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I mean that case would probably be 2nd degree in the US; neither premeditated nor committed in the grips of an intense emotional state (said emotional state downgrade it to manslaughter). I'm not familiar at all with Israeli law, but if it doesn't differentiate based on the same criteria, that sounds like it makes sense.
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# ¿ Mar 31, 2016 17:41 |
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# ¿ May 17, 2024 02:03 |
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If I was going to lean my forehead against a wall to, um, pray I guess? I would want a large, soft, furry hat too.
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# ¿ Apr 4, 2016 15:08 |
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It's in the interest of both Zionists and anti-Semites to confuse the issue. Zionists can use it to dismiss attacks on Zionism or Israel as racism, and anti-Semites can use BDS and Anti-Zionism as fig leaves for prejudice against jews as a whole.
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# ¿ Apr 13, 2016 16:34 |
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Svartvit posted:As someone who often complains about homophobia in Muslim countries, I have yet to be called Islamophobe by anyone. When does this happen? It happens to new athiests like Dick Dawkins who are in fact Islamaphobic, but like to pretend that accusations of Islamaphobia are just PC culture gone mad.
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# ¿ Jun 6, 2016 14:49 |
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team overhead smash posted:Palestine has a right to resistance. Israel does not have a right to ethnically cleanse or annex another country as some of those at this funeral were calling for. Killing kids isn't valid resistance; the girl didn't have any choice in where she lived or who her parents were.
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# ¿ Jul 1, 2016 19:10 |
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team overhead smash posted:Did you read the very next paragraph I wrote? Sorry, it wasn't super clear until I reread what you meant.
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# ¿ Jul 1, 2016 19:29 |
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team overhead smash posted:I for one am glad that Hamas has forsaken the use of Voltorbs and Electrodes Isreal will continue to consider them a threat until they take Geodudes out of their childrens' hands.
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# ¿ Jul 13, 2016 18:02 |
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So are most Israelis cool with having something like 10% of the population willfully having no skills or employment and living primarily on welfare? I'm surprised there isn't widespread anger about that.
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# ¿ Jul 20, 2016 17:01 |
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Dead Reckoning posted:Ah, South Africa, that famous middle eastern country known for its primary export of being analogous to whatever is convenient. Hmm, it's almost as if there is something else the Israeli and South African apartheid governments have in commons. Something to do with their relationship with the USA and Western Europe.
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# ¿ Oct 1, 2016 02:35 |
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Dead Reckoning posted:What, you think being reliant on the U.S. is the secret sauce to a successful transition to multi-party democracy... and we just forgot to tell the Iraqis and Iranians? Iran and Iraq were the results of installed colonialist governments failing, while South Africa was a foreign brokered settled peace between a developed nation and its own oppressed people, instigated by their economic ties to the country. Israel is closer to the latter than former.
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# ¿ Oct 1, 2016 03:35 |
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Dead Reckoning posted:Uh, people in this thread have repeatedly assured me that Israel is a foreign, colonialist government. Cool deflection
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# ¿ Oct 1, 2016 03:40 |
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Ultramega posted:man, shut the gently caress up. She's the best poster in the thread.
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# ¿ Dec 21, 2016 16:38 |
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"What if personal attacks weren't allowed??" he said, while accusing others of being terrorist sympathizers and anti-Semites.
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# ¿ Jan 22, 2017 03:13 |
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Barry Convex posted:I really don't agree that putting the Star of David at the center of a rainbow flag can be plausibly argued to have nothing to do with the state of Israel, particularly after seeing extremely similar flags used by the pro-Israel contingent at NYC Pride yesterday (those had rainbows at top and bottom, replacing the blue stripes on the actual Israeli flag). It's really not their fault that Israel decided to use one of the two most major symbols of their religion on their national flag.
