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Count Uvula
Dec 20, 2011

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MannersPlease posted:

soo just a random buff for player or reward? no loving vulnerability curse?

It's in addition to the effects already available.

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Count Uvula
Dec 20, 2011

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Kild posted:

That's contrary to the thing they wrote earlier about lab.

Oh? I missed that. Though if it's what MannersPlease just quoted then it sounds like darkshrines are easy to reach but a legit gamble instead of the poo poo no one but people mapping the lab touch unless it's one of the few good results.

Count Uvula
Dec 20, 2011

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Mercrom posted:

Either GGG suck at explaining these changes or they suck at math. There is no way shock or chill will be more viable against bosses with this change.

They say it makes it more viable against bosses to use things that apply to shocked or chilled enemies, not that shock or chill themselves are useful against bosses. On that note if they remove chill immunity from endgame bosses then with this change Frostbreath builds are most likely Shaper viable :confuoot:

Count Uvula
Dec 20, 2011

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Raider can do it well with any weapon, most other classes have to use Oro's Whatever (2 handed sword) to generate the frenzy charges. Assassins can use Terminus Est but I think that sword got nerfed to hell at some point so they'd probably still use Oro's.

e: Oh no Terminus Est got buffed to hell at the start of Legacy, nvm.

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