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RedSpider posted:So how are they going to explain a 25 year old Han Solo played by Aiden Ehrenreich becoming a 25 year old Han Solo played by Harrison Ford in A New Hope? Has Disney sent the market research through corporate for explaining this yet? Harrison Ford was 35 when Star Wars came out, so a 25 year old Han Solo makes sense for the movie. Puts it just about midway between Revenge of the Sith and A New Hope.
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# ¿ Jul 19, 2017 04:43 |
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UmOk posted:I. Don't. Care. You saw the penis is what matters. Also Death Star Vagina. What's that man doing to his thermal exhaust port
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# ¿ Jul 19, 2017 04:47 |
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# ¿ Jul 19, 2017 04:56 |
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I was curious to see where the EU ended, apparently this was the last novel. http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Crucible_(novel) I'm not reading that exhaustive plot summary, but holy poo poo, we're talking a 63 year old Luke (and Leia) and an 80 year old Han Solo still carrying the story.
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# ¿ Jul 19, 2017 22:06 |
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jivjov posted:Well, part of that is helped by the fact that they play "Its the future and medicine is way better" straight, and 55 is seen as early middle age. Han is barely touching 'old' on that scale. I know Obi-Wan got a lot of sun in his latter years, but he was looking pretty brittle when he died at 57 years old (according to Wookiepedia).
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# ¿ Jul 19, 2017 22:17 |
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Obi Wan spent his days in Mos Eisley, chain smoking death sticks and pounding Jawa Juice
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# ¿ Jul 19, 2017 22:23 |
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UmOk posted:Posts like this make it sound awesome. Was there a thread for it? I didn't see one The Book of Henry is bad, but it's amiably bad. The performances are generally fine and it's competently made, it's just that taken at face value it's tremendously confused and misguided, the tone is insane, and the kid at the center of it (I think unintentionally) is tremendously unlikable despite everyone around him basically regarding him as a saint. However, it gnawed on me a couple of days after seeing it, and I eventually settled on it having a pretty interesting point to make, just made in a bizarre fashion. General Dog fucked around with this message at 16:12 on Aug 3, 2017 |
# ¿ Aug 3, 2017 16:09 |
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Bongo Bill posted:Bizarre is good, I think. Also Sarah Silverman plays a friend of the mom and there's a weird sexual tension between her and the kid, which is kind of different.
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# ¿ Aug 3, 2017 19:05 |
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UmOk posted:That "gnawing" is what is good about movies. It means they made you think or something. I meant it as a positive thing. I still wouldn't go so far as to call it a good movie, though.
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# ¿ Aug 3, 2017 23:31 |
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romanowski posted:what is hard sci fi Hard sci fi portrays actual penetrative science, while soft sci fi is just simulated science.
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# ¿ Sep 13, 2017 04:04 |
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Starkiller isn't bad because the technology isn't believable in the Star Wars universe, it's bad because it's so unclear what the existence of that technology means for anyone involved. How did such a marginal faction pay for this and build it in secret? What does the destruction of Hosnian Prime mean for the Republic? What does the destruction of Starkiller mean for the First Order? Starkiller Base materializes out of thin air, kills billions of people that neither the audience nor the protagonists know or care anything about, and gets blowed up before anyone in-universe or in the audience has any time to process its ramifications. Within the plot of The Force Awakens, Starkiller base could have just been a shipyard or something and it wouldn't have altered how the story played out. General Dog fucked around with this message at 19:00 on Sep 13, 2017 |
# ¿ Sep 13, 2017 18:58 |
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SuperMechagodzilla posted:This is exactly the case, and the lack of context - the materialization 'out of nowhere' is what makes TFA conducive to being read as fantasy. Yeah, it's sort of like Lord of the Rings where the nebulous idea of Sauron (or evil in general) "growing stronger" is manifested in the material plane (in the form of armies who literally crawl out of the woodwork) with no real explanation. This isn't a flaw in Lord of the Rings because its logic is internally consistent- it's a fable- but it's a departure for Star Wars, where there's always been intuitive real-world logic behind who the belligerents are and where they would draw their support from. General Dog fucked around with this message at 19:25 on Sep 13, 2017 |
# ¿ Sep 13, 2017 19:22 |
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Mr. Funny Pants posted:Maybe none of this matters, but are these not reasonable? No, you're absolutely right. In ANH the Empire was at the apex of its power at that point, to an extent that they could effectively police a far-flung shithole like Tatooine. Other than the Rebellion, there presumably weren't a bunch of autonomous military powers that could take action against them. On the other hand, if we're to understand that every standing army in the galaxy except for the New Order and the Resistance were milling around in that one system, and that the other 98% of the galaxy is now helpless to resist, then that's stone cold retarded. You can call this nitpicking, but the writers could have established any political reality for the galaxy that they wanted starting out that would best suit the story they wanted to tell; they chose to write themselves into this corner. General Dog fucked around with this message at 02:15 on Sep 14, 2017 |
# ¿ Sep 14, 2017 02:13 |
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Milky Moor posted:That's precisely what I mean, though. Tarkin, Lando, Obi-Wan, Beru, Jabba, Greedo, etc. etc. But there's this sort-of meme that everyone in Star Wars has a monosyllabic name because of Han, Luke, Leia. And, as Abrams is wont to do... Lei-uh
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# ¿ Sep 14, 2017 02:25 |
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Luke Han Lay Art Si Chew Obe Darth Yode Sid
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# ¿ Sep 14, 2017 02:30 |
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For me the problem with Starkiller is the difference between a movie showing an eccentric billionaire owning the only flying car in the world and a movie showing the Benton, Arkansas chapter of the KKK owning the only flying car in the world. The physics of how the flying car would work isn't the first objection that comes to mind.
