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Welcome to 2016 and the January edition of Auspol. As we enter the second year of the Turnbull Government's 23 year reign let's hope that in 2016 Auspol continues it's unstoppable march of quality posting and mature debate. It's not off to a good start as I'm doing the thread. So last month... Jamie Briggs Abbott fanboy and table top dancer Jamie Briggs gifted Turnbull a near perfect smokescreen proving that Australia with it's puppy dog attention span enjoys scandal over a criminal investigation any day. Thankfully, Briggs' Hong Kong fantasy of living out drunken renditions of Khe Sanh when he was a Young Prime Minister Turnbull gives the Member for Mayo some helpful tips on DFAT travel. Some Other Guy So to explain this one... Y'see it was.. gently caress it - copy/pasta from wikipedia: quote:Federal politics and diary allegations https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mal_Brough#Federal_politics_and_diary_allegations And I donate every year so get stuffed. Prime Minister Turnbull casts his eye on one of the dumbest shits to draw breath. Bread and Circuses If your the kind of person who likes standing around a 44 gallon drum fire while poor people are forced at gunpoint to throw their money in then you would have LOVED the outcomes of the Royal Commission into trade unions. Australia has been stoked that $80 million were spent to discover that Kathy Jackson is allegedly a crook. Allegedly. And as referring former union The rest of the month was poo poo. And it was Christmas so I wasn't paying much attention. And the Government hosed over Gonski. I'm going to re-post quite a bit of last month's OP as it's about 200% better than what I could put together: Whos in politics? The Australian Greens Placed first since almost everyone who regularly posts in this thread is a member. The Greens are a left wing party of hippies who have unreasonable and impractical policy ideas and an infantile fascination with fairness and decency. They stubbornly refuse to give up and accept that the only way to make real change in the world is to roll over and accept neoliberal rule. The Australian Labor Party The ineffective and incompetent right wing opposition party led by an empty suit. Subject to numerous attempts at "change from within" that would be laughable if they weren't so sad. As an ineffective alternative to the government it has meekly agreed with almost everything the government wants to do that involves the brutal treatment and dehumanisation of refugees. The Australian Liberal Party The Liberal Party stands for just about every wrong headed thing you can think of. As a result they are wildly popular among both the rich shithead and poor shithead demographics. Sadly these are large demographics in Australia. They have recently been reaching out to the Fascist demographic as well. Their only saving grace is that they are so incompetent that they can't do so much as sneeze without making GBS threads themselves publicly. Palmer United Party A comedy party led by Mining magnate Clive Palmer who is the only person who rightly treats public office like the media circus it is. He bids outgoing members goodbye and rehashes popular dance songs into campaign jingles while dressing in fursuits. The National Party <placeholder> The Australian Sex Party Like the Greens but with human policies put above environmental ones the ASP is led by Fiona Patten and would like to see drugs legalised, abortion legalised, reduced religious influence in politics and a bunch of other touchy feely stuff. Unf. Katters Australia Party A more functional National party resident in Queensland led by Bob Katter, a ten gallon hat wearing homophobe. There is an irc channel, #auspol on synirc where Australians discuss things, presumably dark spooky things that man was not meant to know. IRC Rules: Dont be a shithead, dont say racist, sexist, or nasty things. Dont discuss verboten topics. bumpunisher69 Heres a link to a past thread with more info in it. http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3739446 Now on with the show.
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# ¿ Jan 1, 2016 11:56 |
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# ¿ May 10, 2024 15:28 |
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Good to see SFA happening in "do nothing" Victoria. The only thing we change here now are number plate slogans. Also, I can't believe I haven't been subscribing to the Australian. It just oozes class doesn't it?
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# ¿ Jan 2, 2016 02:22 |
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gay picnic defence posted:How does the government plan to get student loans back from people living overseas? Can they force you to declare your income, do they have any means of verifying it, and can they do anything about it if you give them a fake number? If they are thinking of something like FATCA for say the UK and the US I'm going to laugh so hard I'll do myself an injury.