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# ¿ Jun 26, 2017 14:48 |
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Barry Convex posted:From my own experiences with the Jewish community, I highly doubt that anyone who would wave a Star of David flag in 2017 would see it as a wholly apolitical expression of Jewish identity that has nothing to do with the state of Israel. I don't agree that it deserves the benefit of the doubt. And Muslims that wave a star and crescent flag must support Turkey and Erdogan???
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# ¿ Jun 26, 2017 15:18 |
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I'm not clear on why were even pretending that an Ethno-supremacist state has any sort of imaginary "right to exist".
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# ¿ Jul 23, 2017 23:24 |
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hakimashou posted:There are many 'ethno states' such as China rofl look at this loving moron
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# ¿ Jul 25, 2017 03:51 |
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hakimashou posted:If well-intentioned people want to make a difference then they are barking up the wrong tree with Israel. There are millions of lives to be saved from starvation, malnutrition and preventable disease all over the developing world. All those things are also way more important than posting like a dipshit in this thread. Hop to it!
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# ¿ Jul 25, 2017 04:13 |
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Lady Morgaga posted:Maybe. Although antisemites tend to jump on "opposing the Occupation and Israel's ongoing policy of Apartheid " bandwagon very readily. And when you stand shoulder to shoulder with them it will rub off on to you. What is this moronic argument Jesus Christ
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# ¿ Aug 9, 2017 00:38 |
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Lady Morgaga posted:Antisemitism gets no days and actually supported. So consider it a kind of progress. Why don't you post some and we can test this theory
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# ¿ Aug 13, 2017 22:16 |
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Kim Jong Il posted:That has absolutely nothing to do in any capacity with Israel.
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# ¿ Sep 6, 2017 01:28 |
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qkkl posted:Are there other historical examples where a nation conquered some land but didn't immediately annex it? Curious to know how those scenarios played out. Depends on what exactly you mean by 'annex'. Puppet and client states have existed for a long time thought.
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# ¿ Sep 11, 2017 01:21 |
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Snatch Duster posted:
He means immigrants end up supporting the economy as the population of Hungary ages and declines, just like they do in most developed countries. See Japan as to why this is necessary. Why, what did you think he meant???
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# ¿ Sep 24, 2017 15:07 |
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hakimashou posted:Does HAMAS give people due process before executing them? Rofl so you're a troll, right?
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# ¿ Oct 11, 2017 15:00 |
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lollontee posted:What? Boycotts, sanctions and divestments do not force people from their homes. He’s claiming that forcing settlers out of the West Bank is ethnic cleansing
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# ¿ Oct 22, 2017 17:31 |
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Kim Jong Il posted:It's reactionary because it's a right-wing, ethnonationalist movement devoted to endless, perpetual war regardless of its "progressive" trappings. But enough about zionists
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# ¿ Nov 7, 2017 05:11 |
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No two state solution is viable unless Israel not only cedes half of Jerusalem and all settlements in the West Bank, but parts of Israel proper as well. You clearly oppose all of those things as genocide, so your ostensible solution is hollow.
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# ¿ Nov 13, 2017 01:55 |
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Absurd Alhazred posted:Come again? Gaza and the West Bank need to have territorial contiguity, or else their sovereignty is threatened.
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# ¿ Nov 13, 2017 01:59 |
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Absurd Alhazred posted:Palestine would not be the only non-contiguous sovereign country, anyway. Quite a few countries have exclaves, Kaliningrad being the most famous one. With a third of their population? I'm sure you know this argument is disingenuous. Disinterested posted:A legally legitimate settlement would, but that's not really in the works. Sovereignty is an issue to discuss though since Israel essentially demands any potential Palestinian state not have any, but this is a stupid angle to come at this point by. My point is more that there is no reasonable agreement that would result in a viable Palestinian state at this point.
