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bigmcgaffney posted:He checked down all game and if no one is open, a checkdown is a smart play. teddy does have accuracy issues but the receivers have a hard time getting open, especially when the line can't buy teddy more than 1.5 seconds or lets free rushers through constantly
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Kawalimus posted:The team birds aren't real birds. I like the Cardinals because like 15 years ago they had this SNF game and like nobody was there and I felt bad for them so I rooted for them. Now they're doing better. But it's not because of the birds. Though weirdly all the bird teams I"m pretty cool with. But it's not just because they're birds those birds aren't real. And random people always want to tell me about eagles when I'm looking for warblers. are you autistic
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well I guess the Seahawks are gonna be a WC now since Arizona isn't gonna drop the next two in a row
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Intruder posted:If Bridgewater was on the Texans we'd be running away with the division Hoyer...has actually been solid this year? I mean, I have no faith in him long term, but he's been better than I ever expected him to be, and certainly after two weeks into the year where he looked absolutely horrible. 18 TDs and 6 INTs Intruder, get real son. Edit: After one game, not two. I try to forget the early part of the season, you see.
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Dadjacket posted:well I guess the Seahawks are gonna be a WC now since Arizona isn't gonna drop the next two in a row Well the next two games are at Philly and against Green Bay... it's not out of the realm of possibility.
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Kirios posted:Hoyer...has actually been solid this year? I mean, I have no faith in him long term, but he's been better than I ever expected him to be, and certainly after two weeks into the year where he looked absolutely horrible. "this teddy bridgewater kid loving sucks, all he does is check down and can't make deep throws now this brian hoyer on the other hand"
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Brian Hoyer has been significantly better than Teddy Bridgewater this year, why is this hard to understand?
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Yeah I'll stick with Teddy over Hoyer any day. Teddy is young and has time to develop. Hoyer is trash.
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Brannock posted:Well the next two games are at Philly and against Green Bay... it's not out of the realm of possibility. Seattle would also have to beat Arizona in Arizona and I doubt you're going to find many Hawks goons here who are optimistic about that.
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Long term yes, Bridgewater probably has more potential than Hoyer. However, he's rocking a career 84.2 QB rating and 22 TDs to 20 INTs thus far into his career. That's underwhelming, and probably not what the Vikings expected when they drafted him. David Carr has notably outplayed him, for example.
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Kirios posted:Brian Hoyer has been significantly better than Teddy Bridgewater this year, why is this hard to understand? It's not correct, mainly.
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It was pretty cool how in the Bills game Texans receivers scorched their coverage four separate times that would have gone for easy TDs and each time Hoyer hideously underthrew the ball or threw to the wrong side so they were all incompletions Including two times on the Texans final drive of realistically having a shot when they were down by six and instead went four and out
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Vikes better just start looking to the draft i guess. teddy just turned 23 in november, you know what they say, if you dont have it by your 23rd, you never will.
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Kirios posted:Long term yes, Bridgewater probably has more potential than Hoyer. However, he's rocking a career 84.2 QB rating and 22 TDs to 20 INTs thus far into his career. That's underwhelming, and probably not what the Vikings expected when they drafted him. David Carr has notably outplayed him, for example. Do you know anything about Bridgewater besides his stat sheet and the last play of this game?
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It's possible my opinion of Teddy is high because I watched Ponder for a few years. Dark days
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you went from hoyer to carr. i will say carr is much better than bridgewater, but he has a pretty good supporting cast on offense as well. AP is good for the team but he really just hamstrings teddy by not wanting to run out of the shotgun, which teddy plays very well out of.
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Kirios posted:Long term yes, Bridgewater probably has more potential than Hoyer. However, he's rocking a career 84.2 QB rating and 22 TDs to 20 INTs thus far into his career. That's underwhelming, and probably not what the Vikings expected when they drafted him. David Carr has notably outplayed him, for example. Do you even watch Vikings games, know his line situation and noted receiver corps?
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Clumsy Robot posted:Vikes better just start looking to the draft i guess. teddy just turned 23 in november, you know what they say, if you dont have it by your 23rd, you never will. Tom Brady turned 24 the year he won the Super Bowl. Bridgewater has one more year else he needs to just find another career imo.