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# ¿ Jan 2, 2016 04:37 |
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Cartoon posted:I like the fact that these Neanderthals can't fathom that the strategy of burying this is completely undone by their outraged declarations of unfairness. Logic gets thrown out the window when you're a seething Abbott supporter. The intent of any manufactured outrage seems purely to paint Turnbull as reactionary and heavy handed toward supporters of the former PM. Not at all like that fair minded Abbott.
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# ¿ Jan 2, 2016 05:18 |
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gay picnic defence posted:Would other countries bother signing up if we did something like that? I can imagine nations being a bit unwilling to ignore a US or UK request to do stuff like that because those two actually have some clout on the world stage, but who would give a gently caress what a little tinpot state like us wants? Very unlikely. FATCA is insane given there is zero benefit to the Australian financial sector - with those costs passed straight onto us. As you say, no other country is going to bear that burden unless they are forced to. So maybe some level of basic data sharing with debtors stung with a "no re-payment agreement/no leave" deal when they re-enter Australia will be the extent of it. On another completely unrelated topic. Went to the supermarket before. 2nd January, hot cross buns.
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# ¿ Jan 2, 2016 06:04 |
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ewe2 posted:They were in Coles on New Years Eve. I'm sure they price crunched any small companies in the supply chain and paid poo poo wages to employees stacking them on shelves as well. Just a bit of the Coles truly magical spirit of the season.
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# ¿ Jan 2, 2016 10:23 |
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freebooter posted:I for one thing hot cross buns are rad and would be happy to see them all year. Ditto easter eggs Yeah maybe, but would they be special to you anymore? I have no personal sensibilities with regards to religion but I respect that many people do when it comes to blatant commercialization. Can't you just buy chocolate and bake your own spicy treats through the year? e: Or do what we do, put a poo poo load in the freezer.
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# ¿ Jan 2, 2016 10:33 |
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Nice to know at least one of the photos slime bag took wasn't an up skirt.
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# ¿ Jan 3, 2016 01:46 |
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The ABC posted:WA Labor in election-winning position in latest newspoll Who could have predicted digging poo poo out of the ground would not lead to gold paved streets!?!
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# ¿ Jan 4, 2016 00:33 |
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Amoeba102 posted:Yeah, it's been there for a while but I only just saw it recently. Never been despite going to Tasmania a few times a year. On the list, but I don't know if I want to explain a bunch of exhibits to four wide eyed children. I'm told that you can rate exhibits there. The kicker is that the ones down voted actually get moved to more prominent places. Also, apparently there is a balcony cafe there that serves awesome chips, c/d?
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# ¿ Jan 4, 2016 01:00 |
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DSE used to sell stuff to make cool stuff. Now they just sell poo poo to the ignorant consumer fooled by their '80s credibility.
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# ¿ Jan 4, 2016 02:41 |
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Who knew Anidav has such a passion and a well of knowledge for defunct (or near defunct) electronic chains! I've tried Jaycar for one of my nerdy hobbies and I've basically given up on them. The biggest challenge as a hobbiest is finding out what they have. And small purchases are a killer. Although I'm ashamed to admit it I use eBay pretty much 100% now. It seems sellers are much more incentivised to articulate what they have, eBay's search isn't too bad and you can buy across many sellers at minimal cost. Buy at minimal cost your own peril though. You get what you pay for so quality can be hit and miss. There are now a lot of Autralian based e-stores that front Chinese manufacturers now so quality can be less of a problem once you find some of them. I always buy from another state as I've found some suppliers get very aggressive if you complain as they don't want negative eBay feedback. I don't want them landing on my doorstep.
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# ¿ Jan 4, 2016 05:31 |
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Anidav posted:If you get involved in online debates about economic history, it won't be long before someone tells you that the West is rich because it stole the resources of the regions it colonized. This stolen-wealth theory is cited as the reason Britain and France are rich today, while Ethiopia and Burundi are poor. It also is sometimes used to argue that global capitalism is inherently unjust and that wealth must be radically redistributed between nations as compensation. Tell me, is Africa a better or worse continent since 1957? I'm not a fan of colonization but I am a believer in sensible transitions. (Also white spacing mate.)
