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Ehh - if A) they did no major damage to the property they're squatting on, which is still conceivable, and B) they weren't making noises about resisting arrest by way of massive shootout, I'd be more-or-less supportive of their right to protest even though I think their particular grounds are pants-on-head crazy/stupid. B's considerably more important than A. "I think there should be no government above the county level" is constitutionally protected speech. "...And we'll resist any tyrannical federal attempts to take us unto custody with these here firearms" is, uh, pushing it.
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Crain posted:A) has yet to be seen and B) is false. They have literally done little more than make noise about resisting arrest by way of massive shoot out: Well, yeah. I was more hypothesizing a slightly nicer parallel universe where I would still disagree with them but support their right to squat (and get arrested on any vandalism or obstruction charges the feds can think up, but thems the breaks). Point is, the bad thing here is the threat of shootout, not so much the protest or even its location.
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Aspergeoisie posted:But, as it stands right now, these armed protesters are the ones standing at having "done far less." I think you, and many others, are stuck on the latter half of your statement. In believing the Oregon protesters' cause ignoble—and it surely is—you convinced yourself that taking over a loving shack in the middle of nowhere is worse than the massive destruction of urban and suburban property wrought by the left's myriad protest movements in the last decade alone. I am perfectly fine with these militiamen being treated like past leftist and/or colored protest movements. If they are not, I would quite like for future leftist and/or colored protest movements to be treated comparably.
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A Saucy Bratwurst posted:Currently they are sitting in a few buildings in the middle of nowhere "Most [protests] on the left" would agree that burning cars, smashing stores, and rioting is bad. I'd say "and you know that", but I'm not actually sure you do. Empirically speaking, I think I'm increasingly curious about what would happen if some protests on the left started open carrying firearms in their peaceful enterprises and hinting that they would resist arrest with lethal force. They'd be crushed with even more force than BLM traditionally is. To reiterate my position from some pages ago: protests, even stupid sovereign citizen protests, fine. Occupation of federal property, fine-ish although traditionally protesters who eg vandalize government property expect to be arrested and are fine with that (and even see it as a good visibility booster). Implicit threats against law enforcement, not particularly fine. Explicit threats against law enforcement, a la the last Bundy Incident, quite not fine. Goatse James Bond fucked around with this message at 06:48 on Jan 4, 2016 |
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ClancyEverafter posted:So any news about the Hickani Network's activities in North Orziristan? I like "Hickani", but all I'm getting from Orziristan is that I am a bit *frumple* about these *sad campers*.
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Jan 10, 2016 00:35
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Intel&Sebastian posted:In Texas, guys were organizing a march or rally tongo to OR, news said that they were arguing, one grabbed the others holstered weapon, the guy pulled his back up gun and shot him in the face. Aww, and here I had my German mercenary comment all lined up. Although let's be fair, that probably happened a ton in the 30yw too.
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Jan 15, 2016 02:14
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prefect posted:Please tell me you're talking about Orly Taitz. Oh God no.
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Jan 15, 2016 20:21
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Who What Now posted:The only reason to come armed is to commit violence. So yes, it does in fact constitute violence or at least a serious threat of it. I don't have a particular problem with eg the Black Panthers (or the goofballs currently calling themselves the New ones) engaging in open carry protests. That's not what bothers me about these folks either as such - it's their strongly suggested threats of violence, their explicit threats of Engaging in threats of violence while carrying a firearm is more concerning than engaging in threats of violence while carrying a baked potato, mind.
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skaboomizzy posted:Pete Santilli is gonna be responsible for all of these yahoos getting 30+ years. Maybe... maybe he's an FBI plant. 
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Jan 18, 2016 11:21
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kartikeya posted:A few more links I've run into this morning. Mr Bundy, I am pretty sure the Mandate of Heaven currently belongs to the Obama Dynasty.
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Jan 19, 2016 19:27
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Crain posted:One of these jackasses was blowing that thing one day when Ammon was trying to give a press release. It was hilarious. If not for the whole heavily armed paramilitary bit I would love these guys for the comedy value.
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DeathSandwich posted:Also, if she really really wanted to put a hard crackdown, the Governor is legally the Commander in Chief of their respective state's national guard when they aren't under federal control. An actual military crackdown would be an absolute bloodbath though, and terrible terrible optics. This sort of thing is why we need more outfits like the Texas State Guard, which is under the sole and exclusive control of the governor. 
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Jan 20, 2016 21:48
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Intel&Sebastian posted:Lmao the fuuuuuucking governor said that feds asked her not to comment so it wouldn't escalate the situation. This poo poo is ridiculous. It's working, isn't it? The feds are even getting free sex aids out of it!
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Jan 20, 2016 23:15
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Who What Now posted:There is a 1000% chance doing that will get you arrested. For gently caress's sake stop planning ways to touch the poop. I am on board with Sedanchair, which is itself horrifying.
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Jan 25, 2016 01:25
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ToastyPotato posted:I dunno. I just don't see these people as being as totally mentally gone as say, ISIS followers or something. They have yet to demonstrate that a single one of them is really all that suicidal and murderous. They make a lot of threats, but the complete lack of action in the face of what they themselves consider actual apocalyptic threats seems point to the likelihood that they are mostly bark and little bite and that the people that would be driven to violence by ANY action against them almost certainly would have been driven to violence at some point anyway. For all that their dickery with the refuge and Paiute artifacts and so on is disgusting, I am actually somewhat pleased that they haven't done anything more than, you know, harass a couple federal employees out of town with threats. 