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# ¿ Nov 13, 2017 02:39 |
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Absurd Alhazred posted:No, what's disingenuous is pretending that territorial contiguity between the West Bank and Gaza is part of the obvious two-state solution when you have basically introduced this requirement yourself. I absolutely am not the originator of that requirement. It has been a major component of Palestinian demands for decades. It's frankly bizarre that you are arguing otherwise. e: Anyway, even ignoring Gaza, Israel has zero interest in withdrawing from the West Bank or forfeiting what amounts to total control of Jerusalem. fool of sound fucked around with this message at 03:05 on Nov 13, 2017 |
# ¿ Nov 13, 2017 02:53 |
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Absurd Alhazred posted:It's not talking about taking up Israeli territory, it's talking about free passage between the separate territories. They reject Israel wanting the ability to limit movement between the two region, treating them as separate entities. Oh, I was misinterpreting, sorry.
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# ¿ Nov 13, 2017 03:12 |
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Kim Jong Il posted:You need to come to terms with the fact that you virulently oppose peace. You’ve literally said in this thread that a Palestinian right of return and expulsion of Israeli settlers in the West Bank is genocidal. I’m phone posting now, but if you deny this I’ll go pull quotes later. A peace deal that is effectively a legitimized occupation will not in fact result in peace.
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# ¿ Nov 17, 2017 13:16 |
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Pantsbird posted:I've heard this one but I don't understand it. Unfortunately, in this idiot anime metaphor, the student council allowed the 40k club to take over part of the room occupied by the book club. Unfortunately, the 40k club has continually taken space from the book club until they have about one old beanbag, and on the other side of the room, half a bookshelf. I do like that you chose the fascist parody tabletop game to represent Israel tho.
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# ¿ Dec 5, 2017 23:46 |
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Nameless_Steve posted:You cannot expect a newly liberated people, still recovering from a major genocide, to suicidally submit itself to a potential new one. So you’re talking about Palestinians in this scenario right? E: more seriously this is fundamentally identical to arguments supporting South African apartheid fool of sound fucked around with this message at 18:15 on Dec 15, 2017 |
# ¿ Dec 15, 2017 18:10 |
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In a vacuum it’s possible, in that if you had a state of sufficient size, in uncontested land, that consisted ethnically and religiously only of Jewish people, you could have an ethical Jewish safe haven state. Once you introduce complications, that kinda goes out the window. You can’t really have a multiethnic/multireligious state that explicitly favors a particular ethnicity and religion without implicitly endorsing the violent sustaining of that privilege. If your definition of Zionism doesn’t require a specifically Jewish state it’s also possible, I suppose.
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# ¿ Feb 7, 2018 00:37 |
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Absurd Alhazred posted:Afraid you're again mistaken. We have a really good emote for this!
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# ¿ Mar 10, 2018 06:11 |
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Hitlers Gay Secret posted:Payot? Those are straps from the construction hat Spidey avatar that someone photo-chopped a fedora over. pffhahahahaha
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# ¿ Apr 1, 2018 03:43 |
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emanresu tnuocca posted:What's the significance of the manspider? Hard hat Spider-Man is a meme ever since some crazy person bought like 100 posters that image as an avatar
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# ¿ Apr 1, 2018 17:31 |
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Kim Jong Il posted:BDS is collective punishment, a class of conduct that cannot be justified by any reason. And BDS is not focused on the occupation. As long as the goal of BDS is the right of return, it's advocating a profound, historic level of violence. BDS demands "resistance" (aka permanent war) until every single demand is met, compromise is collaboration. Collective punishment: refusing to buy Israeli products, not collective punishment: militarily blockading an entire densely populated city. I’m glad the literal stupidest argument in the thread is back.
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# ¿ Apr 13, 2018 16:25 |
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# ¿ May 17, 2024 02:03 |
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Kim Jong Il posted:When did I say that wasn't collective punishment? Uh, so then are you arguing that the Israeli occupation is unjust, but nevertheless Israel should suffer no consequences for it? What the gently caress are you even arguing?
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# ¿ Apr 13, 2018 22:31 |