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# ¿ Jan 4, 2016 08:32 |
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Not men though. What's the rationale behind this? I'd scoop out my own eyes before I watched an episode of ACA. I can see it now, "The Running Bludger" - a new reality program brought to you by Channel Nine! If it's single mothers they're hunting down I'd say that horse has already bolted. A referral to counselling for family planning options for long, long term unemployed who have their umpteenth kid? I would at least listen to that discussion, but its a shame so many people will take this seriously.
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# ¿ Jan 4, 2016 12:56 |
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In today's junk mail. I think I'll wait for the fire sale. Doctor Spaceman posted:Read any of Gary Johns' op-ed pieces from the past few years and you'll get an idea. Jesus, trust me I won't. Good luck depending on aged care down the track Gary with the rest of the horde. How many kids does he have I wonder? If he doesn't have anyone I hope he's looking forward to lying in his own piss for half a day at a time. e: A trip in the time machine people. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=deNlBLAXsxU Graic Gabtar fucked around with this message at 13:19 on Jan 4, 2016 |
# ¿ Jan 4, 2016 13:11 |
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PaletteSwappedNinja posted:Barnaby Joyce: I hope we don't become too politically correct after Briggs, Dutton affairs Doesn't he mean "deliberately barren"?
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# ¿ Jan 5, 2016 11:06 |
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auspol - all the big issues. I don't care what you call them. I just enjoy a sausage with some bread product and deep fried potato noms.
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# ¿ Jan 6, 2016 00:52 |
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gay picnic defence posted:I've become too desensitised to that sort of thing to get angry about it, try harder next time. It's one thing to have a very divisive policy endorsed by the two major paries. However, its very much a different cat to see it applied with complete incompetence. As a mainly conservative voter (and with no empirical research) my comment to you is - getting "get angry" about the later would appeal to more people I know than the former. Which is part of the outcome you want and would even be supported by scum like me. So, unless your just being flippant - don't be a quitter. PaletteSwappedNinja posted:Maybe, and I'm just spitballing here, we should drag these people out of bed in the middle of the night and shoot them dead in the street If we can go one for one with Greens senators I'm all in.
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# ¿ Jan 6, 2016 02:28 |
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Zenithe posted:Check out the whole conversation, it's pretty amazing. I'm amazed that you're amazed by what a hard core Libertarian says to anyone and on what platform. Be nice if he dropped the "c bomb" on The Bolt Report though. e: Ha! Any publicity is good publicity: http://www.theage.com.au/federal-po...105-gm03xj.html Graic Gabtar fucked around with this message at 02:53 on Jan 6, 2016 |
# ¿ Jan 6, 2016 02:50 |
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TheMightyHandful posted:gently caress people. Yep.
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# ¿ Jan 6, 2016 10:27 |
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Birb Katter posted:Came by boat no less Jesus. I checked my calendar and it's not April 1st. Is my iPhone completely rekt?
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# ¿ Jan 6, 2016 10:31 |
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Ian Winthorpe III posted:I sympathize a lot with the female reporter in this circumstance: Gayle was hardly behaving like Hitler but cricket is a gentleman's game and it would have been the gentlemanly thing to show her respect as a sports journalist -she's put in a lovely situation whereby she can't really neutralize his flirting and do her job without coming across as 'bitchy' or a 'victim'. Fred Trueman once asked about the gentle, gentlemanliness of cricket on live television responded with, "My idea of a gentleman is someone who gets out of the bath to have a piss." That's all I got.
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# ¿ Jan 6, 2016 11:33 |
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Ian Winthorpe III posted:Good when i'm enjoying the sound and spectacle of a chinese new years parade Bah, disappointed. I thought you were going to say that 'Australian Chinese' buffet night at the RSL was grouse.
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# ¿ Jan 7, 2016 00:09 |
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Frogmanv2 posted:I actually conversed with Scott Ludlam about this, and he convinced me that nuclear power is not right for Australia. It's not needed, it will take too long, the risks are too high compared to other generation methods and as long as there is humans in control of the systems, there will always be a giant glaring weak spot. I agree 100%. However, having policy to not involve Australia in any aspect of waste reprocessing and/or storage is real head in the sand stuff after being very responsible for letting the uranium genie out of the bottle.
