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Benne: Sep 2, 2011; STOP DOING HEROIN

Yeah, I wouldn't rate a Heisman winner as "dogshit in college." What the hell did Hack ever accomplish, other than being tall?

# ? Sep 2, 2016 19:47

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# ? Apr 28, 2024 02:23

Metapod: Mar 18, 2012

You asked the last most predictable qb bust no other qualifiers :colbert:

# ? Sep 2, 2016 19:49

Grittybeard: Mar 29, 2010; Bad, very bad!

Metapod posted:

You asked the last most predictable qb bust no other qualifiers

Still don't think that's true, or at least the fashion in which he busted. Sure we knew he liked to party. We had no idea what a complete and utter addict he is.

# ? Sep 2, 2016 19:52

Intruder: Mar 5, 2003

Jake Locker

Except he was also a top 10 pick :lol:

# ? Sep 2, 2016 19:55

CharlestheHammer: Jun 26, 2011; YOU SAY MY POSTS ARE THE RAVINGS OF THE DUMBEST PERSON ON GOD'S GREEN EARTH BUT YOU YOURSELF ARE READING THEM. CURIOUS!

Benne posted:

Yeah, I wouldn't rate a Heisman winner as "dogshit in college." What the hell did Hack ever accomplish, other than being tall?

He survived being murdered a lot.

That has to count for something.

# ? Sep 2, 2016 19:58

Probably Magic: Oct 9, 2012; Looking cute, feeling cute.

Intruder posted:

Jake Locker

Except he was also a top 10 pick

He was a mediocre to bad starter who then died. I mean, for that draft position it's bad, but I'm not sure it's Hack bad. Maybe it is and I'm just biased.

# ? Sep 2, 2016 20:09

sean10mm: Jun 29, 2005; It's a Mad, Mad, Mad, MAD-2R World

Locker is a good parallel except Hack seems even worse. Put another way, a career 79.0 passer rating looks wildly optimistic for Hack right now, and that's where Locker ended up.

Both guys had eerily similar (bad) college stats:

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Passing
Year	School		Conf	Class	Pos	G	Cmp	Att	Pct	Yds	Y/A	AY/A	TD	Int	Rate
2013	Penn State	Big Ten	FR	QB	12	231	392	58.9	2955	7.5	7.4	20	10	134.0
*2014	Penn State	Big Ten	SO	QB	13	270	484	55.8	2977	6.2	5.3	12	15	109.4
*2015	Penn State	Big Ten	JR	QB	13	192	359	53.5	2525	7.0	7.2	16	6	123.9
Career	Penn State					693	1235	56.1	8457	6.8	6.5	48	31	121.4

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Passing
Year	School		Conf	Class	Pos	G	Cmp	Att	Pct	Yds	Y/A	AY/A	TD	Int	Rate
2007	Washington	Pac-10	FR	QB	12	155	328	47.3	2062	6.3	5.1	14	15	105.0
2008	Washington	Pac-10	SO	QB	4	50	93	53.8	512	5.5	5.7	1	0	103.6
2009	Washington	Pac-10	JR	QB	12	230	394	58.4	2800	7.1	6.9	21	11	130.1
*2010	Washington	Pac-10	SR	QB	12	184	332	55.4	2265	6.8	6.6	17	9	124.2
Career	Washington					619	1147	54.0	7639	6.7	6.2	53	35	119.1

Low completion % + low Y/A = garbage generally.

e: College rating is totally different from NFL passer rating by the way.

# ? Sep 2, 2016 20:18

got any sevens: Feb 9, 2013; by Cyrano4747

Cruel and Unusual posted:

At least Manziel had success in college.

And got drafted in the first.

# ? Sep 2, 2016 20:21

Roasted Donut: Aug 24, 2007; NWA WHITE POWERRR!!!!

i was first on board the hackenberg sucks bandwagon and it gets funnier each time i'm proven right, especially now that he isn't actively loving over my favorite team

# ? Sep 2, 2016 20:26

Mel Mudkiper: Jan 19, 2012; At this point, Mudman abruptly ends the conversation. He usually insists on the last word.

TFF: Preseason doesn't matter

*QB has one bad preseason game*

TFF: DRAFT BUST!!!

