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Here is an example of what I mean, from a few seasons ago http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-highlights/0ap2000000231285/Dustin-Keller-injures-knee quote:After signing with the Miami Dolphins, Keller suffered a career-ending knee injury in the preseason, tearing his ACL, MCL and PCL, while also dislocating his knee. Plays like this (a career ending hit it turns out) have no business in football. How could they ban these type of hits while still allowing players on the ground to ankle tackle etc? I'm sure they could figure it out but DBs being cowards going at players legs has to stop. Should be huge fines and suspensions for it too. Thoughts?
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African AIDS cum posted:Here is an example of what I mean, from a few seasons ago
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Dec 2, 2015 21:46
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something something skirt something something trenches gridiron something something smashmouth
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Crazy Ted posted:I've never understood why rugby rules can't be implemented - you hit between the shoulders and the thighs or else it's a penalty. Of course you can make exceptions for players lowering their heads or defenders who are blocked into a low hit, but it shouldn't be that difficult all the same. Exactly, and so many times these "hits" a player just bounces off and runs for more yards. I get mad as gently caress when one of my teams players does it.
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Dec 2, 2015 21:50
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the nfl should create super light weight super strong nanotube knee braces that all players have to wear problem solved also put that squishy memory foam on the outside of the helmets no more concussions we can put a robot on mars but we can't protect ACLs? come on america, you used to be great!
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NC-17 posted:the nfl should create super light weight super strong nanotube knee braces that all players have to wear Gronk gets hit like this a few times a game. If corners had to make actual real tackles on him and players his size the 5'9 cover corner everyone hates would become extinct. Just imagine.
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Watch this and tell me it wouldn't own if all NFL players tackled with this form: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1A06stpydY African AIDS cum posted:Gronk gets hit like this a few times a game. If corners had to make actual real tackles on him and players his size the 5'9 cover corner everyone hates would become extinct. Just imagine.
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those guys are running at like 1/10th the speed, i mean did you see how slow they looked in that video?
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Crazy Ted posted:Watch this and tell me it wouldn't own if all NFL players tackled with this form: Video proof US Muslims cheered 9/11 = Video proof Deion Sanders tried to tackle someone
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Intruder needs to ban AAC posts
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Anaranjado posted:Intruder needs to ban AAC posts What is your problem?
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Please don't If you don't like AAC posts/threads then no one is forcing you to click on this one Thanks
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I'm down with this. Below the neck and above the knees is a huge strike zone, people acting like it's hard to NOT target smaller moving targets like a dude's kneecaps instead of their entire goddamn torso are huge assholes.
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Plus below-neck/above-knee tackles with proper form are the most brutal looking tackles anyway, despite being the safest. Better than some dude getting grabbed by the ankle and just rolling away.
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Is AAC Tom Brady?quote:Four days after tight end Rob Gronkowski was carted off the field with a bone bruise/sprain of his right knee, New England Patriots quarterback Tom Brady hopes the NFL will consider rule changes for low hits on pass-catchers.
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Hijo Del Helmsley posted:Plus below-neck/above-knee tackles with proper form are the most brutal looking tackles anyway, despite being the safest. Better than some dude getting grabbed by the ankle and just rolling away. Also guys getting away with dragon screw leg whips right out of New Japan Pro Wrestling is bullshit. I'm looking at you Vontaze Burfict you shitnuts.
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sean10mm posted:I'm down with this. Below the neck and above the knees is a huge strike zone, people acting like it's hard to NOT target smaller moving targets like a dude's kneecaps instead of their entire goddamn torso are huge assholes.
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Only if we can ban offensive players lowering their head or trying to duck away from contact.
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Athanatos posted:Only if we can ban offensive players lowering their head or trying to duck away from contact. What do they do about this in rugby or does it not exist cause no helmets?
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African AIDS cum posted:What do they do about this in rugby or does it not exist cause no helmets? Yes. Smashing your head into someone else when neither are wearing helmets hurts like hell so they don't do it.
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In all seriousness people are going low because when they aim for the torso and the receiver curls up their upper body in preparation for the hit the defender often ends up hitting their helmet and gets flagged. I don't think hitting the torso accurately at high speed - without coming into contact with the helmet - is as easy as you all make it sound.