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# ¿ Jan 7, 2016 04:00 |
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Doctor Spaceman posted:Why are people talking about Joyce as Deputy PM today? Did people finally remember Truss existed only to check in on him and find out he died months ago? Many months ago.
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# ¿ Jan 7, 2016 05:07 |
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hooman posted:For example anyone lobbying to shut down or not replace the lucas heights reactor is an idiot because it is a vital and necessary supplier of short half life radio-medical treatment and diagnostic items. I'm sure a few people have heard of it/seen it but a recent doco Twisting the dragon's tail gives a fairly good overview of Lucas Heights and the short term viability of nuclear medicine. Kind of makes the Greens leap of faith future technology argument look like the equivalent of 'clean coal'. A bit lame to be honest. EXAKT Science posted:Yeah tell that to the birds you loving monster Early days but this might not be a problem forever: http://www.technologyreview.com/news/537721/bladeless-wind-turbines-may-offer-more-form-than-function/ Unless birds go all Hitchcock before that in which case, we'll all be hosed coal or no coal.
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# ¿ Jan 7, 2016 07:09 |
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xPanda posted:What do you mean by this? I watched that doco and I don't remember any shenanigans regarding nuclear medicine. What I do remember of the doco are the concluding remarks, which said that we've pretty much missed the boat with nuclear and that if we have to make a decision right now (which we do) that we should go renewable. You sure you didn't see the overview of Lucas Heights and then in hospital with the cancer patient in remission? They demonstrated just how short the half-life of nuclear medicine can be. The show was a partnership between PBS and SBS. Which version did you see? I saw the PBS version. Maybe there were differences in editing?
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# ¿ Jan 7, 2016 07:32 |
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I dug up the transcript. My emphasis.TTDT posted:But there are other dangerous radioactive fission fragments in there with much shorter half-lives. Orkin Mang posted:i wish graig gabtar was in a coma Well is a waking coma good enough? Orkin Mang said my name! BBJoey posted:I think he was asking about your"Kind of makes the Greens leap of faith future technology argument look like the equivalent of 'clean coal'. A bit lame to be honest." statement, which I too do not understand. There's no future technology involved - currently, considering the cost and time it takes to build a nuclear power plant, renewables are a much more cost-effective and realistic proposal than creating an Australian nuclear power industry from scratch. If you're using Lucas Heights as an example of how Australia could jump to nuclear power you've missed that the HIFAR is a medical reactor which is much less complicated than a full-fledged powerplant. I think you misunderstand me. I was referring to the Greens policy on nuclear medicine. Greens posted:The Australian Greens want: We should not be considering building any nuclear power plants - that ship has sailed (and was probably never in port given our energy security). We already have one for medical purposes. No need for any more. Citing your references (once) - achievement unlocked. Now that I've done that I'm off to make potato salad. Graic Gabtar fucked around with this message at 11:01 on Jan 7, 2016 |
# ¿ Jan 7, 2016 07:53 |
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Argh! The clichéd snippets of text that litter that trailer are terrible. I think that might be the millionth time you'll see Yeats / Chinua Achebe shat on as well.
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# ¿ Jan 7, 2016 12:14 |
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SeekOtherCandidate posted:you're wrong about nuclear and the fact that you've paired it with gmos is a dead giveaway that you're mostly a fan because of the bizarre first world nerd fetishisation of science and new technology as a substitute for religion and australia will never need and should never use nuclear power Agree with you about power, but what are your views on nuclear medicines? Graic Gabtar fucked around with this message at 04:29 on Jan 8, 2016 |
# ¿ Jan 8, 2016 04:20 |
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Count Chocula posted:I was in the audience for Doctor Karl's Challenge of Change/Intergenerational Report ad (they paid me in Coles vouchers) and during the between-take banter, audience Q&As, interesting factoids and plugs for his books I challenged his claim about the dangers of GMOs; he said he'd look into it. Well, maybe you were just like a Coles employee for a brief time?
