skaboomizzy posted:

Since Ammon Bundy claims to want to use the area as a training base for armed uprising against the federal government and is actively calling for more militiamen, I hope they wait a couple weeks for all the militia types to get in there and burn the place down.

Xandu posted:

I wouldn't assume so. The US has a history of shooting crazy armed white men who barricade themselves in.

Astrofig posted:

That's assuming they know how to cook---most of it is easy poo poo that a middleschooler could make like mac and cheese, ramen cups, canned soup----the gently caress are they going to do with bags of raw flour, uncooked oats and raw potatoes? Did they think to bring a camp stove? (And fuel for it?)

OAquinas posted:

Holy poo poo this. The feds should set up a BBQ pit upwind and have a massive roast.

Discendo Vox posted:

It appears that local opinion is swaying in favor of the militants- that or substantial numbers in the audience are actually sympathizers/supporters from out of town.

ToxicSlurpee posted:

I like how it's "We the People" meaning "me and my twelve buddies decided this is right." Doesn't matter what the other 300,000,000 Americans think. This ain't a bird sanctuary anymore 'cause gently caress y'all we got cows to graze.

SquadronROE posted:

Tactilol squatting

As a Millennial I posted:

Why?

kartikeya posted:

That article I linked by JJ MacNab focuses on the Kanes. Not only was he 16, he was, from my understanding, the primary shooter, at least in the initial rampage. The cop he pulled the AK on didn't gun him down immediately, he held up a hand--and got filled full of bullets. Kid chases his partner around the police car, exchanging fire, until the second cop goes down. Then he walks up to them and shoots them while they're on the ground in a ditch.

Oh, and then they had another shootout with police later, wounding two more officers, in a parking lot. They were in the process of removing their license plates. Those two were cold as gently caress and this has happened a disturbing number of times. The lady the older Kane was in love with? Also a SovCit who tried to sue people for using her name in any article. Not for defamation for being linked to these guys, mind you. Because she claimed her name was copyrighted. And other SovCits saw these guys as heroes.

FAUXTON posted:

MaxxBot posted:

They don't mean sell it off to private sector companies, they just want the government to gift the land to them, which isn't a huge loving government handout because

Agent Mulder posted:

We’re hoping this is an isolated incident and we’re asking the elderly not to knock any more militants on their rear end

TapTheForwardAssist posted:

The Lapine is a takeoff of The Onion made by and for Canadians.

Armyman25 posted:

According to his bio he's a former Marine. Don't know why he'd opt to wear an Army uniform now.

Telsa Cola posted:

I would imagine a national guard member defecting to the militia or rendering any kind of aid to them if they were called into action would prolly get hammered every which way from Sunday by the courts, doubly so if for some magical hypothetical reason Obama gives a federal mobilization order to the state, if that happened they would get crucified by the military courts. Im pretty sure doing that kind of poo poo gets you shot by your buddies too. So yeah I don't think any one of them would be dumb enough to do that.

SquadronROE posted:

They cleaned their guns religiously.

Prester Jane posted:

The End Of The World As We Know It.

amazon reviewer posted:

Book source: borrowed via Kindle Unlimited - a subscription service that I pay a monthly fee to Amazon.

The basic plotline is that there's been some kind of nuclear attack on the US. If it was mentioned who the attacking country was, I missed it since I don't recall any mention. Anyhow, events take place mostly in the the four corners region of the US as the children of our 'hero' are caught in the aftermath of the explosion (cars won't run) and know that if they can just get home to the ranch and Dad (with a capital D), everything will be OK.

Since there are no cars running, walking or bicycles seem to be the only way to get around. Those of you familiar with the high desert of the Four Corners region know what kind of a rugged landscape is, and it's winter and snowing to boot - but no worries, these kids are H.E.A.L.T.H.Y. and can handle it all. Plus, any dangerous peeps about and they're loaded to the hilt with firearms, just like Dad (with a capital D) taught them. Oh, and since Dad (with a capital D) was wise and believed in an old prophecy by one of the Mormon gurus, he's been stocking up on food for years and even stashing it in super-secret places all over all the back roads leading to the ranch for the kids to find it on their way through the dangerous high country. And they actually found those caches, despite the heavy snow. For realz.