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NC-17 posted:In all seriousness people are going low because when they aim for the torso and the receiver curls up their upper body in preparation for the hit the defender often ends up hitting their helmet and gets flagged. Aim for the hips, the least mobile part of a runner's body? No chance of hitting the helmet unless the runner really tries to get hit there, and a runner jumping in the air is probably less likely to get a knee blown out since the leg will move with it / isn't pinned to the ground. Harder to tackle a guy with strength and talent? Sure, again, least mobile part of their body so it's hard to topple them there, but since when does the NFL care about limiting offensive performances?
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Yes I was always taught to aim for the belt buckle when tackling. Hard to miss them there. Honestly the standard of tackling in the NFL is abysmal, probably because speed is the most important attribute and a great tackler who runs a 5.1 will never make it wheras Deion is a hall of famer
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We can't afford to tie defense's hands any more than they're tied already.
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What if they actually tied the defense's hands?
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Why don't the offensive guys slide before contact?
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Frackie Robinson posted:We can't afford to tie defense's hands any more than they're tied already. I think the root of the problem is football players are taught to deliver big hits to jar the ball loose, rather than to go for the sure tackle. If this weren't the case there would be no need to legislate hits and tackles.
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African AIDS cum posted:Exactly, and so many times these "hits" a player just bounces off and runs for more yards. I get mad as gently caress when one of my teams players does it. earl thomas 
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I agree, OP. Also, I think you shouldn't be allowed to launch yourself like a meatmissile into defenseless players. Thank you for reading.
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If we're going to talk about low hits that should be banned, the first thing to go should be the chop block, an extremely dangerous double-team block in which (usually) a defender is first engaged above the waist and then blocked below the waist when he can't see the low block coming or prepare for it. At every other level of play this is illegal at any time because it's a knee-destroyer, but in the NFL:quote:Rule 12-2-3 Of course, it's not skill position players who are on the receiving end of these blocks, so they don't get much attention.
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The part of rugby tackling law that you want to implement isn't bans on high hits (there aren't any bans on low tackles what are you talking about) but bans on shoulder charges. Mandate that players use their arms to tackle and the problem of guys closing their eyes, throwing a shoulder, and hoping for the best goes away. Plus it makes for more effective tackling.
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is there a weight differential in rugby like in football? some of these rbs have like fifty pounds on dbs. it hurts less to go really low on guys like that, which is part of the reason i assume they do it.Elephanthead posted:Why don't the offensive guys slide before contact? this is really the only surefire safe way to play the game.
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I think it's perfectly ok to do the things you don't like if it happens to a player on a team I don't like, OP
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don't go too low, you might hurt somebody don't go too high, you might hurt somebody great, now everyone is safe  just hit him in the belt buckle
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SlipUp posted:don't go too low, you might hurt somebody Not really the same scenario here but funny you posted a pic of the NFL player most famous for his inability to evade a tackle and get yards after contact
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the picture is meant to illustrate a common habit for ballcarriers, there's a bunch of them every game. it's not like the gronk situation, true, but gronk could certainly do some damage to a 160-180 pound DB running in the open field at full speed. aiming for the center of mass would only make it worse. it's already ludicrous enough that an offensive player lowering his helmet into a defender is a 15 yard personal foul on the defender in the name of safety. (except for a small portion of the field technically but it's never been enforced.)
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Yeah there is some tweaking to do for sure but ideally the 160-180 lb DBs would be phased out of the league after this rule change because nobody likes to watch them anyway IMO and guys like Brandon Browner will populate defenses league wide. More man coverage and going deep less soft dinky underneath stuff. But all as a side effect of the safety rules.
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idk if you're going deep you're gonna need speed and if the offense has speed the defense is going to need speed. unless maybe we can allow contact after 5 yards.
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SlipUp posted:idk if you're going deep you're gonna need speed and if the offense has speed the defense is going to need speed. unless maybe we can allow contact after 5 yards. Bump and run and keep inside leverage with safety help over top. For better games they should get rid of illegal contact penalties imo the league was better when it wasnt as extremely QB dependent as it is now but the main thing is poor tackling is bad and unskilled and dangerous and makes the sport look amateur
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