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# ¿ Sep 14, 2017 14:09 |
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https://brorlandi.github.io/StarWarsIntroCreator/#!/AKu03TgKd50SjLlw2m5r
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# ¿ Sep 14, 2017 16:46 |
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Why didn't they (the filmmakers) just blow up Coruscant? That would have at least been a bit ballsy. We have no connection to the current iteration of the Republic, but we at least have some connection to the planet.
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# ¿ Sep 14, 2017 17:49 |
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I guess what I've been getting at is that if the point of Starkiller was to "even the playing field", and we're supposed to believe that- even with a large portion of the Republic fleet gone- the First Order can project enough strength to threaten a large portion of the galaxy before the Republic systems can retool for war, then that's loving stupid; it's too much of a leap.
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# ¿ Sep 14, 2017 20:10 |
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Waffles Inc. posted:not that it matters all that much, but is there any interview or insight from JJ or one of the tfa writers or anything why Leia's group had to be the resistance and not just like, straight up the republic? I just don't understand that From posts itt about the books, I think it's something to the effect that the member systems of the Republic are largely tired of fighting the remnants of the Empire and don't take them seriously enough to want to expend the effort to finish the job. Thus the Republic votes to make peace, but some of the higher ups (not very subtly) commission this CIA Black OPs bullshit to break Imperial control of their remaining systems.
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# ¿ Sep 14, 2017 20:27 |
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Also his robot hand in that one case
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# ¿ Sep 15, 2017 04:56 |
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Episode IX will feature Leia, just in a slightly different form
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# ¿ Sep 15, 2017 16:04 |
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Basebf555 posted:I still refuse to believe that Snoke isn't going to end up being some form of fan service. The way our information about him is limited, it seems likely there's some surprise for us in store about him. The only possible ways I can see them going are that he's either someone we already know or have already heard of in the OT, or he's a Wizard of Oz type fraud who doesn't really actually know anything about using the Dark Side beyond book knowledge. I can't see any answer to the former that makes sense, so I'm leaning toward the latter. -He's not a Sidious clone because he doesn't look anything like Sidious, and surely the story group isn't desperate enough to start grave robbing yet -He's not Darth Plagueis because who cares -He's not a Rebels character because who cares I guess the most reasonable reveal would be that he was Luke's first Jedi apprentice, in which case he probably covertly corrupted Ben Solo and several of Luke's other trainees while serving as a teacher at Luke's Jedi School. Probably got hosed up by Luke when the Knights of Ren revealed themselves. General Dog fucked around with this message at 17:36 on Sep 15, 2017 |
# ¿ Sep 15, 2017 17:25 |
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Spacebump posted:Everyone from the bar scene in 7 will have their own stories soon enough. Which is cannon now, Wolfman or Dinosaur Smoking a Bong?
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# ¿ Sep 17, 2017 02:00 |
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jivjov posted:^canon Dammit you got me, I'm usually a pedant on this level but I'm drunkposting.
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# ¿ Sep 17, 2017 02:08 |
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The Empire of the OT always seemed like a really banal strain of evil. We never met many zealots, most everybody was a 9-5 type who was just putting in hours- talking about cars, bitching about all the drills, and trying not to get choked to death by their boss.
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# ¿ Sep 17, 2017 19:32 |
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The funny thing about the First Order is that none of them seem totally sold that they're doing the right thing- Hux talks with a lot of bluster and inflammatory rhetoric, but his voice nearly cracks when he shouts; he sheds a tear and is generally shaken when Starkiller Base fires. He comes across a big bundle of nerves; he's in over his head and he knows it. Kylo Ren is nominally a Believer, but he wears his uncertainty on his sleeve. He believes in the Dark Side, but he's not sure he has the faith to go the distance. ("If anyone comes to Me, and does not hate his own father and mother and wife and children and brothers and sisters, yes, and even his own life, he cannot be My disciple."- Luke 14:26)
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# ¿ Sep 17, 2017 19:41 |
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Spacebump posted:Wasn't the OT Empire space racists that only let humans work for them and also employed the use of weapons of mass destruction to genocide a whole planet? Yeah, the British Empire basically. What's more banal than the British Empire?
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# ¿ Sep 17, 2017 20:04 |
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Mr President posted:Thrawn was a high ranking Imperial in both old and new canon Thrawn is the Colin Powell of the Star Wars Universe
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# ¿ Sep 18, 2017 00:20 |
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Facism is inherently cool- if it's not cool, it's not proper facism.
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# ¿ Sep 18, 2017 17:25 |
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porfiria posted:Edit: Also we do see Vader get down on his knees in ESB, so it's kind of a wash versus Star Wars, coup d'etat talk aside. Real Men Pray
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