coming back to the left, at least not within any of our lifetimes. That's just the way it is unfortunately, the best thing you can do is depress turnout and try to weaken their political influence as much as possible. They're going to lash out a bunch as their political influence wanes, which is what you're seeing now with Il Duce The Donald icantfindaname fucked around with this message at 07:05 on Dec 10, 2015 |
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nah, as of TYOOL 2015 people have become so desensitized to neoliberal capitalism they're mostly indifferent to the Chinese. it takes a borderline fascist like Trump to even mention them and even then people seem mostly bemused. 1985-vintage japan bashing isn't coming back, also the chinese themselves aren't doing so hot and the doomsday, worst case, China rules the world scenario that might happen is they occupy some islands off the Philippines arabs are still the gold standard clash-of-civilizations boogeymen and will remain so pretty much indefinitely IMO, especially as the ME looks to remain a gaping, bleeding terrorism-spewing chest wound indefinitely icantfindaname fucked around with this message at 07:35 on Dec 10, 2015 |
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Trump is going to ascend to heaven to become the Moon God, and thus gain automatic mind control powers over the Muslim hordes
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zoux posted:I dunno why the temporary ascendance of Cruz is now a mortal lock for the nom, or are we always going to talk about how the second place guy is juuuust about to sweep in and end Trump? i imagine there are lots of delegates who will refuse to vote for Trump no matter how many rounds voting goes, who will support Cruz instead
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Luigi Thirty posted:http://www.rawstory.com/2015/12/texans-begin-nightly-smashing-windows-of-muslim-family-only-six-weeks-after-they-move-in/ This election has been fun, but I want off this train now 
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Joementum posted:Quote of the day, “He took his flag pin off. I’m a Marine and former deputy sheriff. He took that off, he was in the toilet to me. I would not only not piss on him if he was on fire — I’d throw gas on him.” ~ Frank Lanzillo, participant in a focus group of Trump supporters, on Barack Obama. it's cool that as a public figure you can openly fantasize about torturing and lynching a black man, who is also the goddamn president, in TYOOL 2015
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Eschers Basement posted:I really don't understand why people here are salivating over no one winning the nomination on the first ballot, I mean what could why the gently caress would they pick romney and not rubio?
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Captain_Maclaine posted:If you define "Spitting distance" as anything better than a Reagan-Mondale or Nixon-McGovern level electoral blowout then yes, the GOP could nominate a bag of cement and get 180 EVs, a blowout like that just isn't possible in 2016's electoral environment
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Logikv9 posted:Cruz's moderation is the worst thing he could've done. I look forward to Rubio 2016. this primary is syrian civil war levels of attrition and mutual destruction. this is amazing
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ComradeCosmobot posted:Eric Posner at Slate just put out his hot take on why Trump is right and the rise of ISIS means it's time to start curtailing free speech by treating people who access websites that support ISIS like child pornographers and sending them to prison. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eric_Posner quote:In June 2013, Posner and Jameel Jaffer, fellow at the Open Society Foundations, participated in the New York Times's Room for Debate series.[11] Posner responded to concerns about expanded National Security Agency (NSA) programs that vacuum information about the private lives of American citizens. Those who oppose the surveillance claim that the collection and storing of unlimited metadata is a highly invasive form of surveillance of citizens' communications. Posner claimed that Americans obtain the services they want by disclosing private information to strangers such as "the market services of doctors, insurance companies, Internet service providers, employers, therapists and the rest, or the nonmarket services of the government like welfare and security." Posner argued that, since 2001 there has not been an incident in which the United States government used information "obtained for security purposes with "war-on-terror-related surveillance" technologies to "target a political opponent, dissenter or critic."[11]  oh yeah, plus quote:As of 2014, he was the 4th most-cited legal scholar in the United States.[2] 
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Hollismason posted:You idiot poo poo heads so wait a minute, what bad is happening here? expired tax cuts are made "permanant"? they're already expired, what difference would that make?
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Joementum posted:Tax cuts and credits that were going to expire at the end of the year now have no expiration date. This benefits people who pay taxes who tend to be wealthy. In some cases it benefits things Democrats like, for instance tax credits for commuter transport and green energy. still seems irrelevant to me. if the Rs are going to use threats of shutdown every 6 months like clockwork they would just get the tax cuts extended when they were set to expire anyways. it's not like the Ds would have the congressional strength to block making them permanent in a year anyways
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Kro-Bar posted:Are most universities really this bad at food service? I went to school in Oklahoma and even our poo poo school made an effort to have legitimate international food in the food courts. my university fairly regularly served "pork lo mein" which in reality was spaghetti noodles with bits of ham in it
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Gail Wynand posted:When it comes to alcoholism, blind nationalism, and misogyny, they're definitely up there! japan's fascism is more institutionalized but also lazier and more lethargic. korea's is vibrant and popular, and less institutionalized only because there's less of a governmental institution to begin with outside of the Park family
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Joementum posted:Almost certainly written by MMT-advocate, frequent Naked Capitalism contributor, and Sanders staff Chief Economist Stephanie Kelton. Good
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BetterToRuleInHell posted:Ok, I guess I'm in the minority here but I don't get this -- why put a wet condiment on a regular sandwich? That makes no sense to me. Regular sliced bread is already soft, you're just making your sandwich soggy with it. mayonnaise is an integral part of white culture
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So wait has SA now turned into chicago-style austerians in favor of hard money and balanced budgets, just to spite Bernie? what?
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radical meme posted:Yeah, for young children, baseball is a horribly boring sport; no way around it. But, the reason I love baseball so much is because it's the nerdiest, most geeky sport in the world. Everything about baseball can be explained by math and physics. Look at the huge amount of stats coming out of baseball for enthusiasts to poor over and analyze. Even the trajectory of the ball coming off the bat is determined by the velocity of the ball and the speed and angle of the bat. It's just a huge 9 inning math and physics lesson on display every game. baseball even more than football is the bastion of Real America of the old type, a tobacco-chewing friend of the family-hating sexist old white southern man's dream come true
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GalacticAcid posted:I've heard this sentiment before but have to conclude it's bullshit. Baseball's biggest concentrations of fans are in places like New York, Boston, Chicago, Pittsburgh, LA ~ it's ridiculous to cast it as a down home Good Old Southron Boy pursuit. You're right that 'Southern' wasn't the best choice of words, if anything I associate baseball more with classic/pre-1970s major cities in the North. The thing is though, those cities were run white people who were (and still are lots of the time!) incredibly racist. Martin Luther King called Chicago worse than Mississippi after all. Baseball peaked during and was defined by an era of American society which agreed to assimilate 'white ethnics' but still considered blacks, mexicans, asians and women beyond the pale , and that attitude and legacy has stuck with it. So maybe 'old white southern man' isn't accurate, but 'old white pre-70s northern city dweller' is
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