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Danger
Jan 4, 2004

all desire - the thirst for oil, war, religious salvation - needs to be understood according to what he calls 'the demonogrammatical decoding of the Earth's body'

Taintrunner posted:

The PT is a clusterfuck of trying to be everything for everyone, including a racist caricature of a black man for children to laugh at.

They're bad movies that don't make any sense, especially when you consider every single point of failure in Palpatine's master plan to rise to power, like making sure the Trade Federation blockade only nicks the Queen's ship so they're forced to land on Tattooine, a massive planet, so Qui-Gon encounters the slave boy that Palpatine willed into life with Darth Plagueis the Wise.

I'm glad you brought this up in this thread. Much like the Star Wars films themselves, profound repetition is characterized by profound difference.

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Danger
Jan 4, 2004

all desire - the thirst for oil, war, religious salvation - needs to be understood according to what he calls 'the demonogrammatical decoding of the Earth's body'
And, I mean, they are like explicitly made more children. Lucas has been vocal about that since first making Star Wars.

Danger
Jan 4, 2004

all desire - the thirst for oil, war, religious salvation - needs to be understood according to what he calls 'the demonogrammatical decoding of the Earth's body'
Also the diner sequence is like an explicit quote of American Graffiti. John is killed by a drunk driver, but that's extraneous to the onscreen depiction isn't it.

Danger
Jan 4, 2004

all desire - the thirst for oil, war, religious salvation - needs to be understood according to what he calls 'the demonogrammatical decoding of the Earth's body'

Phi230 posted:

lmao you revere CGI turds as high as actually magical and emotional moments from the OT

who are you loving people

The prequels had some of the best miniature work of all time. There was some astounding work done on them.

Taintrunner posted:

This isn't an excuse to make a bad movie, and this is what I take issue with the most.


Again, there's nothing wrong with being a children's movie or made for children. No one is saying it's an excuse. Just that Lucas set out to explicitly make films for children. It is a nice perk that the pre-quels are pretty darn good movies.

Danger
Jan 4, 2004

all desire - the thirst for oil, war, religious salvation - needs to be understood according to what he calls 'the demonogrammatical decoding of the Earth's body'

UmOk posted:

Phi, why do you talk about the prequels so much?

It's almost like Star Wars fans that don't like prequels do like prequels.

The prequels are just about the most interesting films in the series.

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Danger
Jan 4, 2004

all desire - the thirst for oil, war, religious salvation - needs to be understood according to what he calls 'the demonogrammatical decoding of the Earth's body'
Also the pre-quels were a landmark in miniature design and filming. Really, some of the stuff they did was incredible. Also impressive set and location shoots. The "but cgi" complaint is the flimsiest there is and disrespects some amazing prop/set design.

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