SPOILERS AHEAD: after the kids get to the ranch and everyone's safe (except Dad's wife who didn't believe in carrying guns, so the baddies knocked her off in the first chapter), there's all kinds of kerfuffles in the community over them having lots of food stashed away and it should be shared with everyone else who wasn't smart enough to stash away. That all leads to a big stand off and our 'hero' packs up his guns and thus ensues some big shoot-em-up. Why he would fire on his neighbors and not negotiate? Dunno, but even worse afterwards our 'hero' is judge, jury and executioner over a female government employee that he resented over the whole thing and ----------->>>>real spoiler---->>>he strung her up on his rope and hung her.

END SPOILERS.

Isn't he special? Not. Now to the writing itself, I'll quote some text and make comments so you can decide for yourself. Sarcasm font is on, folks.

"...like L.A., civil unrest was starting to break out there as well. To avoid that, I had chosen to take I-40 and circle around through Flagstaff. From there I would go north staying on Highway 89 which passed through Page, crossing the Colorado River at the Glen Canyon Dam. From Page, the ranch was less than an hour and a half away."

First person narrative 101 as taught by EL James, and that's not a compliment. And there's even a footnote somewhere to tell the ignorant reader that most places in the book really exist. Like the Grand Canyon. Good to know that's a real place (sarcasm font is on folks).

"Beneath my camo jacket I had on my tactical vest. The right side of the vest had six 30-round magazines for my AR. The left side had my 45 Sig Saur auto with two extra magazines above it. Along with my 45 auto, I still had my 44-40 Colt revolver strapped to my hip. I had been unable to part with it and the weight of it resting on my thigh was comforting."

TMI. Oh and did I mention that anytime any new weapon is introduced to the story there's a footnote giving the reader for more unnecessary detail on said weapon? And there's a whole bunch of weapons in this short book. Oh, and did I mention a lot of other footnotes stating 'facts' - with no backup documentation - just the author's word that those are facts. And then there was a footnote to tell we stupid readers what loaded for bear means.

Now a sample of the oh-so-heavy-handed rhetoric that litters the pages.

"What fools in Washington thought that by unilaterally disarming ourselves it would make the rest of the world like us more? There were actual fools in Washington but there were also traitors. Traitors that knew this would happen. They would not be the ones caught by surprise."

"I used to take pride in the Eagle Badge I had earned. Now I wouldn’t want anyone to know that I had been a Scout. The Boy Scout organization had violated their own Scout oath; their oath to be morally straight."

The ideal of Americanism had been twisted so as to become a mirror opposite.

I have lots more, but that's enough I think to get the point across what to expect in this book. Lastly, back to current event in Oregon, I couldn't resist highlighting a few sentences that I would call pot-meet-kettle. You be the judge.

"Living and breathing was just another way of saying, “Words mean whatever we want them to mean.”

"It was a hard and fast line in his world. If you did not earn it, if you did not pay for it, if it was not given to you, it wasn’t yours."

“We should be free to make stupid choices if we want and then be allowed to experience the full weight of those choices."

Amen to that, people who make a dumb choice should pay the consequences of their heedless actions.

Vahakyla posted:

But the military is on their side.

theflyingorc posted:

https://youtu.be/RfVbiefMdNU

This is the best one. All sovcit tasing videos flow from this one

The Crotch posted:

... Spalmed?

Branis posted:

http://bearingarms.com/lavoy-finicum-murdered-forced-oregon-police-shoot/

Good look at the shooting from a right wing source.

Annointed posted:

I would like for the FBI to prevent any shootings on the protest area. That and continue to throughly humiliate the sov cigs til the cows go home.

Grem posted:

The complaints about the ambush are my favorite part. So butthurt the FBI didn't play by their rules. The FBI isn't and never has been in the business of fair fights. No law enforcement has or should be.

Thump! posted:

lol

THEY COMPLIED AND TURNED THEIR LIGHTS OFF, NOW WE CANT SEE THEM!!!!

Crain posted:

yeah.


The "tear gas is the same as opening fire" is legitimately terrifying to me. That says, to me, that these guys have already decided to start shooting.

XMNN posted:

From context I think Mark is the FBI negotiator.

Geostomp posted:

They honestly believe that the FBI was chomping at the bit to kill them all from the start. The fact that they haven't has gotten them so confused that they're jumping at whatever shadow they see.

It shows you just how far removed they are from reality.