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sean10mm
Jun 29, 2005

It's a Mad, Mad, Mad, MAD-2R World

Mel Mudkiper posted:

I feel like Hackenberg might actually succeed if only because he is definitely not starter material. The NFL has a bad habit right now of burning through rookie QBs and putting too much pressure on them. Hackenberg could ride the bench for a few seasons and turn a respectable Brock Osweiler performance in the end.

Serious question: when is the last time a QB who played dumb as poo poo in college became a good NFL player?

Because when I saw Hackenberg he looked football stupid.

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sean10mm
Jun 29, 2005

It's a Mad, Mad, Mad, MAD-2R World

Ty1990 posted:

Tonight Hack played 3+ quarters and went 11-31 for 54 yards, no touchdowns and a pick six. Somehow even that stat line doesn't accurately describe how loving terrible he looked.

Almost twice as many interception return yards as passing yards!

:master:

sean10mm
Jun 29, 2005

It's a Mad, Mad, Mad, MAD-2R World
Locker is a good parallel except Hack seems even worse. Put another way, a career 79.0 passer rating looks wildly optimistic for Hack right now, and that's where Locker ended up.

Both guys had eerily similar (bad) college stats:

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Passing
Year	School		Conf	Class	Pos	G	Cmp	Att	Pct	Yds	Y/A	AY/A	TD	Int	Rate
2013	Penn State	Big Ten	FR	QB	12	231	392	58.9	2955	7.5	7.4	20	10	134.0
*2014	Penn State	Big Ten	SO	QB	13	270	484	55.8	2977	6.2	5.3	12	15	109.4
*2015	Penn State	Big Ten	JR	QB	13	192	359	53.5	2525	7.0	7.2	16	6	123.9
Career	Penn State					693	1235	56.1	8457	6.8	6.5	48	31	121.4
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Passing
Year	School		Conf	Class	Pos	G	Cmp	Att	Pct	Yds	Y/A	AY/A	TD	Int	Rate
2007	Washington	Pac-10	FR	QB	12	155	328	47.3	2062	6.3	5.1	14	15	105.0
2008	Washington	Pac-10	SO	QB	4	50	93	53.8	512	5.5	5.7	1	0	103.6
2009	Washington	Pac-10	JR	QB	12	230	394	58.4	2800	7.1	6.9	21	11	130.1
*2010	Washington	Pac-10	SR	QB	12	184	332	55.4	2265	6.8	6.6	17	9	124.2
Career	Washington					619	1147	54.0	7639	6.7	6.2	53	35	119.1
Low completion % + low Y/A = garbage generally.

e: College rating is totally different from NFL passer rating by the way.

sean10mm
Jun 29, 2005

It's a Mad, Mad, Mad, MAD-2R World

Mel Mudkiper posted:

TFF: Preseason doesn't matter

*QB has one bad preseason game*

TFF: DRAFT BUST!!!

His entire preseason has been garbage and his college career was trash too. It's not just one thing, even though 1.7 YPA is almost impossibly awful.

sean10mm
Jun 29, 2005

It's a Mad, Mad, Mad, MAD-2R World

Mel Mudkiper posted:

hey everybody has a bad game let him out there under the big lights when it counts

I want to see this too, because I want to see if there is a circle of QB hell below "butt fumble." :butt:

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sean10mm
Jun 29, 2005

It's a Mad, Mad, Mad, MAD-2R World

Mel Mudkiper posted:

Someone save this quote for when Pats fans are begging for Hack on their team

Après Brady le déluge is kind of a given.

I for one am hoping that it's at least a spectacular catastrophe.

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