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Jan 25, 2016 21:06
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Intel&Sebastian posted:PJ's fine. He's got a richer fanfic for what the fbi is up to and I think its out there, but he made some fine contributions towards explaining the fbi non response from his own perspective. Just because someone wants to talk to him on his own terms or agrees doesn't mean everyone here suddenly elected him super sheriff of the something awful county resource center. I especially don't understand that view of things considering how and who he is getting questioned by. Prester John is a transchick, fyi, but it's perfectly reasonable to assume a goon is male even without the username.
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Crain posted:Here look at this: I'll be honest, I have a certain amount of respect for this man. Especially in the temperatures involved.
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atomicthumbs posted:https://twitter.com/occupied_burns/status/692166254895960064 It may, in fact, be  happening .
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Ceiling fan posted:That's what night vision is for. I want to see some ROI for the billions sunk in the MIC. Put up the live stream! We had loving aerial drone coverage of the Boston Bombers' final showdown, and that was with a lot less warning. Let's do this thing.
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Jan 27, 2016 03:33
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chitoryu12 posted:I'm wondering how a raid is going to go with the terrain on the land. It's really open and the militia occupied a fire watch tower with snipers. I'm guessing a conflict will begin with either the watch tower shooting at approaching cops unless the police shoot first. It's an attempt at Firewatch viral marketing.
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Jan 27, 2016 03:37
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faxlore posted:They're sending coords to people for paths/roads to get past the roadblocks, apparently. Jade Helm was a total success. I, for one, am posting from a FEMA guardpost in the subterranean camps, whence the Texans have been rightly consigned.
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faxlore posted:They're (the Oregon State Militia) apparently planning to hike in 15 miles on foot ...I am very supportive of their enterprise.
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Jarmak posted:I know, but I have to admit I was beginning to lose faith, I was probably as much hoping I was right on this as I was actually believing I was. I must concede you were correct, possible FBI infiltrator of Team Patriot
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Vahakyla posted:Well this kinda sucks. People are gonna get hurt. As much as I love to make fun of those people, it's still stupid. I'm not saying that the FBI isn't doing what's necessary, but still. Well, you know, active and emphatic armed insurrections will do that.
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Kazak_Hstan posted:Barack Obama arrived clad in purple robes on a litter borne by sixteen white slaves. While Finicum was tending his cattle with his adopted children, Obama pointed at him and decreed "THAT MAN IS A CHRISTIAN, EXECUTE HIM," paid a member of the Muslim brotherhood (huma abedin) thirty of silver, and the noble rancher was beheaded live on Al Jazeera. The best President.
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theflyingorc posted:They're trying to get to Grant County They're learning and evolving. 
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Grem posted:All of them? Hopefully. Whereupon whichever FBI dude came up with the strategy is immediately promoted to Director of Homeland Security.
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Rodenthar Drothman posted:https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Campaign_for_%22santorum%22_neologism There's a reason that few Americans hate and fear the internet, and desire that it be destroyed, more than Rick Santorum.
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Lycus posted:DefendYourBase has a lovely phone, but he thinks the FBI is turning it off at random times. If I was on the FBI team living in a comms van at the blockade, that is exactly what I would be doing if allowed.
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Teddybear posted:I think I got blocked from the Popehat twitter stream after their anarchocapitalist contributor went on a tirade about birth control and Obamacare, and I pointed out that prostate health was covered too. It autocorrected to prostrate and I think he yelled for ten minutes about liberal statist retards or some poo poo. Clark has 
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Ra Ra Rasputin posted:I know it was a very mild winter to start and all... but why would they decide to start this in the middle of winter and not say, spring time? The refuge would then be in active use, for one, and expelling a bunch of active federal employees is a different kettle of fish to just squatting in their place of work and threatening their families for giggles. Also, it was partly in response to the Hammond thing, and outrage might have died down a bit by spring.
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Grem posted:Haha they're camping in the most pussified way possible, sleeping in running cars. They only have so much gasoline.
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Feb 3, 2016 23:59
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Evil Fluffy posted:A writer at the Onion sighs as he deletes the article he was writing. Whatever happened to Subzero Weather Sumo Dude?
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Skinty McEdger posted:I believe whoever destroyed it stole the tarp. Lost... or saleable to the highest bidder as a piece of American history?
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StandardVC10 posted:It's in Your Candidate Sucks now, but frankly I have no idea why you want to read it. It has been good at times, but not recently, and certainly not since it spiraled into the Democratic Candidates Hellmatch.
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Cantorsdust posted:Oh my god how loving stupid can you be to present your ID to a system connected to every national database, walk unarmed through security, and then board a flight which takes a few hours, during which the police have ample time to assemble and prepare for your arrest at your known location. The revolution is foiled again by the devious federal masterminds.
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Lotka Volterra posted:I suppose my greatest concern with the FBI's plan was that it made it incredibly easy for the militants and their ilk to skip out on charges if they were at all clever, and that no one could possibly be that stupid. I suppose I have to apologize to the FBI, and troll supreme Mark, for having accurately estimated these people's intelligence.
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Polaron posted:She's some SovCit ex-lawyer. Michelle Fiore is the councilwoman from Nevada. Wait, Krissan. I think that is the woman who was advising the patriots that they could arrest the sheriff and try him for treason.
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