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Mr. Soul posted:It took me 3 books to stop mixing up tydonni and thunyeri. The latter are conans who tie shrunken heads into their hair and the former think brown folks are gross. A nansur is a native of the Empire but I got them confused with the norsirai for a long time. I still can't say wtf norsirai means though. Norsirai are obvious Norsemen. Tall, blonde and so on.
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# ¿ Feb 14, 2016 08:56 |
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# ¿ May 2, 2024 09:11 |
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Strom Cuzewon posted:Could we change the title to something less off putting? Everyone gets far too hung up on sranc spunk The Book Barn › R. Scott Bakker: Everyone gets far too hung up on sranc spunk
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# ¿ May 20, 2016 10:37 |
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Boing posted:I always wonder why people say this. None of the neuro/psychology in his books leaps out at me as being especially wrong, but I've not read anyone who digs as deep or as well into the philosophy of neuroscience or the psychological problems with freedom. Because he wrote a stand-alone novel Neuropath which is despised by all goons that know anything about neuroscience and/or psychology.
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# ¿ Jun 30, 2016 11:31 |
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General Battuta posted:Also on reread the second trilogy sucks because two of the three major POVs are incredibly boring. Achamian's thread owns though. Depends on whether you consider Sorweel a major POV. Because if you do, than we disagree. The whole "Sorweel meets world" part is handled really well and still lingers with me years after reading, and the tension stemming from Kellhus' inability to read him I found quite exciting.
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# ¿ Jun 30, 2016 16:34 |
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General Battuta posted:I did like that scene! That scene was cool. I find most of his perspective really dull, though, and I think that's coming off the first trilogy, where we had: That's all right, I miss Cnaiür too But I have to keep pumping myself for the sequels, now that they have a future.
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# ¿ Jun 30, 2016 17:26 |
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I can't remember, did they start eating sranc meat in the last book, or is it something new?
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# ¿ Jul 7, 2016 13:06 |
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Darlan Flame posted:Kellhus gives the order at the end of the white luck warrior and it ends basically right there. Time for a quick reread, I guess. Hope they brought some BBQ sauce.
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# ¿ Jul 7, 2016 13:28 |
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Kuiperdolin posted:Now Kindle says it's not available until loving September. Ever are men decieved. Completely unreasonable. Wait, what? I got it yesterday.
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# ¿ Jul 21, 2016 00:31 |
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I just realized Bakker is ripping off Final Fantasy VII.
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# ¿ Aug 14, 2016 12:06 |
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The Vosgian Beast posted:TIL Atman and reincarnation are Final Fantasy concepts I wasn't even aiming at that, although it fits the larger picture. I was talking about Jenova, a malicious alien entity that crash landed on the planet and got sealed off in a previous era, but now tries to gently caress with the normal planetary flow of souls/atman to further its sinister agenda, killing all life on the planet in the process. I was also joking.
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# ¿ Aug 14, 2016 22:32 |
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I hope this happens. Pubbie tears will be delicious. And cast tons of awesome British actors, please.
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# ¿ Aug 25, 2016 20:59 |
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Noam Chomsky posted:Why does he do that anyway? I can't remember... maybe the same reason we all do... If my memory isn't failing me, because he's gay for Kellhus or something.
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# ¿ Sep 9, 2016 20:56 |
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Noam Chomsky posted:Isn't everyone? You're not one of the People, so you don't count.
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# ¿ Sep 9, 2016 22:09 |
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Also, the Heron Spear appears to emit a beam to the Ëarwans, but it's actually a projectile weapon, and the beam is the afterimage of the rocket trail. Probably some kind of advanced MANPADS.
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# ¿ Oct 4, 2016 13:57 |
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Cnaiur <3 Kellhus
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# ¿ Dec 7, 2016 00:08 |
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If we're rebranding, we should go with "now with less demon seed"
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# ¿ Dec 7, 2016 20:59 |
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r. scott bakker posted:It’s been a mad couple of months, but the final draft of The Unholy Consult is out the door. Now I can only wring my hands while pretending to crack my knuckles… My seventeen year old self stands agog.
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# ¿ Mar 13, 2017 17:26 |
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Neurophage posted:Personally, I think it's ok if someone doesn't like the books and yet wants to talk about them. He doesn't want to talk about books, he wants to show how superior he is to everyone that likes them.
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# ¿ Jul 25, 2017 07:49 |
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If he has the guts to stick with this ending, I'll be a happy reader. Honestly, it's perfect.
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# ¿ Aug 12, 2017 13:33 |
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kcroy posted:I could have done with less eating dead men's cocks and then thinking about how great they tasted later. I think that was the first time I've been seriously squicked out in this series. C'mon, who doesn't like sausages?
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# ¿ Aug 13, 2017 00:08 |
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Rime posted:And rather than it fixing everything magically, it results in the absolute bad ending for everyone involved? Yes, remember the prologue? The folks setting up the Dunyain project after the first Apocalypse? The series ending with the Dunyain starting the Second Apocalypse as the pinnacle of their two thousand year project just feels right to me.
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# ¿ Aug 13, 2017 01:34 |
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kcroy posted:
The sitcom known as Always Sunny in Momemn is probably the funniest part of the series. Possibly not intentional, but the incestuos Emperor, his slutty mom and dumbass heir are so funny. I am rereading the series right now and the episode on the barge is just plain hilarious.
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# ¿ Aug 21, 2017 15:58 |
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kcroy posted:
Don't remember that one, but I just started the reread.
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# ¿ Aug 21, 2017 19:34 |
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I dunno, the ending of TUC felt a bit like Deus ex machina to me
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# ¿ Sep 30, 2017 09:57 |
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Strom Cuzewon posted:I'd say its stronger than that - the second trilogy is about how the Christian God cannot help but be mean. That any omniscient being will inherently be completely alien an unknowable. As Kelhus tells Proyas, "the God is nothing human". And, eternal damnation is so grossly out of proportion with any earthly, finite sin, then any God supporting it must be psychotically cruel and malicious. It’s not really literature, but are you familiar with Ligotti?
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# ¿ Dec 24, 2018 14:35 |
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It’s a fitting ending to the series, I don’t understand why people think there’s potential for two more books worth of plot. I do disagree that the series got progressively worse, the prose actually improved towards the end. As far as the question of whether the books were “good”, BoTL already said everything better about the misgivings and flaws of the series than I can ever hope to do. However, I still enjoyed the sense of dread Bakker manages to build and ramp up through the series. Few genre writers can keep up like that. Goon reactions to gross poo poo in the books were also a solid source of entertainment during the years, so I can’t really complain.
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# ¿ Nov 22, 2019 11:24 |
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It is pretty obvious that there was supposed to be another trilogy because Bakker clearly frames the story as a repeat of the previous apocalypse, in which the second act ended with the no-god freed and the forces of humanity in disarray. However, his publisher noped out of the series and Bakker tried to save face by starting to claim this was always supposed to be the ending. I didn’t like it as much as I took pleasure in people being riled up about it, which doesn’t cast a good light upon my character, but it is what it is. I still recommend this series in other threads out of spite.
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# ¿ Apr 27, 2020 22:04 |
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# ¿ May 2, 2024 09:11 |
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There are no good or bad readings. There is bad writing, like Bakker or Tolkien.
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# ¿ May 1, 2020 08:19 |