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# ¿ Jan 8, 2016 13:39 |
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I'm not going to say this is a good thing but it sounds like a bit of a typical beat up on a certain religion. Wind back the clock. The Age posted:
Many tax payers "unwittingly" fully fund these facilities as well, but it's not presented as an angle in the article above. As abhorrent as these individuals can be you have to house them somewhere. If the Catholic church wants to pick up the bill so be it.
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# ¿ Jan 10, 2016 05:25 |
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Mad Katter posted:I think the most problematic part about the story is that the victims receive relatively little support from the church in comparison to their abusers. Yes it's the quite obvious angle of the story, but it's still a beat up. A simple Google shows that the offenders named were in the article are/were supported by the church for around ten years each. One is dead. Not hard to rack up "hundreds of thousands of dollars" to be honest. They should have reported that so that readers know the rivers of gold have stopped for at least one of them. If you want to write an article about lovely payments to victims of crimes then do that. Unless they draw comparisons between Church vs. State funding for a similar thing as well then it just reads like a junk article.
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# ¿ Jan 10, 2016 09:16 |
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The Peccadillo posted:Rehabilitation of sexually abusive convicts as a public project and private payments to offenders from the body they were facilitated by are very different things, with very different rubrics and aims, and they do not replace eachother Fair enough, but are the financial objectives any different? Does it really matter? The public system is to protect others. Anyone else has been deemed an 'acceptable risk' will live in society. So regardless, these people's living costs will be funded one way or another. Obviously this is a highly emotive issue as the Catholic Church cannot put up a plausible argument that they have not been complicit in these crimes over many decades and it's obviously damage control under the guise of the church 'caring for their own'. However, the article making a link between payments paid to victims and the church supporting those convicted financially over a long period of time is a pointless one put there play on that emotion. Senor Tron posted:Well in the government funded program it's expressly for the purpose of keeping them away from children. Is there anything showing that the Church programs involve round the clock seperation of the offenders from youth? The state is responsible in deciding who is too dangerous to be released into society. If there was too much of a risk of them reoffending then they would be at Ararat. If there were conditions placed on them as a part of release, e.g. proximity to children then they or the church would not be above the law. The same as any other person working, on a pension or being funded by friends or relatives who have been convicted with the same crimes. Are these people monitored around the clock?
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# ¿ Jan 11, 2016 00:10 |
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Birb Katter posted:Thread has been pretty quiet lately so let's get back on track. Should sausages be called sangas or sandwiches? Can they both be sangas so you can have a sanga sanga? Sausage in bread. They are not sandwiches Also, with the exception of a democracy sausage which is a God given right - sausage in bread or hotdog?
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# ¿ Jan 11, 2016 00:17 |
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Anidav posted:People actually exist who call burgers sandwiches. I exist. I'll often call a burger a sandwich. A legacy of time in the US I guess. I think the naming convention is something like: Sliders - small burgers, usually served three at a time as bar snacks etc. Sandwiches - hand sized burger, kind of like a rissole in a roll. "Here mate, have a rissole" Burger - some loving ginormous heart attack on a bed of fries. I'm assuming there are plenty of other regional variations.
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# ¿ Jan 11, 2016 01:15 |
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You Am I posted:My first customer was Megan The best pizza is a vegetarian with ham.
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# ¿ Jan 11, 2016 01:40 |
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Vladimir Poutine posted:That doesn't sound vegetarian at all!! I didn't say it was! A vegetarian pizza usually has the best imaginative ingredients not stodgy or by the numbers. Ham just makes it awesome. It's like going to Gopal's on Swanston St in Melbourne and being able to take in a nicely cooked eye fillet.
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# ¿ Jan 11, 2016 04:12 |
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hooman posted:I have no idea what either of those are. Sounds a bit loving la-de-da for auspol doesn't it? hooman posted:Goats Cheese Vegetarian Pizza with Lamb is the best you pleb. Sounds good! Anything with a face, pile it on.
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# ¿ Jan 11, 2016 04:18 |
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# ¿ May 10, 2024 15:28 |
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hooman posted:meat Heh, heh, heh. "Meat"
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# ¿ Jan 11, 2016 07:43 |