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WHOOPS posted:Do you know anything about Bridgewater besides his stat sheet and the last play of this game? He wears gloves which is probably why he fumbles it too much. (This is a joke.)
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Or the fact that Adrian Peterson doesn't compliment his play in the way you expect an elite RB to do so. Like their are legit flaws in Teddy's game and a ceiling to what you can expect. He also deserves criticism for that last play and poor performances at different times this year. But he's also showed thro,use you want to see and in a different situation this year, it's not hard to imagine a better stat line out of him.
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Dubious posted:Do you even watch Vikings games, know his line situation and noted receiver corps? Diggs, Wallace and Rudolph aren't that bad. Mike Wallace is a disappointment of course, but it's better than, say, whatever the gently caress the Eagles are throwing out there.
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WHOOPS posted:Or the fact that Adrian Peterson doesn't compliment his play in the way you expect an elite RB to do so. He's a grown rear end man he shouldn't need compliments 
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Diggs had no chance in this game, I don't really blame teddy for checking down when your WRs are locked down all the time
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Bridgewater is still young and has potential to improve, especially if his offensive line gets better. I think Hoyer...has shown about as much as he's going to show. I mean, the stats might be similar this year, but are people really talking themselves into Hoyer as a long term solution in Houston?
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Diggs is great, Wallace is bad, and while Rudolph played well tonight, usually has stone hands :/ I don't get the Wallace thing either, Teddys worst throws are deep verticals, which is about all Wallace is good for.
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Tato posted:Bridgewater is still young and has potential to improve, especially if his offensive line gets better. I think Hoyer...has shown about as much as he's going to show. I mean, the stats might be similar this year, but are people really talking themselves into Hoyer as a long term solution in Houston? lol goodness no
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Sheesh people I said Hoyer's better this year but I have no faith in him long term. Bring on Connor Cook as far as I'm concerned.
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Kirios posted:Sheesh people I said Hoyer's better this year but I have no faith in him long term. Cool, I was hoping the Stockholm Syndrome wasn't that severe for something so crazy. Bridgewater is bad when under pressure, but it would be hard not to be when you can't trust your offensive line to give you more than 2 seconds to find a receiver even with a four man rush.
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Rudolph was stuck staying in as an extra blocks for most of the season but they've finally let him get out in routes again because the rest of the WR were struggling.
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Tato posted:Cool, I was hoping the Stockholm Syndrome wasn't that severe for something so crazy. Bridgewater is bad when under pressure, but it would be hard not to be when you can't trust your offensive line to give you more than 2 seconds to find a receiver even with a four man rush. Under pressure Bridgewater has avoided far more INTs and sacks than most QBs his age. You really don't watch many of his games. His statline is trash, but it's for a good reason. He isn't even close to a Ponder.
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I thought stat wise Bridgewater was one of the best QBs under pressure last season. Hes definitely getting pressured alot more this season, and though he has some boneheaded plays like the last one tonight, overall he makes pretty smart decisions. Edit: you could make a drinking game out of the number of times commentators mention his "poise" every game
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TBH bridgewater is a bad fit for a Norv Turner offense and would be way better in a conventional WCO, and neither the offense or the WRs fit him so the best he can do is manage the game, limit turnovers, and spread the ball to as many receivers as possible (11 players with a reception tonight) Bridgewater should have thrown the ball away on that last play but it's a playcall set up for disaster, that should have been a FG try regardless of Walsh's stats, you play into a defensive scheme that knows all they have to do is prevent a touchdown and the game is probably over, and that's exactly what happened. The ideal fit for Bridgewater might be Kansas City, IMO, but Alex Smith plays just efficiently enough there that they probably will continue to stick with him Wallace would probably be the greatest arena football player of all time
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I guess I'm just just way too homer about Bridgewater because hes far and away the best Vikings QB in nearly a decade, outside of 2009 Favre.
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Quest For Glory II posted:a bad fit for a Norv Turner offense much like.....everyone else
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