# ? Sep 2, 2016 20:27

Intruder: Mar 5, 2003

Mel Mudkiper posted:

TFF: Preseason doesn't matter

*QB has one bad preseason game*

TFF: DRAFT BUST!!!

This isn't the Goff thread though :v:

# ? Sep 2, 2016 20:28

sean10mm: Jun 29, 2005; It's a Mad, Mad, Mad, MAD-2R World

Mel Mudkiper posted:

TFF: Preseason doesn't matter

*QB has one bad preseason game*

TFF: DRAFT BUST!!!

His entire preseason has been garbage and his college career was trash too. It's not just one thing, even though 1.7 YPA is almost impossibly awful.

# ? Sep 2, 2016 20:29

Alaois: Feb 7, 2012

# ? Sep 2, 2016 20:29

Mel Mudkiper: Jan 19, 2012; At this point, Mudman abruptly ends the conversation. He usually insists on the last word.

sean10mm posted:

His entire preseason has been garbage and his college career was trash too. It's not just one thing, even though 1.7 YPA is almost impossibly awful.

hey everybody has a bad game let him out there under the big lights when it counts

# ? Sep 2, 2016 20:31

sean10mm: Jun 29, 2005; It's a Mad, Mad, Mad, MAD-2R World

Mel Mudkiper posted:

hey everybody has a bad game let him out there under the big lights when it counts

I want to see this too, because I want to see if there is a circle of QB hell below "butt fumble." :butt:

# ? Sep 2, 2016 20:38

Mel Mudkiper: Jan 19, 2012; At this point, Mudman abruptly ends the conversation. He usually insists on the last word.

sean10mm posted:

I want to see this too, because I want to see if there is a circle of QB hell below "butt fumble."

Someone save this quote for when Pats fans are begging for Hack on their team

# ? Sep 2, 2016 20:42

seiferguy: Jun 9, 2005; FLAWED
INTUITION; Toilet Rascal

I was on the Jake Locker hype train despite watching all 4 years of him at UW. Then again, I always want my local talent to succeed. I saw him as a 2nd-3rd round guy that maybe the Seahawks could grab. Instead, he got grabbed, and Andy Dalton & Colin Kaepernick went in the 2nd round.

Alaois posted:

That play isn't really Hack's fault. Left guard missed his mark, RB did too, and the DE made a fantastic play too.

# ? Sep 2, 2016 20:44

sean10mm: Jun 29, 2005; It's a Mad, Mad, Mad, MAD-2R World

Mel Mudkiper posted:

Someone save this quote for when Pats fans are begging for Hack on their team

Apr�s Brady le d�luge is kind of a given.

I for one am hoping that it's at least a spectacular catastrophe.

# ? Sep 2, 2016 20:44

Komet: Apr 4, 2003

Gentle reminder that Bill O'Brien was a loving wizard.

# ? Sep 2, 2016 20:45

Mel Mudkiper: Jan 19, 2012; At this point, Mudman abruptly ends the conversation. He usually insists on the last word.

seiferguy posted:

That play isn't really Hack's fault. Left guard missed his mark, RB did too, and the DE made a fantastic play too.

And Hack's footwork still reduced a 10 yard sack to a 5 yarder

Great composure under pressure

# ? Sep 2, 2016 20:45

Mel Mudkiper: Jan 19, 2012; At this point, Mudman abruptly ends the conversation. He usually insists on the last word.

Komet posted:

Gentle reminder that Bill O'Brien was a loving wizard.

Bill O'Brien took all the chaos and failings of the post-Paterno Lions and purged them from the team and put them all into Sam Ficken

# ? Sep 2, 2016 20:46

Intruder: Mar 5, 2003

It's funny how Mel switched team allegiance over a QB who was a million times better than the one he's currently defending

# ? Sep 2, 2016 20:48

GOOD TIMES ON METH: Mar 17, 2006; Fun Shoe

Yeah I would take Tebow over Hackenberg zero doubt

# ? Sep 2, 2016 20:49

Mel Mudkiper: Jan 19, 2012; At this point, Mudman abruptly ends the conversation. He usually insists on the last word.

Intruder posted:

It's funny how Mel switched team allegiance over a QB who was a million times better than the one he's currently defending

Sometimes the quality of a person is more important than their talent.

It's why I root for Ben Roethlisberger

# ? Sep 2, 2016 20:50

Alaois: Feb 7, 2012

seiferguy posted:

That play isn't really Hack's fault. Left guard missed his mark, RB did too, and the DE made a fantastic play too.

okay

# ? Sep 2, 2016 20:51

Mel Mudkiper: Jan 19, 2012; At this point, Mudman abruptly ends the conversation. He usually insists on the last word.

Alaois posted:

okay

A remarkably accurate pass with a beautiful spiral imho

# ? Sep 2, 2016 20:53

Sash!: Mar 16, 2001

Mel Mudkiper posted:

A remarkably accurate pass with a beautiful spiral imho

It DID go exactly where he threw it so

# ? Sep 3, 2016 00:40

warcrimes: Jul 6, 2013; I don't know what's it called, I just know the sound it makes when it takes a J4G's life.

Grittybeard posted:

Still don't think that's true, or at least the fashion in which he busted. Sure we knew he liked to party. We had no idea what a complete and utter addict he is.

He's poo poo at QBing in the NFL.

# ? Sep 3, 2016 01:20

Grittybeard: Mar 29, 2010; Bad, very bad!

warcrimes posted:

He's poo poo at QBing in the NFL.

Perhaps (probably, almost certainly), he didn't last long enough to actually prove that though.

# ? Sep 3, 2016 01:32

corn on the cop: Oct 12, 2012; Break what must be broken, once for all, that's all, and take the suffering on oneself.

â Corey Dostoyevsky

Grittybeard posted:

Perhaps (probably, almost certainly), he didn't last long enough to actually prove that though.

if the last two years are anything to go by, jff was never going to have the work ethic and discipline to succeed

# ? Sep 3, 2016 01:33

Intruder: Mar 5, 2003

Maybe if he took the game more seriously like one Justin James Watt

Not gonna find any wins spread into lines on a mirror, JFF. Well not outside the 80s and early 90s anyway

Intruder fucked around with this message at 02:07 on Sep 3, 2016

# ? Sep 3, 2016 02:02

Grittybeard: Mar 29, 2010; Bad, very bad!

Poonerman posted:

if the last two years are anything to go by, jff was never going to have the work ethic and discipline to succeed

Well yeah, that's my point though. He didn't fail due to his probably not actually having the ability to be an NFL quarterback, he failed because he gave absolutely no shits about anything except about where he was going to partying that night.

e: I guess you could say that was predictable but I don't think anyone thought it was this bad.

Grittybeard fucked around with this message at 02:27 on Sep 3, 2016

# ? Sep 3, 2016 02:11

Impossibly Perfect Sphere: Nov 6, 2002; They wasted Luanne on Lucky!

She could of have been so much more but the writers just didn't care!

Benne posted:

I love that Christian Hackenberg was dogshit in college, everybody with half a brain knew he would be dogshit in the pros, some dumbass team wasted a second-round pick on him and he was, in fact, dogshit in the pros.

Who's the last QB to be this predictable of a draft flop? Jimmy Clausen?

Brandon Weeden.

# ? Sep 3, 2016 02:24

warcrimes: Jul 6, 2013; I don't know what's it called, I just know the sound it makes when it takes a J4G's life.

Grittybeard posted:

Perhaps (probably, almost certainly), he didn't last long enough to actually prove that though.

Spoken like you never actually watched any of his games. He was poo poo, period.

# ? Sep 3, 2016 03:08

Grittybeard: Mar 29, 2010; Bad, very bad!

warcrimes posted:

Spoken like you never actually watched any of his games. He was poo poo, period.

Steve Young sucked rear end in Tampa Bay. Saying he couldn't physically play the position is (again) probably right, but not proven.

# ? Sep 3, 2016 03:12

warcrimes: Jul 6, 2013; I don't know what's it called, I just know the sound it makes when it takes a J4G's life.

Grittybeard posted:

Steve Young sucked rear end in Tampa Bay. Saying he couldn't physically play the position is (again) probably right, but not proven.

lolwut

# ? Sep 3, 2016 03:43

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